High CPU temprature in HP Pavilion DV6 3190

roozbehonline · 2011-04-18 10:19:21

hi guys !
i have a problem with my new laptop ! this is HP Pavilion DV6 3190 with this config :

CPU : intel core i7 720 QM 6MB cache
RAM : 6 GB DDR3
HDD: 640 5400 rpm
LED 15.6" screen
VGA : ATI 5650 with Catalyst driver 11.3 installed

I installed and configed all of laptop tools from this wiki page :
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Laptop

also when I run sensors command in konsole I have this output :

Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 0: +67.0°C (high = +84.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
coretemp-isa-0001
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 1: +66.0°C (high = +84.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
coretemp-isa-0002
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 2: +68.0°C (high = +84.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
coretemp-isa-0003
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 3: +66.0°C (high = +84.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
acpitz-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1: +67.0°C

i think 66 C for a laptop is too high ! also in this wiki page i can see fan rmp and other detais about cpu and fan but i have not this information in my output:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fan_Speed_Control

also I have fanspeed plasmoid in my KDE desktop but it doesn't detect my cpu fan

P.S: i have KDE 4.6.2 with Xorg 1.9.4 and catalyst 11.3 driver.

How can I fix my problem ?

the sad clown · 2011-04-18 12:32:25

Have you tried physically cleaning out the air vents. Dust buildup will also cause excessive heating.

einhard · 2011-04-18 15:26:25

Which cpufreq governor are you using? Ondemand is probably the best solution (you can check this with "cpufreq-info"). Poversaving in Radeon works? Have you tried xf86-video-ati driver first before installing catalyst? You can also check with "sudo powertop" what is causing load for CPU. 720 QM have many power-saving features which are probably disabled by default (turning off whole cores, etc.). Also disabling desktop effects in kwin will clarify some things so you should also check this.

You don't see rpm and voltage because some chips, sensors, controllers are not recognized (there aren't drivers loaded?). Try "sudo sensors-detect" to find that out.

Normal temperature for this processor is 40-45 in idle, on Pavilion it may be higher, many users are complaining about this, design of cooling system isn't top-notch in this model.

Last edited by einhard (2011-04-18 15:41:42)

roozbehonline · 2011-04-18 18:15:13

einhard wrote:

Which cpufreq governor are you using? Ondemand is probably the best solution (you can check this with "cpufreq-info"). Poversaving in Radeon works? Have you tried xf86-video-ati driver first before installing catalyst? You can also check with "sudo powertop" what is causing load for CPU. 720 QM have many power-saving features which are probably disabled by default (turning off whole cores, etc.). Also disabling desktop effects in kwin will clarify some things so you should also check this.
You don't see rpm and voltage because some chips, sensors, controllers are not recognized (there aren't drivers loaded?). Try "sudo sensors-detect" to find that out.
Normal temperature for this processor is 40-45 in idle, on Pavilion it may be higher, many users are complaining about this, design of cooling system isn't top-notch in this model.

- im using ondemand governor...
- how can I save power in Radeon ?
- I tried xf86-video-ati but it doesn't support HDMI TV out !
- i tried powertop ! it seems works a bit to cooling system !
- how can I enable core i7 cpu power saving ?
- I ran sudo sensors-detect but it doesn't detect sensors in "sensors" cmd like wiki page...

is it any soloution else ?

einhard · 2011-04-18 19:48:46

Can you give output of "sudo powertop -d" "cpufreq-info" and "ls /sys/module/"? (Of course on idle)

I don't have any AMD card but you can look at this https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Radeon#Powersaving it's for opensource driver
With Catalyst I don't have a clue. There isn't something like CCC on Linux?

If sensors-detect doesn't detect anything then controlling fan isn't possible for your notebook on Linux, at least for now.

What about Windows? How about temperatures there?

