qtFM - Small, fast, light Qt filemanager

anonymous_user · 2011-03-08 19:47:20

Make sure you have an up-to-date mirrorlist (get a new one here) and then:

sudo pacman -Syyu
sudo pacman -S qtfm

skunktrader · 2011-03-08 19:48:55

Your mirror is probably stale. Switch to a different one and pacman -Syyu then try again
Edit: too slow

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ninian · 2011-03-08 19:55:10

I have some little queries (version 4.7-1):

1) In the Detail view, the Date Modified column is formatted like: 4 Mar 2011 22:20:56
Although of course you can sort by this column, it would be more systematic and easier to visually scan for files of a certain date if the column could be formatted: 2011-03-04 22:21 (I don't worry about the seconds!). Would this be possible or is there some other way to reformat dates/times which maybe I'm overlooking?

2) In the directory tree, my directories are ordered: Desktop, Documents, Dropbox, bin, cache, dev ...
But in the file list (ordered by Name), my directories are ordered: bin, cache, Desktop, dev, Documents, Dropbox ...
Is there any particular reason for this inconsistency? I should mention that in my /etc/profile I have:
export LC_ALL=
export LC_COLLATE="C"

3) Is there any chance that the target of a symbolic link could be displayed in the status line, like: linkname -> /home/user/actualdirectory

4) Could file Properties include a check box for applying permissions recursively down through any subdirectories?

Thanks in advance for considering these.

Last edited by ninian (2011-03-08 20:03:17)

qrrbrrbirlbel81 · 2011-03-08 20:17:04

@anon and skunk, "thanks that was totally it!!!"

Kosava · 2011-03-09 00:48:25

Does is possible to add option for delating directly with shift+del like on other file manager ?

karabaja4 · 2011-03-09 00:53:56

Kosava wrote:

Does is possible to add option for delating directly with shift+del like on other file manager ?

There's an option in qtfm.conf:

confirmDelete=false

if it's set to false qtfm won't ask you for confirmation when deleting files.

If you wan't to keep the confirmation on del and have shift+del delete instantly, make custom action 'Destroy' or something, make it do 'rm -rf %f', and bind that action to shift+del with keyboard shortcuts editor.

karabaja4 · 2011-03-09 00:57:59

ninian wrote:

3) Is there any chance that the target of a symbolic link could be displayed in the status line, like: linkname -> /home/user/actualdirectory

This was a feature that was implemented so far, but it suddenly stopped working...?

anonymous_user · 2011-03-09 01:03:55

I really like the new Properties dialog box in 4.8 however using the GTK+ style (qtconfig) makes it so the frames/borders are not there.

Kosava · 2011-03-09 01:04:15

Thank you karabaja4

Wittfella · 2011-03-09 02:45:17

@ninian
1) The date in detail view column is dependent on your locale settings. For instance mine shows as "dd/mm/yy" which sorts fine.

2) Your name sorting sounds weird. It should sort directories at top, but everything is an alphabetical order like you would expect. I don't know if the 'export LC_COLLATE' affect this somehow.

3) ??? - this is already in place and works fine here.

4) I can look at this.

@qrrbrrbirlbel81
Glad you got it sorted Just mention that qmake probably didn't work when building from source because you didn't have Qt installed yet.

@anonymous_user
Is that specific to qtFM, or does GTK+ just not show frames at all. If the creators of GTK+ theme chose not to show the frames, then so be it.

karabaja4 · 2011-03-09 02:52:13

Wittfella wrote:

3) ??? - this is already in place and works fine here..

I checked this, it doesn't work anymore. Could be qt update or something? Anyway I emailed you the fix...

anonymous_user · 2011-03-09 02:54:04

I suppose its a GTK+ theme issue. The qtconfig app has a preview image and with GTK+ selected, the frames are not visible. I will see about reporting this upstream.

Wittfella · 2011-03-09 09:35:38

I couldn't help myself...just changed it again

Probably not many have tried 4.8 yet, but I added the special folders in again, where it automatically detects 'Documents, Movies, Music' etc and uses the theme icon. Remember I tried this before briefly but it was a bit messy because of differences in themes, not working for some, blah blah.

This time it was working ok, but then I had a thought! Forget trying to automatically detect the 6 or so special folders, just let the user set the icon they want.

