Arch randomly locks up completely.

lupusarcanus · 2011-05-01 06:25:23

I have been having this issue for a while. I tried to get it solved on another forum, to no avail. This is frustrating me, so hopefully I don't rub off as rude.

So, here's the scoop. Arch will just randomly freeze up. LED's like caps lock, scroll lock, touchpad off/on and others will completely freeze. Pressing them has no effect. The keyboard is rendered useless, I can't do anything with it. X itself just completely freezes. It's very odd. I always have to hard reboot the computer by pressing and holding the power button for several seconds. In the last freeze, which just happened about an hour ago, my system actually dropped to the console. But it still froze there. I studied the output on the frozen screen, and there was nothing that helped with debugging at all. It was all routine sorta stuff.

This happens very randomly. In all my efforts to trace this issue to a common problem, I have failed. What's odd is that Pacman will freeze sometime during an operation. it will produce no debugging output. it just freezes and hangs there infinitely. I have to Control + C and restart the operation to continue. This is not as common as the namesake of this thread, however, but it is worth mentioning.

I've snooped around in /var/log after every crash, and I can't ever find any error or obvious problems. It seems as if the system is running great. However, as noted above, this last crash was odd (in comparison to the other ones) and did produce 3 lines in errors.log. I'm not sure if these errors actually apply to the crash though, as I didn't not know if it occurred right afterwards. All i can tell you is that these 3 lines are the only thing that is even relevant in the 10 or so times this has happened. Here they are:-

May  1 00:14:41 localhost kernel: [21397.163643] ata2.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6
May  1 00:14:41 localhost kernel: [21397.163676] ata2.00: cmd a0/00:00:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/a0 tag 0
May  1 00:14:41 localhost kernel: [21397.163679]          res 00/01:01:01:14:eb/00:00:00:00:00/00 Emask 0x2 (HSM violation)

SMART passes my disk with flying colors. No errors, all values are normal, nothing of alarm there.

I've done everything I know how to troubleshoot, but this one is over my head guys.

Please help me.

-- Andrew

Last edited by lupusarcanus (2011-05-01 06:27:26)

stlarch · 2011-05-01 06:37:17

You're gonna have to be more specific if you want any help. What DE/wm do you use? What kind of machine? etc. and anything else that would be relevant. Other than pacman, does it freeze when using a specific program?

lupusarcanus · 2011-05-01 06:47:11

stlarch wrote:

You're gonna have to be more specific if you want any help. What DE/wm do you use? What kind of machine? etc. and anything else that would be relevant. Other than pacman, does it freeze when using a specific program?

Sorry. I am using XFCE i686 on ext4, kernel is 2.6.38-ARCH.

It is a laptop computer from 2004. Specifically an HP Pavilion zv6130us. Here is some specifications:-
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ @ 2.0 GHz
512 MB DDR RAM
80 GB 4200 RPM IDE HDD
ATI Radeon Xpress 200M with 128 MB dedicated SidePort memory

Like I said, the lockups are very random. It does seem to happen most with Firefox, though I've had it happen with other programs open.
I'm not sure what else I can provide you that is relevant, but I'll try to add some more information.

uname -a

[andrew@sparta ~]$ uname -a
Linux sparta 2.6.38-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Apr 22 17:48:36 UTC 2011 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux

