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#1 2011-03-05 17:18:44

ScottWilson1990
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Flashplugin 10.2.152.27-2 Crashes Constantly

Hello all,

I've recently (within the past 2 - 3 days) started having a problem with the flashplugin crashing constantly when watching YouTube videos (not sure about other sites as I can't think of any that use flash video player). If you click on a video, it says something along the lines of "flashplugin has crashed" and you have to keep refreshing the page until it starts working again.

I am using Namoroka (Firefox) version 3.6.15-1, flashplugin 10.2.152.27-2.

The strange thing is, this issue doesn't appear to have started following any specific updates, it just seems to have randomly started occurring.

Looking back at my pacman log, I haven't updated since 28/02/2011 and within that update, there wasn't any firefox or flashplugin updates. The crash also didn't start happening immediately after that update (I rebooted after the system upgrade to allow changes to take effect), they have only started happening since about 2-3 days ago.

The last flash update in my logs was on: 17/02/2011 which was version 10.1.102.65-1 up to 10.2.152.27-2.
The last firefox update in my logs was on: 26/12/2010 which was version 3.6.12-1 up to 3.6.13-1.

I have upgraded today (05/03/2011) and there has been a new firefox release which is 3.6.15-1 but obviously this isn't causing the problem as the crashes started happening before today.

I downgraded the flashplugin from 10.2.152.27-2 back to 10.1.85.3-1 and this has instantly solved the problem and seems a lot more stable.

It is not only me who has had this problem (therefore ruling out hardware issues), my brother has also had the same problem start happening on his Eepc running Arch. He has also downgraded to flash 10.1.85.3-1 and this rectifies the problem.


Should I file a bug report on this? has anyone else had similar problems?


Cheers,
Scott.

Last edited by ScottWilson1990 (2011-03-05 17:19:49)


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#2 2011-03-05 17:34:45

stlarch
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Re: Flashplugin 10.2.152.27-2 Crashes Constantly

I believe it's a problem with youtube.

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#3 2011-03-05 17:45:37

karol
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Re: Flashplugin 10.2.152.27-2 Crashes Constantly

ScottWilson1990 wrote:

Should I file a bug report on this? has anyone else had similar problems?

You should search the forums before posting. Loads of people have similar problem.
Try https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 34#p899434

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#4 2011-03-05 18:10:39

ScottWilson1990
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Re: Flashplugin 10.2.152.27-2 Crashes Constantly

Hi Karol...

From what I can see its a completely unrelated issue. Yes it relates to flash player... so do a lot of posts both within this forum and within google from what I have read, but we dont get the grey screen in place of the video, the pixelated videos, the monochrome videos like what people talk about in the thread you pasted.

We simply get a "flash plugin crashed" error.

Sometimes its easier to jump to conclusions and post unhelpful snotty replies than actually reading the issue that people are having.


Thanks for your reply Stlarch, I will continue using the rolled back version of flashplugin for a while and see if YouTube manage to resolve the issue.


Scott.

Last edited by ScottWilson1990 (2011-03-05 18:12:58)


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#5 2011-03-05 18:18:38

karol
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Re: Flashplugin 10.2.152.27-2 Crashes Constantly

Have you tried disabling the hardware acceleration? Did it work? It did work with my problem i.e. flashplugin crushing all the time.
Can you view youtube videos when they're embedded on other sites?

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#6 2011-03-05 22:07:29

ScottWilson1990
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Re: Flashplugin 10.2.152.27-2 Crashes Constantly

Hi Karol,

I did try disabling hardware acceleration this morning after reading posts from a google search. But when I right clicked the container and tried to click on 'settings' it was greyed out, so I just assumed that linux didnt allow you to change hardware acceleration settings, because the posts I read were all related to mac and windows OS.

I've just right clicked a video now and the settings option is no longer greyed out. I have managed to turn off hardware acceleration and it does appear to have stopped the flashplugin crashing using version 10.2.152.27-2. However, on some videos the settings is once again greyed out. I don't understand why this is the case on some but not others.

Sorry for my previous comment to you, but I find comments like what you posted a little annoying, especially when the symptoms I described weren't really related to the ones in the link you pasted (as I said before no monochrome videos, no problems with the container loading, no quality problems). You could have just sent your last post in the first place and I would've been able to explain the issue I was having.


Thanks for your help though, disabling hardware acceleration seems to have fixed the issue.
Scott.


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#7 2011-03-05 22:32:29

karol
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Re: Flashplugin 10.2.152.27-2 Crashes Constantly

I didn't mean to annoy you, you provided lots of info in your first post but you didn't write "I've tried X and Y as suggested in this and this post and it didn't work / the option to disable hardware acceleration was greyed out" so I assumed you didn't search / didn't try it.

ScottWilson1990 wrote:

You could have just sent your last post in the first place and I would've been able to explain the issue I was having.

I linked to a specific post with a fix, although (as I pointed out in the next post in that thread) it doesn't work for everyone.

I think you're right that I should have written "This worked for me." instead of "You should search the forums before posting", sorry for the tone and the confusion I caused.
It's true that there's a bunch of different symptoms, and flashplugin explicitly crashing is only one of them - as woddfellow2 posted.

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#8 2011-03-06 10:12:55

perseus
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Re: Flashplugin 10.2.152.27-2 Crashes Constantly

Just confirming that I have exactly the same issues as Scott.  Unlike him, I have not yet found a flash video on youtube on which the flash settings are not greyed out.  I have found a couple of other flash videos online where they are not greyed, but when the settings window comes up it is frozen at the first tab, and no changes can be made.  The crashing issue does not seem to be the fault of youtube alone, because the plugin never crashes under Opera (the flash settings are still greyed out though).