The advantages are:
- no potential problems with non-standard themes, missing icons and other weirdness.
- you can set a custom icon for any folder you like, not just the 6 or so special ones supported by most themes.

So, here it is! You can change the icon for any folder from the properties dialog and it remembers it. Also translates across to bookmarks. ie. if you drag a customized folder to the bookmarks, it will keep the same icon.

If some folks can test it to make sure it looks good we can push it.

Cheers,
Wittfella

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Kosava · 2011-03-09 17:42:06

Thanks for option with custom icons, i can confirm it works with oxygen and faenza icons

Mazur · 2011-03-09 23:29:07

Hi, I have just moved to dwm so I have only chromium, vlc, qtcreator and this qtfm and I really like it. I was wondering if it is possible to have partitions (ntfs) mounted in this file manager? If yes then how can I do it? Cheers.

anonymous_user · 2011-03-09 23:37:45

qtFM does not handle mounting. You can mount the partition manually (mount command), use udev rules (click here) or try wrapper programs such as udiskie.

ninian · 2011-03-10 00:33:40

Wittfella wrote:

1) The date in detail view column is dependent on your locale settings. For instance mine shows as "dd/mm/yy" which sorts fine.
2) Your name sorting sounds weird. It should sort directories at top, but everything is an alphabetical order like you would expect. I don't know if the 'export LC_COLLATE' affect this somehow.
3) ??? - this is already in place and works fine here.
4) I can look at this.

Thanks for your reply; here are some more comments and curiosities:

1) I'm using the en_GB locale (/usr/share/i18n/locales/en_GB) which specifies:
d_fmt "<U0025><U0064><U002F><U0025><U006D><U002F><U0025><U0079>"
which translates to: %d/%m/%y, for example 10/03/11
t_fmt "<U0025><U0054>"
which translates to: %T (hh:mm:ss), for example: 13:23:17
So I'm confused as to where qtfm gets its date format from (it displays as, for example: 3 Mar 2011); but time seems okay!

2) It's not a big problem, but I know I needed the LC_COLLATE to ensure that EmelFM2 sorted its lists correctly (in my example, it orders the directories as: Desktop, Documents, Dropbox, bin, cache, dev ...)

3) Definitely not working here (fully updated Arch system today); checked links to both files and directories

4) That would be great!

karabaja4 · 2011-03-10 00:34:55

ninian wrote:

3) Definitely not working here (fully updated Arch system today); checked links to both files and directories

Build the 4.8 again from source, this is fixed...

Wittfella · 2011-03-10 02:48:07

Hello Ninian,

I just checked my locale, it does appear to be using the d_fmt line for me also, which is correct %d/%m/%y. I can only think for you to check the output of the 'locale' command. Specifically check LC_ALL and that it is blank or the same as the locale you want. I think if LC_ALL is not blank it overrides all the individual ones.

This might also be part of your alphabetical sorting problem. For reference my LC_COLLATE is set to the same as all the others - en_AU.UTF-8.

Wittfella · 2011-03-10 03:06:16

Hello Brad if your watching!

4.8 seems good to go if you want to grab it.

Cheers,
Wittfella

cesura · 2011-03-10 03:13:48

Wittfella wrote:

Hello Brad if your watching!
4.8 seems good to go if you want to grab it.
Cheers,
Wittfella

¡Por supuesto! I'll get right on it.

ninian · 2011-03-10 20:25:13

Wittfella wrote:

I just checked my locale, it does appear to be using the d_fmt line for me also, which is correct %d/%m/%y. I can only think for you to check the output of the 'locale' command. Specifically check LC_ALL and that it is blank or the same as the locale you want. I think if LC_ALL is not blank it overrides all the individual ones.
This might also be part of your alphabetical sorting problem. For reference my LC_COLLATE is set to the same as all the others - en_AU.UTF-8.

Many thanks for your suggestions. I've now installed qtfm 4.8-2 and made some progress with them.
When I remove these lines from /etc/profile:
export LC_ALL=
export LC_COLLATE="C"
dates/times now display more happily in qtfm as: dd/mm/yyyy hh:mm
However, in the directory tree, my directories are still ordered: Desktop, Documents, Dropbox, bin, cache, dev ...
and in the file list (ordered by Name), my directories are still ordered: bin, cache, Desktop, dev, Documents, Dropbox ...
This really isn't much of a problem; I just prefer the capital letters being sorted first (often it's a preference which can be set in file managers).