lsmod

[andrew@sparta ~]$ lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
cryptd                  6445  0 
aes_i586                6908  1 
aes_generic            25638  1 aes_i586
fuse                   56745  2 
ipv6                  241775  8 
arc4                    1086  2 
ecb                     1573  2 
radeon                861023  3 
b43                   275118  0 
ttm                    43957  1 radeon
mac80211              181766  1 b43
drm_kms_helper         23644  1 radeon
drm                   141490  5 radeon,ttm,drm_kms_helper
cfg80211              123549  2 b43,mac80211
i2c_algo_bit            4263  1 radeon
snd_seq_dummy           1095  0 
snd_seq_oss            24256  0 
snd_seq_midi_event      4416  1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq                40160  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device          4220  3 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
joydev                  7343  0 
snd_pcm_oss            33120  0 
snd_mixer_oss          12487  2 snd_pcm_oss
8139cp                 15851  0 
hp_wmi                  4617  0 
sparse_keymap           2468  1 hp_wmi
rfkill                 11894  2 cfg80211,hp_wmi
snd_atiixp             10267  2 
snd_ac97_codec         87314  1 snd_atiixp
ac97_bus                 778  1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm                58607  3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_atiixp,snd_ac97_codec
ohci_hcd               19364  0 
ssb                    39707  1 b43
snd_timer              15182  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
sdhci_pci               6718  0 
sdhci                  14805  1 sdhci_pci
firewire_ohci          24615  0 
yenta_socket           18422  0 
pcmcia                 30510  2 b43,ssb
ehci_hcd               34949  0 
snd                    42019  11 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_atiixp,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer
mmc_core               56683  3 b43,ssb,sdhci
tifm_7xx1               3542  0 
pcmcia_rsrc             8616  1 yenta_socket
ati_agp                 4449  0 
firewire_core          41741  1 firewire_ohci
8139too                17024  0 
shpchp                 22177  0 
i2c_piix4               7084  0 
soundcore               4858  2 snd
tifm_core               3633  1 tifm_7xx1
pcmcia_core             9762  3 yenta_socket,pcmcia,pcmcia_rsrc
crc_itu_t               1069  1 firewire_core
usbcore               113751  3 ohci_hcd,ehci_hcd
snd_page_alloc          5805  2 snd_atiixp,snd_pcm
processor              21396  0 
mii                     3246  2 8139cp,8139too
wmi                     7071  1 hp_wmi
ac                      2441  0 
battery                 8482  0 
thermal                 6403  0 
video                   9652  0 
psmouse                54703  0 
i2c_core               15688  5 radeon,drm_kms_helper,drm,i2c_algo_bit,i2c_piix4
sg                     20662  0 
pci_hotplug            21458  1 shpchp
button                  3858  0 
agpgart                21392  3 ttm,drm,ati_agp
k8temp                  2583  0 
evdev                   7086  7 
serio_raw               3358  0 
loop                   13767  0 
ext4                  304408  1 
mbcache                 4185  1 ext4
jbd2                   58650  1 ext4
crc16                   1069  1 ext4
sr_mod                 12668  0 
sd_mod                 24780  3 
cdrom                  30893  1 sr_mod
pata_acpi               2292  0 
pata_atiixp             2856  2 
libata                150313  2 pata_acpi,pata_atiixp
scsi_mod              105492  4 sg,sr_mod,sd_mod,libata

An occasional error I get using applications, namely mousepad:-

[andrew@sparta ~]$ sudo mp /var/log/errors.log 

(mousepad:3674): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_main_quit: assertion `main_loops != NULL' failed

If there is anything specific you want to know I will do my best to tell you as much as I can, as I fast as I can.

I appreciate your help.

stlarch · 2011-05-01 07:01:43

I'm not sure what to tell you. If you know about when it started and if you did anything around that time that might have caused it (like updates?) or something you installed? Maybe check your pacman log to see if it gives any clues.

lupusarcanus · 2011-05-01 07:07:20

stlarch wrote:

I'm not sure what to tell you. If you know about when it started and if you did anything around that time that might have caused it (like updates?) or something you installed? Maybe check your pacman log to see if it gives any clues.

I can't pinpoint where or when it started. It seems like this whole install (and also my last install, which had the same problems) is plagued by this issue.

This had been a very painful debugging process. Nothing makes any sense.

EDIT: The pacman logs show absolutely nada.

Last edited by lupusarcanus (2011-05-01 07:09:29)

unilx · 2011-05-01 09:06:11

I had a problem with my computer completley freezing up, nothing would work,not even ctrl+alt+backspace.It took me a little while to figure out it was my title bar causing the problem, once i changed that i had no more freeze up's.
I'm guessing it could be anyone of 1000 things causing your computer to freeze, but it's problay worth checking out anyway
1) System settings
2) Workspace apperance
3) Window decorations

Hyugga · 2011-05-01 14:34:47

Have you tried using some other desktop enviroment/window manager?
Can you show us your partitions?

lupusarcanus · 2011-05-01 15:29:11

Hyugga wrote:

Have you tried using some other desktop enviroment/window manager?
Can you show us your partitions?