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#9 2011-03-06 11:53:10

JokerBoy
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Re: Flashplugin 10.2.152.27-2 Crashes Constantly

anyone could try with this settings? thanks.

EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=1
OverrideGPUValidation=1
WindowlessDisable=1

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#10 2011-03-06 14:05:58

ScottWilson1990
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Re: Flashplugin 10.2.152.27-2 Crashes Constantly

Karol, it's ok I over reacted a little bit, at least its working now and I thank you lots for you help and input big_smile.

Perseus, I have just tried searching for a video which would allow me to access the settings menu again. After going through about 20 videos I haven't found a single one...

I have just downgraded flashplugin back to 10.1.85.3-1, restarted firefox and it is now allowing me to access the settings menu. If you try downgrading your flashplugin back to the version I just stated and then try accessing the menu, turn off hardware acceleration then upgrade back to 10.2.152.27-2, it should keep the setting and hopefully fix the issue for you, as it has done for me... let us know how you get on. (EDIT : Just as a note, this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udVYGHHt … re=related allowed me to access the menu, but im sure its nothing to do with the specific videos).

JokerBoy, may seem like a stupid question, but where do you input these settings?


Thanks again,
Scott.

Last edited by ScottWilson1990 (2011-03-06 14:08:33)


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#11 2011-03-06 14:11:02

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Re: Flashplugin 10.2.152.27-2 Crashes Constantly

/etc/adobe/mms.cfg

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#12 2011-03-06 15:27:50

karol
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Re: Flashplugin 10.2.152.27-2 Crashes Constantly

perseus wrote:

Just confirming that I have exactly the same issues as Scott.  Unlike him, I have not yet found a flash video on youtube on which the flash settings are not greyed out.  I have found a couple of other flash videos online where they are not greyed, but when the settings window comes up it is frozen at the first tab, and no changes can be made.  The crashing issue does not seem to be the fault of youtube alone, because the plugin never crashes under Opera (the flash settings are still greyed out though).

Have you tried https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 34#p899434 ? I had a similar problem, but 'Settings' on http://www.youtube.com/swf_test.html isn't greyed out, unlike the regular videos, so I could disable hw accel.

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#13 2011-03-06 15:30:22

karol
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Re: Flashplugin 10.2.152.27-2 Crashes Constantly

@ JokerBoy
Do I need to restart firefox, restart X ...?

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#14 2011-03-06 15:36:01

JokerBoy
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Re: Flashplugin 10.2.152.27-2 Crashes Constantly

just firefox

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#15 2011-03-06 16:01:28

karol
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Re: Flashplugin 10.2.152.27-2 Crashes Constantly

JokerBoy wrote:

just firefox

I've got hw accel disabled via the 'Settings' and the options you wanted to try out don't seem to be doing anything.
If I enable hw accel via the 'Settings', the videos on YT don't work, regardless what my /etc/adobe/mms.cfg looks like.

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#16 2011-03-06 21:44:34

perseus
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Re: Flashplugin 10.2.152.27-2 Crashes Constantly

Thanks to all for your helpful comments. I tried Karol's suggestion of http://www.youtube.com/swf_test.html, but at first I could not make any changes because (as I reported previously), the settings window was frozen.  I found, however, that if I expanded that video to full screen,  I could uncheck the hardware acceleration box.  This has fixed the problem for me. smile

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#17 2011-03-07 20:47:01

Kaso_Da_Zmok
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Re: Flashplugin 10.2.152.27-2 Crashes Constantly

i had similar issue with flash and youtube.
i have Dell E6400 laptop with nouveau
Installed ArchBang 2011.02 32bit akk good with flash.
So i did full update.
and since then the flash video only on youtube was totally slow like 2 FPS. or crashes of flash plugin
so i tried with different flash video side and was OK on liveleak.
i have tried to disable the HW acceleration but settings on youtube flash was grayed out.
But was accessible trough liveleak.com flash video. So i disabled that HW acceleration.
restart of google chrome.
and since then the video work perfect also fullscreen. no crashes.
the finny thing is that settings of flash is now grayed out everywhere.

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#18 2011-03-08 06:52:52

Kaso_Da_Zmok
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Re: Flashplugin 10.2.152.27-2 Crashes Constantly

problem returned after reboot.
maybe because i have removed the mms.cfg file thinking it was not doing anything.
So after reboot the dumb youtube was again on 1 FPS in firefox or chrome while liveleak was fine.
Right click in video on showed settings as grayed out and i removed the mms.cfg file before the reboot.

so to fix me second time i have put this back to
/etc/adobe/mms.cfg

# Adobe player settings
AVHardwareDisable = 0
FullScreenDisable = 0
LocalFileReadDisable = 1
FileDownloadDisable = 1
FileUploadDisable = 1
LocalStorageLimit = 1
ThirdPartyStorage = 1
AssetCacheSize = 10
AutoUpdateDisable = 1
LegacyDomainMatching = 0
LocalFileLegacyAction = 0
AllowUserLocalTrust = 0
# DisableSockets = 1
OverrideGPUValidation = 1

EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=1
WindowlessDisable=1


And after this when i started the video on liveleak i was able to go to settings and disable hardware acceleration there, opening a new tab with you tube video and it is smooth as it should be also in fullscreen.  I do not understand adobe.. maybe they should go and do something else than software.

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