Also, I misunderstood how the targets of symbolic links are shown. I thought they would be displayed in the status line when I hovered over the filename; I did not realize that you have to actually select the file to show the link target.

Now I'm a little curious as to why qtfm seems to take a relatively (!) fair while to load; is much of this delay caused by interpreting the xdg, mime-type and desktop file stuff? It's just that I ignore it completely (there are far too many programs making unwanted associations with filetypes for my liking) and have my own file association script. I'd love to just switch the whole xdg overhead off!

But thanks again for what you've created with qtfm.

Added later, regarding possible inconsistencies or bugs:
1) With Custom Actions, I don't seem to be able to override the xdg-open default for all files (Filetype '*'). I've set my own custom open action with text 'Open' but still the xdg-open default persists when I double-click on the file or right-click->Open. However, it seems to work if you specify a particular filetype. (See last paragraph above as to why I would want to do this.)
2) Trying to sort by clicking on the Owner column in Detail View doesn't seem to produce any meaningful order, in either direction. Since the permissions seem to be combined in the same field with the owner and group, what would we expect to happen?!

Last edited by ninian (2011-03-10 22:44:48)

Wittfella · 2011-03-11 03:40:19

@Ninian
Glad the date thing is sorted My apologies about the name sorting, I didn't read your post closely enough and pick up you are referring specifically to differences with capitalisation, I was only looking alphabetically. You are correct, the tree and detail seem to handle capitalisation differently. I don't know why that is yet, I will look into it.

ninian wrote:

Now I'm a little curious as to why qtfm seems to take a relatively (!) fair while to load;

This makes me very sad and troubles me greatly . This is my number one obsession with qtfm, speed, both startup and in use. It is probably the main reason I started it. It is what I focus on most. Lots of people make feature requests for things to be added to qtfm and my first criteria is speed. If I can add a popular feature with basically no impact I do (usually), if its going to impact speed I am very selective. I don't want qtfm to become bloated with every feature under the sun. I want it to be small, fast and do what it does well.

I would like to know why the startup is slow for you, because for me its blazing fast! For instance on my good machine (i5) even running in Virtualbox, it starts basically instantly, literally before my finger leaves the mouse button. Even on my slow netbook, it's maybe half second delay.

There is no xdg overhead. The only time its involved is when you 'Open' something, it just hands it off to xdg-open to do its thing. I only recently added the custom action override because xdg-open seems to be playing up lately and not detecting filetypes properly. (eg. mp3's are detected as octet-stream). mime-icons are all cached also.

The only thing I can see that would cause obvious delay to startup is to do with thumbnails. When you browse around in icon mode it has to load thumbnails, which is a bit expensive, so after the first time it caches them very efficiently. Next time you go to the same folder it loads them fast. It only loads the thumb cache when its needed. So if you stay in list or detail mode, it never gets loaded.

So if you stay in icon mode, and have pics in your home (startup) directory it has to load the thumb cache immediately. If the cache gets quite large I can see this possibly affecting startup speed. You could test this easily by staying in list view, and close/open qtfm, is there a difference? Maybe delete your thumb.cache file if it has become quite large. Second thought, just delete all the *.cache files.

If this is not your problem, then I am intrigued why it is slow to start. Does anybody else feel it is slow? From a relative perspective, I think it is faster the pcmanfm for instance, and certainly much faster the thunar on my systems.

ninian wrote:

With Custom Actions, I don't seem to be able to override the xdg-open default for all files (Filetype '*')

Correct, its suffix specific. It makes no sense on the * type. (Well it does for you, if you have customised your own xdg type opener maybe, but most folk don't have that).

Regards,
Wittfella

anonymous_user · 2011-03-11 05:32:22

Wittfella wrote:

I only recently added the custom action override because xdg-open seems to be playing up lately and not detecting filetypes properly.

What feature is this "custom action override"? I know qtfm has custom actions but I don't if you're referring to that or something else.

Wittfella · 2011-03-11 06:50:49

Hey anonymous, check the readme for details, but in summary:

If you make a custom action and set the 'Text' to 'Open', it will use this action as the default for right-click->open and double click open, instead of handing off to xdg.

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