I have tried using Compiz. The freezes seem to happen less when using Compiz (though this may be placebo).

[andrew@sparta ~]$ sudo fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders, total 156301488 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x94e494e4

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *          63   154304324    77152131   83  Linux
/dev/sda2       154304325   156296384      996030   82  Linux swap / Solaris

neurolysis · 2011-05-01 15:57:23

unilx wrote:

I had a problem with my computer completley freezing up, nothing would work,not even ctrl+alt+backspace.

It's perfectly normal for CAB not to function, it's been disabled for a long time now. It's controlled by the DontZap option, which defaults to 1.

lupusarcanus · 2011-05-01 18:55:16

Just had it happen again.

This time I was chatting in Pidgin.

elliott · 2011-05-01 19:49:02

The fact that it is so random leads me to believe it is a hardware problem. Have you successfully run any other OS on the system?

Try running Memtest86+ from a LiveCD.

I don't know about the zv series of HP laptops, but the dv series are notorious for motherboards dying, usually triggered by overheating.

lupusarcanus · 2011-05-01 19:58:13

Windows XP ran fine. I don't like Windows though...

lupusarcanus · 2011-05-01 20:41:24

I just ran memtest86+, and it passed with no errors. Doesn't look like it's my RAM, either.

cactus · 2011-05-01 21:14:45

"HSM violation" (according to google searches) seems to imply a buggy hard drive firmware, which apparently interacts poorly with newer linux kernels. This would be very hard to track down, since smart status wouldn't show it (hard drive is healthy, but firmware is buggy).

If you have another hard drive, you could try mirroring the data onto it and see if that solves the random crashing issues.
You could also try running off a live-cd for a while and see if you get similar freezes (eg. if no freeze than the likelihood is the HD is causing the problem -- since livecds dont run off the hard drive).

zertyz · 2011-05-02 02:54:17

lupusarcanus wrote:

It is a laptop computer from 2004. Specifically an HP Pavilion zv6130us. Here is some specifications:-
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ @ 2.0 GHz
512 MB DDR RAM
80 GB 4200 RPM IDE HDD
ATI Radeon Xpress 200M with 128 MB dedicated SidePort memory

I also have a Pavilion and it happens the same way with me.

First I thought it was a bug on the Intel Video Driver (mine uses the Intel GM45 card) because it happened with much more frequency when I had a second monitor connected on the VGA port configured to extend the desktop to the right of the LVDS -- see this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour … bug/760082

My hangs comes in 3 flavors, ordered by frequency:
1) The screen contents gets messy, with some parts blinking. This only happens when I have a second monitor connected;
2) The systems suddenly boots, like a fatal failure has been detected by the watchdog
3) The system goes to console with a backtrace dump, with varying troubled routine, and saying "scheduling while atomic"

In all cases the system hangs completely (no SysRq+Alt+b, not network access, no sound when rearing to my music) and the CAPS+NUMLOCK+SCRLOCK indicators start to blink.

I'm convinced it is a kernel bug, or a hardware bug not worked around by the kernel, since in my case it also happens with other distros when booting from the pendrive -- like Ubuntu and Sabayon. It doesn't seem to be an HD issue, but I didn't disabled it. Maybe I should give it a try.

Investigating the dmesg output, I see some messages complaining about a buggy BIOS, which led me to upgrade mine. Don't know if placebo, but I thought it got better, although definitely not solved.

I'll keep investigating...

edit: I found some possibly related post -- https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=117233 -- are you on wireless? My chip is a Realtek (not Broadcom), but I'll give a chance to wires back again.

