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#76 2011-05-14 16:51:08

Rupp
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Re: Intel 82845G and xorg 1.8 - anyone got it working?

karol wrote:
Rupp wrote:

Appears to be quicker than the old packages

You mean the performance? Oh yes, new pacakges + that old Intel drivers were doing very well.

Yeah that is what I mean. Performance is way better with it being updated, and using the old intel driver. That is why I don't want to give up on it.

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#77 2011-05-22 10:36:39

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Re: Intel 82845G and xorg 1.8 - anyone got it working?

Been running the latest everything but kernel26, for the past four days with no problems at all. Performance is a little better with the other packages updated. Going to upgrade to a 2.6.37 kernel. See how well it does.

┌─[Y]-[rupp[~]
└─> pacman -Q kernel26 xorg-server xf86-video-intel
kernel26 2.6.36.3-2
xorg-server 1.10.1-1
xf86-video-intel 2.15.0-1

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#78 2011-05-22 20:04:58

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Re: Intel 82845G and xorg 1.8 - anyone got it working?

I get hard hangups with a fully upgraded system and with the one you posted above the GPU hangs quite often.
Do you have some magic configs in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf or somewhere else?

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#79 2011-05-22 21:20:55

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Re: Intel 82845G and xorg 1.8 - anyone got it working?

karol wrote:

Do you have some magic configs in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf or somewhere else?

Section "Device"
    Identifier "old intel stuff"
    Driver "intel"
    Option "Shadow" "True"
    Option "DRI" "false"
EndSection

That is all I have. It is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf though.

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#80 2011-05-22 23:09:32

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Re: Intel 82845G and xorg 1.8 - anyone got it working?

Ah, for reason I have commented out 'Option "Shadow" "True"'. Now it seems to work much better. Let's see how stable it is.

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#81 2011-05-25 22:33:09

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Re: Intel 82845G and xorg 1.8 - anyone got it working?

@ karol

Been running the last "37" kernel I could find, for two and a half days now. Haven't noticed any problems. Still running the same xorg.conf as I posted previously. Full kernel number:

kernel26 2.6.37.5-1

UPDATE: Four and a half days and still no problems.

Last edited by Rupp (2011-05-27 16:23:53)

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#82 2011-05-28 20:03:57

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Re: Intel 82845G and xorg 1.8 - anyone got it working?

I'm using

[karol@black ~]$ pacman -Q kernel26 xorg-server xf86-video-intel
kernel26 2.6.38.6-2
xorg-server 1.10.1-1
xf86-video-intel 2.15.0-1

since May 24th so life's good - thanks to 'Option "Shadow" "True"' it seems.

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#83 2011-06-06 14:51:12

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Re: Intel 82845G and xorg 1.8 - anyone got it working?

Since May 28th I'm using the current packages - no problems.

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#84 2011-06-07 00:58:02

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Re: Intel 82845G and xorg 1.8 - anyone got it working?

karol wrote:

Since May 28th I'm using the current packages - no problems.

Same as you, I haven't had a problem. smile Let's hope it lasts though.

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#85 2011-06-07 02:10:03

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Re: Intel 82845G and xorg 1.8 - anyone got it working?

Using the "Shadow" option seems to work for me, too.  I'm saddened that it's come to this sad

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#86 2011-06-07 02:47:20

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Re: Intel 82845G and xorg 1.8 - anyone got it working?

centenary wrote:

Using the "Shadow" option seems to work for me, too.  I'm saddened that it's come to this sad

Yeah it is more of a work around than it is a fix, but it is better than nothing.

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#87 2011-10-27 17:23:28

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Re: Intel 82845G and xorg 1.8 - anyone got it working?

I'm running a Dell Inspiron 1100 with the updated A32 BIOS from Dell and set to 8 megs of video memory. My xorg-server is version 1.11.1.901-1 and the xf86-video-intel is version 2.16.0-1. The video chipset as provided by the output of lspci is:

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)

I followed the beginner's guide for installation and am updated as of Oct 25 (pacman -Syu). The only modification I've made (as stipulated by the beginner's guide) is the following line to /boot/grub/menu.lst (change is marked in bold):

kernel /vmlinuz-linux root=/dev/disk/by-uuid/90927245-1741-4707-a0de-68b1129029a4 ro i915.modeset=1

I run slim for login and openbox as my window manager. There are only two issues which I'm experiencing that aren't particularly a bother.

Problem - When the i915 modeset engages, sometimes the LCD display will turn off during the bootup sequence (i.e. no backlight, or at least that's what I think the problem is)

Solution - I made two keybindings in OpenBox that execute the following commands, respectively:
xrandr --output LVDS1 --auto
xrandr --output LVDS1 --off
This way I can turn the LCD on/off manually. If the screen happens to be black I just turn it off and then turn it on and it always produces the proper image, I only do this once OpenBox has loaded however. The downside of course is that sometimes I'm forced to log in blindly during the slim login sequence.

