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#1 2011-07-19 18:03:15

Spartakus
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Registered: 2011-07-19
Posts: 12

Radeon Mobility HD 4650 / xf86-video-ati driver problem

Hi everyone,

I am under Archlinux with my laptop (Asus N81vp)  since a year, and i've got this problem since the begining. With the radeon driver installed, my X work well but the fan of my card is screaming and my laptop anormaly hot. I do not have this problem under Windows or with the catalyst driver (witch is working). I really want to use the radeon, more maintained (and free ^^).
I cannot have the temperature and the state of the fan, my ic2 chips aren't recognized by lm-sensors...

I really don't know where the problem is : if anyone have a Radeon mobility HD 4650, i would like to know if they have the same problem or a solution. Maybe it's a bug of the driver, or a configuration problem...

Anyway, if anyone have a solution, i googlize it for hours, and this problem outclass my knowledge...

Here's a bit of my hardware and configs files. I you want more, tell me

Thanx in advance (and i'm sorry if my english sucks, i'm from France ...)


uname -r
2.6.39-ARCH

Version de xf86-video-ati : 6.14.2-1 (Testing)
I do not have a xorg.conf

[arsenik@Spartakus ~]$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Memory Controller Hub (rev 07)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset PCI Express Graphics Port (rev 07)
00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 03)
00:1a.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 (rev 03)
00:1a.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #6 (rev 03)
00:1a.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 (rev 03)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 03)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 03)
00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 3 (rev 03)
00:1c.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 6 (rev 03)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 03)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 03)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 03)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1 (rev 03)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 93)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation ICH9M LPC Interface Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation ICH9M/M-E SATA AHCI Controller (rev 03)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M96 [Mobility Radeon HD 4650]
01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RV710/730
03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation WiFi Link 5100
06:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 02)
07:03.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller (rev 05)
07:03.1 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 22)
07:03.2 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C592 Memory Stick Bus Host Adapter (rev 12)
07:03.3 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd xD-Picture Card Controller (rev 12)

dmesg
http://pastebin.com/nmZYeTKf
/etc/rc.conf
http://pastebin.com/v6q4LQD4

Last edited by Spartakus (2011-07-19 18:30:40)

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#2 2011-07-19 19:49:53

titegtnodI
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Registered: 2011-07-19
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Re: Radeon Mobility HD 4650 / xf86-video-ati driver problem

Could it potentially be hot because you don't have cpufreq configured properly? To my knowledge it's on performance by default (highest clockrate). Also I have an ATI card but I use Catalyst for the 3D acceleration.

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#3 2011-07-20 00:07:28

Spartakus
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Registered: 2011-07-19
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Re: Radeon Mobility HD 4650 / xf86-video-ati driver problem

For what I know, cpu_freq only manage the cpu frequency. I manage it with laptop-mode, and under ondemand policy. So....

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#4 2011-07-20 09:44:08

iDont
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Registered: 2009-10-22
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Re: Radeon Mobility HD 4650 / xf86-video-ati driver problem

As far as I know, the open source driver simply churns through quite a bit more power than catalyst when idling. The higher core temperature is the unfortunate direct result of this.

I'm using xf86-video-ati 6.14.2-1 too, but with a Radeon Mobility HD4570 (which is detected by lm-sensors, by the way). With the default driver settings (highest power state), I see core temperatures as high as 88 degrees C when doing nothing. I've added

echo mid > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile

to /etc/rc.local as a workaround for the issue. This basically forces a lower power mode than default at boot. Currently, my GPU idles at 64 degrees C, which is sort of acceptable in my opinion. The obvious side effect of this workaround is that your graphics performance goes down, which I'd even notice in Gnome 3's transitions (not being as smooth as before).

This page may be relevant to your interests:  https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ATI#Powersaving

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#5 2011-07-20 21:13:20

Spartakus
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Registered: 2011-07-19
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Re: Radeon Mobility HD 4650 / xf86-video-ati driver problem

I've tried this before, I should have mentionned it in my first post. The good new is, with this method (echo mid > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile), it decreases the fan speed of my gpu  . It's not optimal however, the difference is very small. But the bad news is it freeze my computer : I cannot use the shell (or any of the tty...), I'm force to reboot my laptop. I cannot even know the new voltage of my card...

A friend of mine says each gpu chips are very specifics and what works on one may not works on others. And there is a difference between laptop gpu (Mobility) and others.... So my problem is unfortunately quite specific...

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#6 2011-12-05 05:55:15

dw
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From: Vienna, Austria
Registered: 2006-11-25
Posts: 160

Re: Radeon Mobility HD 4650 / xf86-video-ati driver problem

Spartakus wrote:

I've tried this before, I should have mentionned it in my first post. The good new is, with this method (echo mid > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile), it decreases the fan speed of my gpu  . It's not optimal however, the difference is very small. But the bad news is it freeze my computer : I cannot use the shell (or any of the tty...), I'm force to reboot my laptop. I cannot even know the new voltage of my card...

A friend of mine says each gpu chips are very specifics and what works on one may not works on others. And there is a difference between laptop gpu (Mobility) and others.... So my problem is unfortunately quite specific...

i have exactly the same problem on my girlfriend's notebook (samsung r272) featuring this card. the big problem is that my gf wants to use gnome-shell which doesn't allow to use catalyst either. what did you end up with? using catalyst and a simplier desktop environment?

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