[]'s
Luiz

Last edited by zertyz (2011-05-02 12:23:04)

rosstimson · 2011-05-20 20:56:00

I believe I have the same issue, I at first thought it was a hardware issue however I have run several diagnostics and all passed. Also other OSs have ran fine. My crashes are extremely random in both Gnome 3 and my preferred choice OpenBox. Quite often when a crash occurs my caps-lock and scroll-lock keys flash continuously.

uname -a

Linux ross-arch 2.6.39-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri May 20 11:33:59 CEST 2011 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux

lsmod

Module                  Size  Used by
fuse                   64618  3 
ipv6                  280626  10 
ext2                   62162  1 
arc4                    1402  2 
ecb                     2033  2 
rt2500usb              18089  0 
rt2x00usb               7965  1 rt2500usb
rt2x00lib              30790  2 rt2500usb,rt2x00usb
usbhid                 34084  0 
mac80211              205134  2 rt2x00usb,rt2x00lib
hid                    77987  1 usbhid
cfg80211              142273  2 rt2x00lib,mac80211
rfkill                 14810  1 cfg80211
nvidia              10496329  28 
firewire_ohci          28725  0 
snd_ctxfi              87288  2 
edac_core              35742  0 
firewire_core          48135  1 firewire_ohci
snd_pcm                71032  1 snd_ctxfi
snd_timer              18896  1 snd_pcm
snd                    55336  7 snd_ctxfi,snd_pcm,snd_timer
soundcore               6018  1 snd
snd_page_alloc          7017  2 snd_ctxfi,snd_pcm
sg                     24917  0 
ohci_hcd               21258  0 
k8temp                  3395  0 
ehci_hcd               38351  0 
i2c_nforce2             5088  0 
crc_itu_t               1321  1 firewire_core
forcedeth              52061  0 
processor              23608  0 
pcspkr                  1843  0 
button                  4366  0 
i2c_core               18917  2 nvidia,i2c_nforce2
edac_mce_amd           12983  0 
usbcore               136848  6 rt2500usb,rt2x00usb,usbhid,ohci_hcd,ehci_hcd
floppy                 57231  0 
evdev                   9306  7 
ext4                  363569  2 
mbcache                 5649  2 ext2,ext4
jbd2                   69164  1 ext4
crc16                   1321  1 ext4
sr_mod                 14279  0 
cdrom                  35657  1 sr_mod
sd_mod                 26739  5 
pata_amd               11035  0 
pata_acpi               3272  0 
sata_nv                21260  4 
libata                168421  3 pata_amd,pata_acpi,sata_nv
scsi_mod              126052  4 sg,sr_mod,sd_mod,libata

This is what I'm seeing in error log:

May 20 20:36:52 localhost kernel: [ 1701.119918] NVRM: Xid (0000:01:00): 13, 0000 e0019700 00004097 00001808 00000000 00000010
May 20 20:36:56 localhost kernel: [ 1705.143586] NVRM: Xid (0000:01:00): 13, 0000 e0019700 00004097 00001808 00000000 00000010
May 20 20:37:00 localhost kernel: [ 1709.169698] NVRM: Xid (0000:01:00): 13, 0000 e0019700 00004097 00001808 00000000 00000010
May 20 20:37:04 localhost kernel: [ 1713.216861] NVRM: Xid (0000:01:00): 13, 0000 e0019700 00004097 00001808 00000000 00000010
May 20 20:51:35 localhost /usr/sbin/crond[1045]: (CRON) INFO (Syslog will be used instead of sendmail.): No such file or directory
May 20 20:52:11 localhost pulseaudio[1409]: pid.c: Daemon already running.
May 20 20:54:53 localhost /usr/sbin/crond[1057]: (CRON) INFO (Syslog will be used instead of sendmail.): No such file or directory
May 20 20:55:15 localhost pulseaudio[1394]: pid.c: Daemon already running.
May 20 21:23:29 localhost /usr/sbin/crond[1057]: (CRON) INFO (Syslog will be used instead of sendmail.): No such file or directory
May 20 21:23:50 localhost pulseaudio[1394]: pid.c: Daemon already running.

Those kernel errors don't happen all the time though. I'm an Arch n00b but this seems really random and can happen regardless of what applications I'm using. VERY frustrating and hope someone can shed some light on this. I may be wrong but I'm sure this started happening more regularly with a recent kernel update.

lilsirecho · 2011-05-20 23:42:35

Perhaps the problem is related to the usb difficulties being posted by many users of intel wherein either inserting or booting with usb devices causes crashes.