Last edited by einhard (2011-04-18 19:58:38)

roozbehonline · 2011-04-18 21:31:09

there are my outputs :

rosha@ROSHA-Arch ~]$ sudo powertop -d
PowerTOP 1.13 (C) 2007 - 2010 Intel Corporation
Collecting data for 15 seconds

Cn    Avg residency
C0 (cpu running) ( 3.3%)
polling    3.0ms ( 0.2%)
C1 mwait    0.1ms ( 0.8%)
C2 mwait    0.6ms (14.4%)
C3 mwait    4.3ms (81.3%)
P-states (frequencies)
Turbo Mode 26.7%
1.60 Ghz 11.7%
1466 Mhz 13.3%
1333 Mhz 4.9%
933 Mhz 39.0%
Wakeups-from-idle per second : 481.6 interval: 15.0s
no ACPI power usage estimate available
Top causes for wakeups:
57.4% (237.6) [fglrx[0]@PCI:1:0:0] <interrupt>
7.2% ( 29.9) kworker/0:1
5.6% ( 23.2) [kernel scheduler] Load balancing tick
5.5% ( 22.9) [ehci_hcd:usb1, wlan0] <interrupt>
4.6% ( 19.2) amarok
3.8% ( 15.5) plasma-desktop
3.3% ( 13.7) kworker/0:0
2.9% ( 12.2) kwin
2.3% ( 9.5) [ahci] <interrupt>
2.3% ( 9.3) [acpi] <interrupt>
1.8% ( 7.4) [extra timer interrupt]
1.1% ( 4.7) firefox
0.7% ( 2.8) X
0.5% ( 2.1) NetworkManager
0.1% ( 0.6) knotify4
0.1% ( 0.4) kworker/u:5
0.1% ( 0.4) powernowd
0.1% ( 0.4) kopete
0.0% ( 0.2) mysqld
0.0% ( 0.1) kded4
0.0% ( 0.1) [kernel core] cfq_completed_request (cfq_idle_slice_timer)
0.0% ( 0.1) konversation
0.0% ( 0.1) sensors
0.0% ( 0.1) dolphin
0.0% ( 0.1) kwalletd
0.0% ( 0.1) udisks-daemon
0.0% ( 0.1) httpd
0.0% ( 0.1) top
0.0% ( 0.1) lancelot
0.0% ( 0.1) [kernel core] hrtimer_start (tick_sched_timer)
0.0% ( 0.1) init
0.0% ( 0.1) akonadiserver
0.0% ( 0.1) rpcbind
0.0% ( 0.1) yakuake
0.0% ( 0.1) pm-suspend
0.0% ( 0.1) gpg-agent
An audio device is active 100.0% of the time:
hwC0D0 IDT 92HD81B1X5
A USB device is active 100.0% of the time:
/sys/bus/usb/devices/1-1
Suggestion: Enable USB autosuspend for non-input devices by pressing the U key

Suggestion: Enable SATA ALPM link power management via:
echo min_power > /sys/class/scsi_host/host0/link_power_management_policy
or press the S key.
Suggestion: Enable the ondemand cpu speed governor for all processors via:
echo ondemand > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor

