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Pacopag

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[SOLVED] virtualbox from AUR vs. Oracle's site

Hi.  I was wondering if there is anything wrong with using the .run file from the Oracle site to install virtualbox.  Or will it be easier or better to do it using the arch repos?

Also, the architecture on oracle's site is amd64.  Is this different from X86_64?

Last edited by Pacopag (2011-06-07 18:26:56)

karol

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Re: [SOLVED] virtualbox from AUR vs. Oracle's site

Hi.  I was wondering if there is anything wrong with using the .run file from the Oracle site to install virtualbox.  Or will it be easier or better to do it using the arch repos?

If you don't use packages from the repos or if you don't build packages from AUR pacman won't be able to manage them.

Also, the architecture on oracle's site is amd64.  Is this different from X86_64?

That's the same.

Last edited by karol (2011-06-07 15:15:06)

Pacopag

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Re: [SOLVED] virtualbox from AUR vs. Oracle's site

Perfect answer.  Thanks.

Pacopag

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Re: [SOLVED] virtualbox from AUR vs. Oracle's site

I'm trying to use the repos.  Getting an error when I try to install qt

error: failed retrieving file 'qt-4.7.3-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz' from mirrors.kernel.org : File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)
warning: failed to retrieve some files from extra
error: failed to commit transaction (File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access))
Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded.

Tried changing mirror, which didn't work.  Any help?

karol

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Re: [SOLVED] virtualbox from AUR vs. Oracle's site

http://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/qt/
qt 4.7.3-2 is the current version, you need to update your database. Have you run 'pacman -Syu' before trying to install new software?

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Re: [SOLVED] virtualbox from AUR vs. Oracle's site

http://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/qt/
qt 4.7.3-2 is the current version, you need to update your database. Have you run 'pacman -Syu' before trying to install new software?

Just to reiterate this thought, when a file not found error occurs for me, I run 'pacman -Syy' to make sure that all the repos are brought in.

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Pacopag

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Re: [SOLVED] virtualbox from AUR vs. Oracle's site

Thanks.  qt installed fine now.  But I got the following warnings when I did pacman -Syu

warning: cannot resolve "glibc>=2.14", a dependency of "lib32-glibc"
warning: cannot resolve "glibc>=2.14", a dependency of "lib32-glibc"
:: The following packages cannot be upgraded due to unresolvable dependencies:
      lib32-gcc-libs  lib32-glibc

Is this something to worry about?  Any way to fix it?

karol

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Re: [SOLVED] virtualbox from AUR vs. Oracle's site

Thanks.  qt installed fine now.  But I got the following warnings when I did pacman -Syu

warning: cannot resolve "glibc>=2.14", a dependency of "lib32-glibc"
warning: cannot resolve "glibc>=2.14", a dependency of "lib32-glibc"
:: The following packages cannot be upgraded due to unresolvable dependencies:
      lib32-gcc-libs  lib32-glibc

Is this something to worry about?  Any way to fix it?

Hmmm, glibc 2.14 is not in [core] yet. Are you using [testing] or [multilib-testing]?
The current lib32-glibc requires glibc>=2.13 .

Last edited by karol (2011-06-07 16:16:31)

Pacopag

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Re: [SOLVED] virtualbox from AUR vs. Oracle's site

Yes.  I'm using multilib-testing.  Should I not use it?

karol

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Re: [SOLVED] virtualbox from AUR vs. Oracle's site

Yes.  I'm using multilib-testing.  Should I not use it?

You seem a bit inexperienced to be using a testing repo.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pa … positories

I suggest you stop using testing repositories and use just the regular [multilib] repo. Do you know how to do that?

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Re: [SOLVED] virtualbox from AUR vs. Oracle's site

Hi.  I was wondering if there is anything wrong with using the .run file from the Oracle site to install virtualbox.  Or will it be easier or better to do it using the arch repos?

Major features of pacman and makepkg are that builds are done in a fake root environment where the files that are to be written to the actual file system are stored in a directory structure that mimics that of your live system.  During the makepkg, all of the files to be installed are (supposed) to be kept in this structure.  Those files are then packaged and handed to Pacman.  Pacman keeps track of the files that are actually written to the file system, and installs them as root.  This limits the danger of handing over the keys to your system by executing some random install script from the Internet with elevated permissions. 

No major operating system would ever consider doing that 

Later, when you no longer want that package installed, pacman knows where all of the bodies are buried and can remove all of the files that had been installed, not something for which all installers are known.

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Re: [SOLVED] virtualbox from AUR vs. Oracle's site

Sure.  I can remove the multilib-testing repo.  I have a new problem now.  I can't mount usb devices in my virtual machine (Windows XP SP3).  I installed the virtualbox extensions from the AUR.  It seemed to work ok (I just installed it.  I didn't do any additional configuration.

Virtualbox runs fine.  But no USB devices.  I'm using devmon to automount usb devices in arch.  If I try to go to Settings in virtual box, I get a dialog saying this.

Failed to access the USB subsystem.
Could not load the Host USB Proxy Service (VERR_FILE_NOT_FOUND). The service might not be installed on the host computer.

Details:

Result Code: 
NS_ERROR_FAILURE (0x00004005)
Component: 
Host
Interface: 
IHost {35b004f4-7806-4009-bfa8-d1308adba7e5}
Callee: 
IMachine {662c175e-a69d-40b8-a77a-1d719d0ab062}

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Re: [SOLVED] virtualbox from AUR vs. Oracle's site

@Pacopag please pay attention at pacman output. add your user to vboxusers group and relogin

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Re: [SOLVED] virtualbox from AUR vs. Oracle's site

Hi.  Thanks a million for your help (everyone).  karol, you rule.  I definitely owe you more than one (wish I could buy you lunch or something).  wonder, thanks for the tip.  I always just assume that pacman is just saying a bunch of stuff I'll never understand.  Now I realize that he does speak english sometimes. ewaller, that is rad how pacman works, and the great stuff I read about pacman is why I even bothered going through the motions of getting a functional arch system up, even though I likely am over my head.  But I'm learning and I love it.

It works now.  I'm very happy.  Hope you all have a great rest of the day.

Last edited by Pacopag (2011-06-07 18:25:57)