It sounds much like the posts made concerning crashes and found to be kernel related and involving usb...possibly misidentifying the usb device and causing the system to crash.

zertyz · 2011-05-21 04:51:11

I'm still victim of this problem, although using the LTS kernel reduced the frequency a bit.

rosstimsom, do you have the opportunity to test your system with a second (vga) display connected on the right of the primary one? For me this increases the rate of the crashes by at least an order of magnitude. BTW, it happens with me since 2.6.37 (the first kernel I set up on this hardware).

lilsirecho, I indeed use many usb devices (connected to a hub). Although the crashes happen regardless of me poking something else into the usb ports, I'l give a try without any (external) USBs devices connected and report back here.

Thanks for the tips,
Luiz.

xdunlapx · 2011-05-23 03:45:18

Could the computer be overheating? I'd check the core temperatures. I had a problem where my acer would overheat and freeze then shut off spontaneously. I was finally able to get rid of it thank goodness. Something to look into though.

rosstimson · 2011-05-25 18:27:48

@zertyz Afraid I don't have 2nd screen to test with although I've tried the LTS kernel over the past couple of days and *fingers crossed* I haven't had a random crash as of yet.

@xdunlapx Don't think issue is overheating as other distros / OSs were fine; also I have temperatures displayed on LCD on front of tower, hottest I have seen CPU get to is 30°C.

flymster · 2011-07-14 16:16:18

Recently I experienced this bug. It is reproduced when I try to open some web-pages with Firefox. One of these is http://www.linguee.com/german-english/t … nisse.html Symptoms is a short two fold screen blinking followed with a hang up with no keyboard/mouse response. My machine is a laptop, I use no external video outputs. As far I know this problem is not solved yet, see for instance a related thread on gentoo forum: https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-8 … art-0.html

/var/log/errors.log right before I performed the hard reset:

...
Jul 13 22:24:45 workstation kernel: [44753.455294] NVRM: Xid (0000:01:00): 6, PE0001 
Jul 13 22:24:45 workstation kernel: [44753.576895] NVRM: Xid (0000:01:00): 6, PE0001

uname -a

Linux workstation 2.6.39-ck #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Jul 9 14:47:49 EDT 2011 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T8100 @ 2.10GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux

lsmod

Module                  Size  Used by
rfcomm                 33877  4 
uas                     7920  0 
usb_storage            43207  1 
bfq_iosched            28871  1 
vboxdrv              1763634  0 
cpufreq_ondemand        5996  0 
acpi_cpufreq            5665  1 
freq_table              2379  2 cpufreq_ondemand,acpi_cpufreq
mperf                   1235  1 acpi_cpufreq
bnep                    8917  2 
bluetooth             123663  10 rfcomm,bnep
oss_usb               122035  4 
oss_hdaudio           146111  10 
osscore               550892  4 oss_usb,oss_hdaudio
ext3                  124621  1 
jbd                    46344  1 ext3
fuse                   64810  13 
nvidia              11765485  32 
usbhid                 33860  0 
hid                    78179  1 usbhid
arc4                    1370  2 
ecb                     1937  2 
iwl4965               114815  0 
sg                     25045  0 
iwl_legacy             50782  1 iwl4965
joydev                  9671  0 
mac80211              204686  2 iwl4965,iwl_legacy
wmi                     8243  0 
firewire_ohci          28469  0 
firewire_core          48103  1 firewire_ohci
uhci_hcd               21907  0 
ehci_hcd               38351  0 
iTCO_wdt               12557  0 
usbcore               136208  7 uas,usb_storage,oss_usb,usbhid,uhci_hcd,ehci_hcd
cfg80211              144417  3 iwl4965,iwl_legacy,mac80211
rfkill                 14650  4 bluetooth,cfg80211
iTCO_vendor_support     1825  1 iTCO_wdt
crc_itu_t               1321  1 firewire_core
ir_lirc_codec           4243  0 
rc_rc6_mce              1372  0 
video                  10804  0 
lirc_dev                9567  1 ir_lirc_codec
serio_raw               4062  0 
thermal                 7535  0 
ac                      3129  0 
ir_sony_decoder         2179  0 
ite_cir                14871  0 
evdev                   9210  9 
ir_jvc_decoder          2273  0 
psmouse                52912  0 
r8169                  39131  0 
ir_rc6_decoder          2849  0 
ir_rc5_decoder          2273  0 
pcspkr                  1811  0 
intel_agp              10608  0 
i2c_i801                8051  0 
ir_nec_decoder          2657  0 
i2c_core               18681  2 nvidia,i2c_i801
mii                     3795  1 r8169
rc_core                14688  9 ir_lirc_codec,rc_rc6_mce,ir_sony_decoder,ite_cir,ir_jvc_decoder,ir_rc6_decoder,ir_rc5_decoder,ir_nec_decoder
battery                10353  0 
intel_gtt              13911  1 intel_agp
processor              23320  3 acpi_cpufreq
button                  4238  0 
ext4                  362978  2 
mbcache                 5585  2 ext3,ext4
jbd2                   69132  1 ext4
crc16                   1321  2 bluetooth,ext4
sd_mod                 26771  10 
sr_mod                 14471  0 
cdrom                  35945  1 sr_mod
ahci                   20665  7 
pata_acpi               3304  0 
libahci                18077  1 ahci
ata_piix               21773  0 
sata_sil24             11771  0 
libata                167653  5 ahci,pata_acpi,libahci,ata_piix,sata_sil24
scsi_mod              125860  6 uas,usb_storage,sg,sd_mod,sr_mod,libata

