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#26 2010-11-26 16:42:34

ejmarkow
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Re: [SOLVED] Buggy 'Tabs' Behavior in Firefox & Pidgin Since Xorg Upgrade

Performed the following upgrade today:

xf86-input-evdev: (2.4.0-2 => 2.5.0-1)
xf86-input-joystick: (1.5.0-2 => 1.5.0-3)
xf86-input-keyboard: (1.4.0-2 => 1.4.0-3)
xf86-input-synaptics: (1.2.2-2 => 1.3.0-2)
xf86-video-fbdev: (0.4.2-1 => 0.4.2-2)
xf86-video-intel: (2.12.0-1 => 2.13.0-4)
xf86-video-vesa: (2.3.0-2 => 2.3.0-3)
xorg-server: (1.8.1.902-1 => 1.9.2-2)
xorg-server-common 1.9.2-2

And once again, the mentioned issue still persists. As before, cursor movement is slightly choppy and lagging, this holds true for original issue reported as well. Downgraded once again (same downgrade) and problem goes away. Bug report remains with this additional info.

Last edited by ejmarkow (2010-11-26 21:27:05)

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#27 2011-03-11 20:27:44

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Re: [SOLVED] Buggy 'Tabs' Behavior in Firefox & Pidgin Since Xorg Upgrade

After upgrading today, the bugs are still here and the mentioned issue still persists. As before, cursor movement is slightly choppy and lagging, this holds true for original issue reported as well (Tabs randomly closing on Firefox and Pidgin when clicking on them). Reverting back to older packages resolved everything, and all the problems go away. Bug report remains with this additional info.

Performed the following upgrade today to test out:

xf86-input-evdev: package upgrade (2.4.0-2 => 2.6.0-1)
xf86-input-joystick: package upgrade (1.5.0-2 => 1.5.0-3)
xf86-input-keyboard: package upgrade (1.4.0-2 => 1.4.0-3)
xf86-input-synaptics: package upgrade (1.2.2-2 => 1.3.0-2)
xf86-video-fbdev: package upgrade (0.4.2-1 => 0.4.2-2)
xf86-video-intel: package upgrade (2.12.0-1 => 2.14.0-2)
xf86-video-vesa: package upgrade (2.3.0-2 => 2.3.0-3)
xorg-server: package upgrade (1.8.1.902-1 => 1.9.4-1)
xorg-server-common: package upgrade (1.9.4-1)

Last edited by ejmarkow (2011-03-12 09:54:13)

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#28 2011-04-02 22:35:59

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Re: [SOLVED] Buggy 'Tabs' Behavior in Firefox & Pidgin Since Xorg Upgrade

Thanks your posts have helped me workaround this issue.  I think there is enough unusual behavior besides the tabs to characterize this as an xorg touchpad problem.

I experienced the same problem with Chrome's tabs as well, so it definitely seems like the single tap behavior is sometimes being misinterpreted as a middle button not as single left click.

Also, using the pointer with the touchpad is very slow, making the pointer feel loggy.

I was originally using xfce but in another post someone mentioned changing to another desktop env fixed it, so I tried lxde (which feels snappier to me) but that hasn't fixed it.

Anyways, I took your list of downgraded packages and worked with it.  For me, I need to downgrade to these packages in order to get a working touchpad:

xf86-input-evdev-2.4.0-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
xf86-input-synaptics-1.2.2-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
xf86-video-vesa-2.3.0-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
xf86-video-ati-6.13.1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
xorg-server-1.8.1.902-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz

Have you raised a bug with the xorg folk?

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#29 2011-04-12 00:29:47

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Re: [SOLVED] Buggy 'Tabs' Behavior in Firefox & Pidgin Since Xorg Upgrade

I updated today and the touchpad's single taps are fixed and the pointer is responsive again.