Problem - As stated before in the thread I also can't seem to get xvideo overlay to work on mplayer.

Solution - I'm forced to output directly to X11 which makes some video sequences rather choppy.

Last edited by grimpirate (2011-10-27 17:26:28)

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#88 2012-05-17 13:53:12

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Re: Intel 82845G and xorg 1.8 - anyone got it working?

Rupp wrote:
karol wrote:

Do you have some magic configs in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf or somewhere else?

Section "Device"
    Identifier "old intel stuff"
    Driver "intel"
    Option "Shadow" "True"
    Option "DRI" "false"
EndSection

That is all I have. It is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf though.

So is this still the only working solution?

What about the xf86-video-intel-old 2.12.0-1 on AUR?

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#89 2012-05-17 13:58:26

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Re: Intel 82845G and xorg 1.8 - anyone got it working?

snoxu wrote:

What about the xf86-video-intel-old 2.12.0-1 on AUR?

Does it actually compile against latest X?

There's two things: A few 8xx fixes are in kernel 3.4, and SNA supports 8xx. So kernel 3.4 and xf86-video-intel-2.19 compiled with SNA might work.

Oh, and the DRI part in that code snippet is redundant, Shadow already turns off everything, including dri.

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#90 2012-05-17 14:54:15

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Re: Intel 82845G and xorg 1.8 - anyone got it working?

Gusar wrote:
snoxu wrote:

What about the xf86-video-intel-old 2.12.0-1 on AUR?

Does it actually compile against latest X?

Not that knowlegable on the issue. Anyhow I couldn't built it and left a comment:
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=48948

Gusar wrote:

There's two things: A few 8xx fixes are in kernel 3.4, and SNA supports 8xx. So kernel 3.4 and xf86-video-intel-2.19 compiled with SNA might work.

Oh, and the DRI part in that code snippet is redundant, Shadow already turns off everything, including dri.

A bit over my head but I'll google it.

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#91 2012-06-02 20:12:12

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#92 2012-07-01 19:02:06

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#93 2012-07-03 14:01:14

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Re: Intel 82845G and xorg 1.8 - anyone got it working?

What's the difference between xf86-video-intel, xf86-video-intel-uxa and xf86-video-intel-sna?


Arch64 + Openbox
Email: rdfreitas@archlinux.com.br

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#94 2012-07-03 14:29:38

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Re: Intel 82845G and xorg 1.8 - anyone got it working?

xf86-video-intel is gone. You only have the -sna and -uxa variants. The difference between them is already spelled out in the name. One uses uxa acceleration, the other sna acceleration.

sna is much faster. But it's still in active development, so there might still be issues here and there. Still, I suggest going with sna, I haven't encountered issues yet.

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#95 2012-07-03 18:14:39

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Re: Intel 82845G and xorg 1.8 - anyone got it working?

So which of these is the better for Intel 82845G graphics? Any performance enhancements noted?

The wiki entry seems to say it's the uxa:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Intel#Installation

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#96 2012-07-03 18:26:49

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Re: Intel 82845G and xorg 1.8 - anyone got it working?

Considering the past problems with 8xx, the reason for the existence of this thread, SNA could actually be the solution.

I don't know why the wiki says what it does. While the "s" indeed stands for Sandy Bridge (sna = Sandy Bridge New Architecture), that's a misnomer, SNA supports all Intel graphics from gen2 (i8xx) onwards, which means only gen1 (i810/i815) isn't supported. So I stand by what I said above, go with sna. Only go back to uxa in case sna gives you problems.

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#97 2012-07-04 17:06:31

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Re: Intel 82845G and xorg 1.8 - anyone got it working?

I'm getting some graphics corruption with -sna. For now it's just minor mildly irritating quirks.

@gusar
Are you using any conf file with the drivers?

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#98 2012-07-04 17:22:09

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Re: Intel 82845G and xorg 1.8 - anyone got it working?

karol wrote:

Are you using any conf file with the drivers?

Nope. I don't have 8xx (gen2) hardware though, but 945 (gen3).

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#99 2012-07-05 17:04:07

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Re: Intel 82845G and xorg 1.8 - anyone got it working?

I tried it out. I still get the error I've been getting since my first post in this thread:

[   188.087] (EE) intel(0): Detected a hung GPU, disabling acceleration

Except now it is happening the first time I start X. Before it would happen anywhere between 10 minutes and a 24 hours. The only good thing now is the artifacts that get left on the screen when the GPU hangs, quickly disappear when switching the desktop. So it is at least usable.

Back to fbdev for me.

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#100 2012-07-05 17:44:48

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Re: Intel 82845G and xorg 1.8 - anyone got it working?

Why fbdev? Use the intel driver, but activate Shadow. You'll get modesetting and Xv for video playback.

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