Suggestion: enable HD audio powersave mode by executing the following command:
echo 1 > /sys/module/snd_hda_intel/parameters/power_save
or by passing power_save=1 as module parameter.
Suggestion: Enable the CONFIG_INOTIFY kernel configuration option.
This option allows programs to wait for changes in files and directories
instead of having to poll for these changes
Recent USB suspend statistics
Active Device name
0.0% USB device 2-1.5 : 2SF022 (Realtek)
0.0% /sys/bus/usb/devices/2-1.3
100.0% USB device 1-1.2 : RF USB Receiver (A4Tech)
0.0% /sys/bus/usb/devices/1-1.3
0.0% /sys/bus/usb/devices/2-1
100.0% /sys/bus/usb/devices/1-1
0.0% USB device usb2 : EHCI Host Controller (Linux 2.6.38-ARCH ehci_hcd)
100.0% USB device usb1 : EHCI Host Controller (Linux 2.6.38-ARCH ehci_hcd)
Runtime Device Power Management statistics
Active Device name
0.0% 7f:02.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QPI Link 0
0.0% 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller
0.0% 02:00.0 Network controller: RaLink RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe
0.0% 01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Redwood HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5600 Series]
0.0% 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Redwood [Radeon HD 5600 Series]
0.0% 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset 4 port SATA AHCI Controller
0.0% 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2 Enhanced Host Controller
0.0% 00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 2
0.0% 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 1
0.0% 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio
0.0% 00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2 Enhanced Host Controller
0.0% 00:03.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor PCI Express Root Port 1
Devices without runtime PM
7f:05.3 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Memory Controller Channel 1 Thermal Control Registers
7f:05.2 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Memory Controller Channel 1 Rank Registers
7f:05.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Memory Controller Channel 1 Address Registers
7f:05.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Memory Controller Channel 1 Control Registers
7f:04.3 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Memory Controller Channel 0 Thermal Control Registers
7f:04.2 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Memory Controller Channel 0 Rank Registers
7f:04.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Memory Controller Channel 0 Address Registers
7f:04.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Memory Controller Channel 0 Control Registers
7f:03.4 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Memory Controller Test Registers
7f:03.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Memory Controller Target Address Decoder
7f:03.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Memory Controller
7f:02.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QPI Physical 0
7f:00.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QuickPath Architecture System Address Decoder
7f:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QuickPath Architecture Generic Non-Core Registers
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset SMBus Controller
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 5 Series Chipset LPC Interface Controller
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge
00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset HECI Controller
00:10.1 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Core Processor QPI Routing and Protocol Registers
00:10.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Core Processor QPI Link
5 more devices without runtime PM ommitted
Recent audio activity statistics
Active Device name
100.0% hwC0D0 IDT 92HD81B1X5
Recent SATA AHCI link activity statistics
Active Partial Slumber Device name

