[SOLVED] Flash 10.2 causes lag and glitches

syms · 2011-02-09 19:04:48

Hey everyone,
after upgrading to flash 10.2 with kwin desktop effects enabled, when im watching youtube clip and try to minimize window, the minimize animation lags. Sometimes when watching flash video my mouse cursor starts to lag. One of the interesting things is that when i close the browser and open terminal in that place is see youtube controls instead of black background in terminal. I think this has something to do with hardware acceleration?
Currently i downgraded to flash 10.1 and everythings fine again.

Last edited by syms (2011-02-09 19:24:05)

Mr.Elendig · 2011-02-09 19:09:44

1. are you on 64bit?
2. did you enable the fancy new hw acceleration?
3. what gfx card do you have?
4. what driver are you using for the gfx card?

syms · 2011-02-09 19:22:37

Mr.Elendig wrote:

1. are you on 64bit?
2. did you enable the fancy new hw acceleration?
3. what gfx card do you have?
4. what driver are you using for the gfx card?

1. no, im on 32bit
2. its enabled by default?
3. geforce 9500gt
4. nvidia binary driver.
Thanks for pointing me out. I just thought shouldnt flash 10.2 finally support hardware acceleration? When i installed flash 10.2 again, i noticed pacman notes, that for hw acceleration make sure you have vdpau installed. Now its clear, hw acceleration works with nvidia. So i disabled it, and no more lag! Everythings back to normal. Just one question though why its enabled by default and why its so buggy? it makes my system freeze for 5 seconds, gives me gray boxes instead of flash content and stuff. When that stupid adobe will release something what works

wonder · 2011-02-09 19:31:17

the fancy hardware acceleration is not enabled by default. after upgrading to new new version, you have some infos about how to enable and what to do if you have problems.

syms · 2011-02-09 19:36:29

wonder wrote:

the fancy hardware acceleration is not enabled by default. after upgrading to new new version, you have some infos about how to enable and what to do if you have problems.

It was enabled by default for me. I right click on flash content, clicked settings and unchecked enable hardware acceleration.

wonder · 2011-02-09 19:48:04

that's not the fancy harwdware acceleration

syms · 2011-02-09 20:21:40

wonder wrote:

that's not the fancy harwdware acceleration

umm... but that checkbox still does something. it should enable hardware acceleration. if not then why it causes glitches and lagginess?

theringmaster · 2011-02-10 04:07:12

How does one enable the fancy hardware acceleration? I don't like to rollback as I believe in moving forward.

anonymous_user · 2011-02-10 04:08:26

"Uncomment EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=1 from /etc/adobe/mms.cfg."

flamelab · 2011-02-10 06:37:36

Guys, does nobody of your read the pacman messages after the package installation ? /surprised

litemotiv · 2011-02-10 08:56:47

To avoid confusion, i assume this hardware acceleration stuff applies only to 32bit, right?

wonder · 2011-02-10 09:03:21

litemotiv wrote:

To avoid confusion, i assume this hardware acceleration stuff applies only to 32bit, right?

and x86_64 if you use flashplugin from multilib

Korrode · 2011-02-10 13:31:35

syms wrote:

One of the interesting things is that when i close the browser and open terminal in that place is see youtube controls instead of black background in terminal.

I have the same problem.
I opened mtpaint and filled a large square with black and moved it over where the flash video was sitting on the screen and i could still see it. It happens with any black pixels. For example in PCManFM i could still see the image of the flash player only through black areas, such as the filenames, which are ofc black text.

As a quick resolution, for now i've just rolled back to 10.1

Last edited by Korrode (2011-02-10 13:32:04)

R00KIE · 2011-02-10 15:21:13

You could always try to use 'EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=0'.

Last time I looked at it, the 'EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=1' setting was meant to force enable hardware acceleration on systems where flash would not enable hardware acceleration automatically. However if flash finds that a system meets all requirement to enable hardware acceleration it will do so automatically [1]. However the checks being done were the cause of much discussion as you can see for yourself, I have no idea if the checks being done are still the same but it should be covered in the flash documentation.

[1] http://blogs.adobe.com/penguinswf/2008/ … e_gpu.html

wonder · 2011-02-10 15:33:08

@R00KIE you did understand that post is 3 years old no?

hardware video decoding is disabled by default

http://forums.adobe.com/message/3444348#3444348
http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-6079

syms · 2011-02-10 15:56:10

Korrode wrote:

syms wrote:
One of the interesting things is that when i close the browser and open terminal in that place is see youtube controls instead of black background in terminal.
I have the same problem.
I opened mtpaint and filled a large square with black and moved it over where the flash video was sitting on the screen and i could still see it. It happens with any black pixels. For example in PCManFM i could still see the image of the flash player only through black areas, such as the filenames, which are ofc black text.
As a quick resolution, for now i've just rolled back to 10.1

Well yeah, the problem is 100% identical to me. But as i said before just right click on flash content click settings and uncheck enable hardware acceleration. after that restart x server and you will be fine with 10.2

R00KIE · 2011-02-10 21:28:56

@wonder
Yes I do know that is an old post, but that doesn't mean that flawed checks aren't being done now for the new features. Also adobe is announcing that flash player now has a fancy new hardware decoding so I would have said that they would at least try to detect and enable it on supported hardware.

On the links you mention someone says it is disabled by default so I stand corrected, also shame on adobe for not at least posting a note about that, at least until they had a chance to update their admin guide document to reflect what can be tuned in flash 10.2.

Cape · 2011-02-10 22:56:25

flamelab wrote:

Guys, does nobody of your read the pacman messages after the package installation ? /surprised

[2011-02-09 19:38] starting full system upgrade
[2011-02-09 19:40] upgraded clutter (1.4.0-1 -> 1.6.2-1)
[2011-02-09 19:40] upgraded flashplugin (10.1.102.65-1 -> 10.2.152.27-1)
[2011-02-09 19:40] upgraded libvdpau (0.4-1 -> 0.4.1-1)

What message?

Mr.Elendig · 2011-02-14 15:48:02

Cape wrote:

flamelab wrote:
Guys, does nobody of your read the pacman messages after the package installation ? /surprised
[2011-02-09 19:38] starting full system upgrade
[2011-02-09 19:40] upgraded clutter (1.4.0-1 -> 1.6.2-1)
[2011-02-09 19:40] upgraded flashplugin (10.1.102.65-1 -> 10.2.152.27-1)
[2011-02-09 19:40] upgraded libvdpau (0.4-1 -> 0.4.1-1)
What message?

http://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/ … in.install

Ramses de Norre · 2011-02-14 16:26:00

[2011-02-09 23:58] upgraded flashplugin (10.1.102.65-1 -> 10.2.152.27-1)
[2011-02-09 23:58] upgraded libedit (20090923_3.0-1 -> 20100424_3.0-1)
[2011-02-09 23:58] upgraded libpurple (2.7.9-1 -> 2.7.10-1)
[2011-02-09 23:58] upgraded libvdpau (0.4-1 -> 0.4.1-1)

although

vercmp 10.1.102.65-1 10.2.152.27-1              [ramses@arachne]/tmp/clyde-ramses/clyde-git/clyde-git
-1

So clearly something went wrong...

wonder · 2011-02-14 16:40:29

yeah, me being stupid. There isn't any install=flashplugin.install in PKGBUILD!!!!

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