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#30 2011-04-13 08:18:33

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Re: [SOLVED] Buggy 'Tabs' Behavior in Firefox & Pidgin Since Xorg Upgrade

@bitsandbytes:   I've just tested the latest upgrades (details below) today and still see the same issue. It has not been fixed. With my synaptics touchpad, movement is still "slightly" lagging and choppy, and not as responsive as it was prior to the upgrade. Also, the "tabs" issue still exists. Try this: start Firefox 4, open up about 3 or 4 tabs, and then click on the right most tab, then the left most tab...repeat this several times, and you'll notice that eventually (at random intervals), a tab (or more) will unexpectedly disappear without you actually closing it.

IMO, there is no optimal gain or improvement with these latest upgrades.

xf86-input-evdev: package upgrade (2.4.0-2 => 2.6.0-3)
xf86-input-joystick: package upgrade (1.5.0-2 => 1.5.99_git20110318-1)
xf86-input-keyboard: package upgrade (1.4.0-2 => 1.6.0-2)
xf86-input-synaptics: package upgrade (1.2.2-2 => 1.4.0-2)
xf86-video-fbdev: package upgrade (0.4.2-1 => 0.4.2-4)
xf86-video-intel: package upgrade (2.12.0-1 => 2.14.903-1)
xf86-video-vesa: package upgrade (2.3.0-2 => 2.3.0-5)
xorg-server: package upgrade (1.8.1.902-1 => 1.10.0.902-1)
xorg-server-common: package upgrade (1.10.0.902-1)

I'm downgrading once again for a peace of mind. A bug report has been filed (by me) a while ago with the Arch developers (see the post on this thread), but not with Xorg.

Last edited by ejmarkow (2011-05-10 10:03:26)

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#31 2011-05-11 02:02:07

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Re: [SOLVED] Buggy 'Tabs' Behavior in Firefox & Pidgin Since Xorg Upgrade

I tested the following Xorg upgrades today and using the defaults, the same issues remain: (1) Choppy and lagging cursor, (2) Randomly closing tabs in both Firefox 4 and Pidgin, and (3) Self copying / pasting of text when navigating the cursor using the synaptics touchpad:

xf86-input-evdev: upgrade (2.4.0-2 => 2.6.0-3)
xf86-input-joystick: upgrade (1.5.0-2 => 1.6.0-1)
xf86-input-keyboard: upgrade (1.4.0-2 => 1.6.0-2)
xf86-input-synaptics: upgrade (1.2.2-2 => 1.4.0-2)
xf86-video-fbdev: upgrade (0.4.2-1 => 0.4.2-4)
xf86-video-intel: upgrade (2.12.0-1 => 2.15.0-1)
xf86-video-vesa: upgrade (2.3.0-2 => 2.3.0-5)
xorg-server-common: upgrade (1.10.1-1)
xorg-server: upgrade (1.8.1.902-1 => 1.10.1-1)

However, there is a happy ending to this story after all. Long suspecting the synaptics driver was the culprit, I began a task of comparing the default properties / parameter values of both drivers using the 'synclient -l' command (shown in attached image below using the "diff' command). Then, going by trial and error, using all and gradually eliminating, one by one, each of the original driver property parameters in the "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-synaptics.conf" file, I finally found the problem item in the DEFAULT "EmulateTwoFingerMinZ" property parameter value. My working synaptics driver (1.2.2-2) had a default value of "280", while the newer driver (1.4.0-2) uses "29". Here is my correcting "10-synaptics.conf" file:

/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-synaptics.conf:

Section "InputClass"
        Identifier "touchpad catchall"
        Driver "synaptics"
        MatchIsTouchpad "on"
        MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/event*"
        Option "TapButton1" "1"
        Option "TapButton2" "2"
        Option "TapButton3" "3"

    # Added Manually:

        Option "EmulateTwoFingerMinZ" "280"

EndSection

I can only say, it's a relief with sweet results. Using my synaptics touchpad now gives me swift and unsticky movement, with no randomly closing tabs [in Firefox or Pidgin] and no irregular side effects. I'm happy. I'll place this tip in the synaptics wiki page. This thread is now marked "SOLVED"!


Difference Between Synaptic Drivers

Last edited by ejmarkow (2011-05-12 07:57:07)

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