rosha@ROSHA-Arch ~]$ cpufreq-info
cpufrequtils 008: cpufreq-info (C) Dominik Brodowski 2004-2009
Report errors and bugs to cpufreq@vger.kernel.org, please.
analyzing CPU 0:
driver: acpi-cpufreq
CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 0
maximum transition latency: 10.0 us.
hardware limits: 933 MHz - 1.60 GHz
available frequency steps: 1.60 GHz, 1.60 GHz, 1.47 GHz, 1.33 GHz, 1.20 GHz, 1.07 GHz, 933 MHz
available cpufreq governors: userspace, powersave, ondemand, performance
current policy: frequency should be within 933 MHz and 1.47 GHz.
The governor "ondemand" may decide which speed to use
within this range.
current CPU frequency is 1.47 GHz.
cpufreq stats: 1.60 GHz:0.00%, 1.60 GHz:0.00%, 1.47 GHz:65.34%, 1.33 GHz:2.34%, 1.20 GHz:2.65%, 1.07 GHz:2.38%, 933 MHz:27.29% (179245)
analyzing CPU 1:
driver: acpi-cpufreq
CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 1
maximum transition latency: 10.0 us.
hardware limits: 933 MHz - 1.60 GHz
available frequency steps: 1.60 GHz, 1.60 GHz, 1.47 GHz, 1.33 GHz, 1.20 GHz, 1.07 GHz, 933 MHz
available cpufreq governors: userspace, powersave, ondemand, performance
current policy: frequency should be within 933 MHz and 1.60 GHz.
The governor "userspace" may decide which speed to use
within this range.
current CPU frequency is 1.60 GHz.
cpufreq stats: 1.60 GHz:40.82%, 1.60 GHz:16.72%, 1.47 GHz:10.91%, 1.33 GHz:8.25%, 1.20 GHz:5.85%, 1.07 GHz:4.97%, 933 MHz:12.47% (2593)
analyzing CPU 2:
driver: acpi-cpufreq
CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 2
maximum transition latency: 10.0 us.
hardware limits: 933 MHz - 1.60 GHz
available frequency steps: 1.60 GHz, 1.60 GHz, 1.47 GHz, 1.33 GHz, 1.20 GHz, 1.07 GHz, 933 MHz
available cpufreq governors: userspace, powersave, ondemand, performance
current policy: frequency should be within 933 MHz and 1.60 GHz.
The governor "userspace" may decide which speed to use
within this range.
current CPU frequency is 933 MHz.
cpufreq stats: 1.60 GHz:2.02%, 1.60 GHz:1.65%, 1.47 GHz:1.67%, 1.33 GHz:1.77%, 1.20 GHz:1.61%, 1.07 GHz:1.55%, 933 MHz:89.73% (833)
analyzing CPU 3:
driver: acpi-cpufreq
CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 3
maximum transition latency: 10.0 us.
hardware limits: 933 MHz - 1.60 GHz
available frequency steps: 1.60 GHz, 1.60 GHz, 1.47 GHz, 1.33 GHz, 1.20 GHz, 1.07 GHz, 933 MHz
available cpufreq governors: userspace, powersave, ondemand, performance
current policy: frequency should be within 933 MHz and 1.60 GHz.
The governor "userspace" may decide which speed to use
within this range.
current CPU frequency is 1.60 GHz.
cpufreq stats: 1.60 GHz:24.10%, 1.60 GHz:4.24%, 1.47 GHz:2.39%, 1.33 GHz:1.59%, 1.20 GHz:0.94%, 1.07 GHz:0.76%, 933 MHz:65.98% (720)
analyzing CPU 4:
driver: acpi-cpufreq
CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 4
maximum transition latency: 10.0 us.
hardware limits: 933 MHz - 1.60 GHz
available frequency steps: 1.60 GHz, 1.60 GHz, 1.47 GHz, 1.33 GHz, 1.20 GHz, 1.07 GHz, 933 MHz
available cpufreq governors: userspace, powersave, ondemand, performance
current policy: frequency should be within 933 MHz and 1.60 GHz.
The governor "userspace" may decide which speed to use
within this range.
current CPU frequency is 1.60 GHz.
cpufreq stats: 1.60 GHz:52.33%, 1.60 GHz:20.21%, 1.47 GHz:10.72%, 1.33 GHz:6.69%, 1.20 GHz:3.58%, 1.07 GHz:2.42%, 933 MHz:4.05% (2365)
analyzing CPU 5:
driver: acpi-cpufreq
CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 5
maximum transition latency: 10.0 us.
hardware limits: 933 MHz - 1.60 GHz
available frequency steps: 1.60 GHz, 1.60 GHz, 1.47 GHz, 1.33 GHz, 1.20 GHz, 1.07 GHz, 933 MHz
available cpufreq governors: userspace, powersave, ondemand, performance
current policy: frequency should be within 933 MHz and 1.60 GHz.
The governor "userspace" may decide which speed to use
within this range.
current CPU frequency is 933 MHz.
cpufreq stats: 1.60 GHz:4.46%, 1.60 GHz:3.49%, 1.47 GHz:3.30%, 1.33 GHz:3.43%, 1.20 GHz:2.89%, 1.07 GHz:3.28%, 933 MHz:79.15% (1544)
analyzing CPU 6:
driver: acpi-cpufreq
CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 6
maximum transition latency: 10.0 us.
hardware limits: 933 MHz - 1.60 GHz
available frequency steps: 1.60 GHz, 1.60 GHz, 1.47 GHz, 1.33 GHz, 1.20 GHz, 1.07 GHz, 933 MHz
available cpufreq governors: userspace, powersave, ondemand, performance
current policy: frequency should be within 933 MHz and 1.60 GHz.
The governor "userspace" may decide which speed to use
within this range.
current CPU frequency is 933 MHz.
cpufreq stats: 1.60 GHz:0.90%, 1.60 GHz:0.84%, 1.47 GHz:0.78%, 1.33 GHz:0.78%, 1.20 GHz:0.79%, 1.07 GHz:0.80%, 933 MHz:95.11% (465)
analyzing CPU 7:
driver: acpi-cpufreq
CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 7
maximum transition latency: 10.0 us.
hardware limits: 933 MHz - 1.60 GHz
available frequency steps: 1.60 GHz, 1.60 GHz, 1.47 GHz, 1.33 GHz, 1.20 GHz, 1.07 GHz, 933 MHz
available cpufreq governors: userspace, powersave, ondemand, performance
current policy: frequency should be within 933 MHz and 1.60 GHz.
The governor "userspace" may decide which speed to use
within this range.
current CPU frequency is 1.07 GHz.
cpufreq stats: 1.60 GHz:1.79%, 1.60 GHz:1.62%, 1.47 GHz:1.62%, 1.33 GHz:1.32%, 1.20 GHz:1.34%, 1.07 GHz:1.40%, 933 MHz:90.91% (697)

