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jaco

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From: Toulouse, France

Registered: 2011-03-17

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Kernel 2.6.38 and NVidia issues

Hi,

The last pacman -Syu fails with the following message:

% sudo pacman -Syu
(...)
Résolution des dépendances...
Recherche des conflits possibles entre paquets...
Erreur: la préparation de la transaction a échoué (la satisfaction des dépendances a échoué)
:: nvidia: requiert kernel26<2.6.38

I understand there is a problem with my nvdia package: since the last one (.270) doesn't work on my laptop, i'm using the previous one (.260.19.44-1) :

% pacman -Qi nvidia 
Nom                   : nvidia
Version               : 260.19.44-1
URL                   : http://www.nvidia.com/
Licences              : custom
Groupes               : --
Fournit               : --
Dépend de             : kernel26>=2.6.37  kernel26<2.6.38
                        nvidia-utils=260.19.44
(...)

Is there a solution to solve this problem (if not, i'm ready to switch to nouveau...).

Last edited by jaco (2011-04-11 10:10:58)

wonder

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Re: Kernel 2.6.38 and NVidia issues

you have to deal with it. recompile nvidia 260.19.44 against 2.6.38

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SanskritFritz

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Re: Kernel 2.6.38 and NVidia issues

Jaco, I have the same problem with nvidia. Is there an upstream bugreport somewhere you know about?

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Awebb

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Re: Kernel 2.6.38 and NVidia issues

1. Make sure you still have the package you used to install 260.x (maybe in the package cache of pacman).
2. Uninstall nvidia.
3. Update the kernel.
4. Install the package you collected from your cache earlier.
5. Be a happy person.

Dogmeat

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Re: Kernel 2.6.38 and NVidia issues

@Awebb: Most likely it won't work because nvidia 260.19.44 was compiled against an older kernel (2.6.37 or so).

ngoonee

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Re: Kernel 2.6.38 and NVidia issues

@Awebb: Most likely it won't work because nvidia 260.19.44 was compiled against an older kernel (2.6.37 or so).

It will not work, for sure. The dependency field will not allow him to install it.

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jaco

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Re: Kernel 2.6.38 and NVidia issues

Well... I think i'll have to compile the module as nouveau does not fit the bill with gnome3...
As i'm new to arch, i've first have to understand how to create a new package for nvidia 260 compatible with a 2.6.38 kernel.

JokerBoy

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Re: Kernel 2.6.38 and NVidia issues

nvidia-260.19.44-1.src.tar.gz
and nvidia-utils if you'll need them: nvidia-utils-260.19.44-1.src.tar.gz

`makepkg -sci`

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ngoonee

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Re: Kernel 2.6.38 and NVidia issues

nvidia-260.19.44-1.src.tar.gz
and nvidia-utils if you'll need them: nvidia-utils-260.19.44-1.src.tar.gz

`makepkg -sci`

He'd still have the same problem if the depends line is not edited....

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jaco

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Re: Kernel 2.6.38 and NVidia issues

So...

I think i've found a workaround... I've switched to [testing] (i have to do so to follow Gnome3, anyway) and, Tataaaa, it works with Nouveau.

The behaviour of the desktop is a bit different, but i don't know if it's related to the new Gnome3 package, to Nouveau or to something else : now, it seems there is a sort of "graphic transition" when i open a new window...  (kind of "fading"...).

Anyway, i think i'll not bother to fight to build a Nvidia 260 module for 2.38 kernel...

[Edit: well, i think i still have to build a Nvidia module  as Nouveau is too buggy with Gnome3: slowness of window motions, and fonts garbled)]

Last edited by jaco (2011-04-11 19:20:13)

tarakbumba

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Re: Kernel 2.6.38 and NVidia issues

If you prefer, you can use dkms-nvidia package from AUR to avoid kernel dependency issues. Just modify PKGBUILD and dkms-install to fit with 260.xx version. This package will build nvidia module via dkms automatically on every installed kernel when booting. Though it is not KISS way, i suppose...

Last edited by tarakbumba (2011-04-12 10:22:49)

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JokerBoy

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Re: Kernel 2.6.38 and NVidia issues

nvidia-260.19.44-1.src.tar.gz
and nvidia-utils if you'll need them: nvidia-utils-260.19.44-1.src.tar.gz

`makepkg -sci`

He'd still have the same problem if the depends line is not edited....

this PKGBUILD's are for 2.6.38-ARCH, but now he must downgrade the xorg-server too. nvidia 260.x doesn't support xorg-server 1.10.

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ddazzy

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Re: Kernel 2.6.38 and NVidia issues

Some problem here, "fixed" it with ignoring the following packages for updates
in my pacman.conf:

IgnorePkg   =  kernel26 kernel26-headers nvidia nvidia-utils xorg-server-common xf86-input-evdev xorg-server xf86-input-keyboard xf86-input-mouse xf86-input-synaptics xf86-video-vesa 

so the result during an update is the following:

warning: kernel26: ignoring package upgrade (2.6.37.5-1 => 2.6.38.2-1)
warning: kernel26-headers: ignoring package upgrade (2.6.37.5-1 => 2.6.38.2-1)
warning: nvidia: ignoring package upgrade (260.19.44-1 => 270.41.03-1)
warning: nvidia-utils: ignoring package upgrade (260.19.44-1 => 270.41.03-1)
warning: xf86-input-evdev: ignoring package upgrade (2.6.0-2 => 2.6.0-3)
warning: xf86-input-keyboard: ignoring package upgrade (1.6.0-1 => 1.6.0-2)
warning: xf86-input-mouse: ignoring package upgrade (1.7.0-1 => 1.7.0-2)
warning: xf86-input-synaptics: ignoring package upgrade (1.4.0-1 => 1.4.0-2)
warning: xf86-video-vesa: ignoring package upgrade (2.3.0-4 => 2.3.0-5)
warning: xorg-server: ignoring package upgrade (1.9.4.901-1 => 1.10.0.902-1)
warning: xorg-server-common: ignoring package upgrade (1.9.4.901-1 => 1.10.0.902-1)

And so, everything keeps working, hope in the future, the developers of these packages
will fix that issue.

ngoonee

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Re: Kernel 2.6.38 and NVidia issues

And so, everything keeps working, hope in the future, the developers of these packages
will fix that issue.

The issue is not with the packages, rather with nvidia.

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Huub900

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Re: Kernel 2.6.38 and NVidia issues

@jaco, @SanskritFritz: What are your problems with nvidia package?

SanskritFritz

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Re: Kernel 2.6.38 and NVidia issues

@jaco, @SanskritFritz: What are your problems with nvidia package?

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=197908

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brebs

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Re: Kernel 2.6.38 and NVidia issues

You should have posted in nvidia's linux forum.

SanskritFritz

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Re: Kernel 2.6.38 and NVidia issues

You should have posted in nvidia's linux forum.

Thanks, brebs, I was looking for that forum, but could not find it. I now even found a thread where my problem is described:
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=160115

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