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I've already migrated to udev (and painlessly I might add), but it's my understanding that devfs is almost out the door:
http://archlinux.org/news.php#157
Which one are you guys/gals using?
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it's also wise to go back to /dev/hdx scheme because that will also be taken out of the kernel,
arch + gentoo + initng + python = enlisy
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my understanding is that arch's udev config makes symlinks in the /dev/discs/discX/partY format for backwards compatibility.
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yes it does but you have to have it in your bootmanagers conf file so you better go back to the old scheme over all,
arch + gentoo + initng + python = enlisy
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i agree. makes not sense to mix and match.
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The old way is better anyways
But, what about people that use neither? Not that I'd want to though...
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I use udev, and have used it since early last year. I painlessly switched to it, and devfs does not even exist in my kernel. So wee.
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I use udev, but my only problem is the next: trying to fix LILO from ArchLinux install CD fails if I am using the new naming scheme in /etc/lilo.conf, that's because the CD is running with DevFS.
I will be waiting for the next Udev-only version of the Install CD and then... no fear of breaking the Linux box
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Using udev, (almost) never used devfs. I came straight from static /dev with Debian to udev with Arch on my laptop, with devfs used for install only. None of my kernels have devfs.
Slightly OT - compared to the painless udev migration on Arch, I gave up on udev on Debian. My sarge NFS/CUPS server is still static, which is one of the reasons I will be upgrading it to Arch as soon as I get the time.
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it's also wise to go back to /dev/hdx scheme because that will also be taken out of the kernel,
Yeah, I went with the /dev/hdx scheme when I migrated to udev, and everything worked without problem. I'm a bit surprised though that nobody has voted as still using devfs (as of this post).
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xerxes2 wrote:it's also wise to go back to /dev/hdx scheme because that will also be taken out of the kernel,
Yeah, I went with the /dev/hdx scheme when I migrated to udev, and everything worked without problem. I'm a bit surprised though that nobody has voted as still using devfs (as of this post).
I switched to udev after I saw the post on the mailling list that devfs will be removed.. the switch was amazingly painless!
How do I go to that /dev/hdx scheme? It looks like the /dev/discs/discX/ are only symlinks to the actual /dev/hdx .. so I just remove the /dev/discs/ directory and adjust the paths in grub and fstab?
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ozar wrote:xerxes2 wrote:it's also wise to go back to /dev/hdx scheme because that will also be taken out of the kernel,
Yeah, I went with the /dev/hdx scheme when I migrated to udev, and everything worked without problem. I'm a bit surprised though that nobody has voted as still using devfs (as of this post).
I switched to udev after I saw the post on the mailling list that devfs will be removed.. the switch was amazingly painless!
How do I go to that /dev/hdx scheme? It looks like the /dev/discs/discX/ are only symlinks to the actual /dev/hdx .. so I just remove the /dev/discs/ directory and adjust the paths in grub and fstab?
I don't think you even have to remove the symlinks. I'm using the /dev/hdx scheme. Just change all your fstab and grub entries.
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I am using udev, and has been as long as I remember *which might not be so long*
nah, I find both /dev/hdx and /dev/discs/discX schemes fine...the latter reminds me of sun solaris (although easier)
udev has always worked fine for me
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I have used /dev/hdx forever, even when I used devfs. The installation of Arch is when I first really encountered /dev/discs/. heh
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I use udev. I've been using it since I first read about it in the Arch Linux newsletter. I definitely like the /dev/xyz better than /dev/discs/discx/partx crap. I never even heard of the latter until I switched to Arch Linux.
I really like the way permissions are handled in udev, it makes life much easier.
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don't use either. I liked devfs. Udev was way too high maintenance, finicky and seems to require outside apps too function ... which is awkward.
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udev isn't high maintenance or finicky anymore. You just experienced early adopter symptoms.
Dusty
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To Sarah
just a question, how do one do without udev/devfs ? what things are different ? is there a /dev/hdX or how does is work? is it faster in some ways?
please explain (if you don't mind)
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http://wiki2.archlinux.org/index.php/Sw … om%20devfs
But I believe Sarah31 was referring to the fact that she doesn't use Linux. She likes to bring that up to get a rise out of people...
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aha....*funny *
btw, thanks for the link
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Switched to Udev only a few days ago but wow did it mess things up took 3 hours fixing it. Finally got it tho. damm i can't vote.. limit must be 70 o well i use uDev
I can't really tell the difference other then no kernel involved....
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I switched to udev after I saw the post on the mailling list that devfs will be removed..
Same thing here, it was hard, but now using udev 8)
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To Sarah
just a question, how do one do without udev/devfs ? what things are different ? is there a /dev/hdX or how does is work? is it faster in some ways?
please explain (if you don't mind)
Yeah I got rid of my PC when I went back to using Macs only. Their subsystem is a combination of unix and their play on it.
Before i stopped using linux I had migrated back to udev but I was still having lots of issues with it.
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Yeah I got rid of my PC when I went back to using Macs only. Their subsystem is a combination of unix and their play on it.
Before i stopped using linux I had migrated back to udev but I was still having lots of issues with it.
Ah, now I understand
been thinking of getting a mac too...(powerbook)..but i don't feel comfortable with only one mouse button (need three)
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So buy a three button mouse. The reason they don't have more than one button is because if you are familiar with the OS you know you don't need one.
I use a two button wireless (not an Apple mouse) because I don't like how sensitive their mouse buttons are.
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