[rosha@ROSHA-Arch ~]$ ls /sys/module/

8250 button eeprom_93cx6 i2c_core kernel netpoll rt2800pci snd_hda_codec_idt snd_timer usbhid
ac cdrom ehci_hcd i2c_dev keyboard nfs rt2860sta snd_hda_intel soundcore uvcvideo
acpi cfg80211 evdev i2c_i801 l2cap nfs_acl rt2x00lib snd_hwdep sparse_keymap v4l2_compat_ioctl32
acpi_cpufreq coretemp exportfs i7core_edac libahci nfsd rt2x00pci snd_mixer_oss spurious vboxdrv
ahci cpufreq_ondemand ext4 i8042 libata pcie_aspm sco snd_page_alloc sr_mod vboxnetadp
apparmor cpufreq_powersave fan input_polldev lis3lv02d pcspkr scsi_mod snd_pcm sunrpc vboxnetflt
auth_rpcgss cpufreq_stats fglrx intel_idle lockd printk sd_mod snd_pcm_oss tcp_cubic video
battery cpufreq_userspace freq_table ipv6 mac80211 processor serio_raw snd_seq thermal videodev
block crc16 fscache iTCO_vendor_support mbcache psmouse sg snd_seq_device tpm vt
bluetooth crc_ccitt hid iTCO_wdt mii r8169 snd snd_seq_dummy tpm_bios wmi
bnep dns_resolver hp_accel jbd2 mousedev rfkill snd_hda_codec snd_seq_midi_event tpm_tis xz_dec
btusb edac_core hp_wmi joydev mperf rt2800lib snd_hda_codec_hdmi snd_seq_oss usbcore

einhard · 2011-04-19 12:52:17

When I wrote idle I meant on idle with no other applications running (close firefox, kopete, amarok,etc.).

Can you close all apps, disable desktop effects in KDE (important), reboot and one more time give output for "sudo powertop -d"? You can also measure temperatures in this state with sensors.

Also as you can see (or not) in cpufreq-info, you use ondemand governor only for first core, rest are using userspace. Do you use laptop-mode-tools or cpufreq daemon, you should only use one? Give output of daemons and modules from /etc/rc.conf

The issue is probably fglrx driver (Catalyst) because it gives the most Wakeups-from-idle per second and it's preventing CPU from reducing voltage/frequency, well, catalyst is known for problems on Linux. i7 720QM is quite hot on load too, so if you are doing something heavy or many things at the same time temperatures can be in range 70-90, it's normal for this and many other mobile processors, especially with average cooling system. Processor will turn off/ throttle when the 100 C is reached.

Do you have windows installed? If yes, what are normal temperatures there on idle?

Last edited by einhard (2011-04-19 13:11:41)

demanufacture · 2011-05-27 08:30:21

I have same issue on my lenovo y560p with i7 2630QM CPU. Its turbo boost bug, it is in all 2.6.38 and 2.6.39 kernels (tried on gentoo with gentoo and vanilla sources). Try app called i7z (in aur), it will propably shows that one core is running without halting.

Thats how my i7z looks:
http://i.imgur.com/rZe39.png

please check yours

yell! · 2011-05-29 09:48:37

in addition to demanufacture,
could you post Xorg.0.log? In this file we can see if catalyst goes in powersaving mode.
In windows, which temps do you achieve?

demanufacture · 2011-06-01 00:08:29

Everything is fine with catalyst. I've checked it on start, I was using also open source drivers for my HD6570 and have still the same problem. Now I'm sure that is turbo boost problem.

roozbehonline please compile this program: http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/ … turbostat/ and paste output.

These are mine results on each kernel:

2.6.37-r4 http://paste.pocoo.org/show/398166/
2.6.38-r4 http://paste.pocoo.org/show/398168/
2.6.39 http://paste.pocoo.org/show/398170/

here is bug reported on bugzilla: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35722

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