lspci

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 PCI Express Root Port (rev 03)
00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 03)
00:1a.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 (rev 03)
00:1a.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 (rev 03)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 03)
00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 3 (rev 03)
00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 4 (rev 03)
00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 5 (rev 03)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 03)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 03)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 03)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1 (rev 03)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev f3)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801HEM (ICH8M) LPC Interface Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801HBM/HEM (ICH8M/ICH8M-E) IDE Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801HBM/HEM (ICH8M/ICH8M-E) SATA AHCI Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 03)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G86 [GeForce 8600M GS] (rev a1)
04:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61)
05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 01)
06:00.0 Mass storage controller: Silicon Image, Inc. SiI 3531 [SATALink/SATARaid] Serial ATA Controller (rev 01)
07:04.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): O2 Micro, Inc. Firewire (IEEE 1394) (rev 02)

MoonSwan · 2011-07-14 18:15:34

I'm with Cactus on this problem. You might want to investigate getting a firmware upgrade for your hard drive. I had a Seagate last year that threatened to be bricked if certain conditions were met with a specific software issue. Seagate, to their credit, issued a firmware fix in about 3 days or so of the issue arising on the net. Check your hard drive's manufacturer and maybe see if they've issued a firmware update.

chemicalfan · 2011-07-15 10:16:08

Hmm, I'd have said it was CPU overheating, or faulty RAM. Have you run memtest?

Edit: I know you said other distros work, but it could be the way their memory is managed (different services/modules, that kind of stuff). You could try compiling a new kernel, in case there's some kind of bug

Last edited by chemicalfan (2011-07-15 10:17:41)

flymster · 2011-07-25 11:18:51

chemicalfan wrote:

Hmm, I'd have said it was CPU overheating, or faulty RAM. Have you run memtest?
Edit: I know you said other distros work, but it could be the way their memory is managed (different services/modules, that kind of stuff). You could try compiling a new kernel, in case there's some kind of bug

I checked the RAM with memtest with no errors. I monitor the CPU sensor regularly, so that cannot be a CPU overheating either.
However it looks like the issue is disappeared on my machine, since the nvidia driver had been updated a couple times. The system undergoes no lockups for two weeks.

PhotonX · 2011-07-27 14:40:32

I've experienced the same problem recently. Here's my story: Some days ago kernel 3.0 appeared in testing. I installed it and in the same day I edited the /boot/grub/menu.lst to include the apcm=force option (see http://www.webupd8.org/2011/06/linux-ke … -fix.html). On the next day I had several freezes (mouse and keyboard not working; if there was audio output when the freeze occurred, you get some sine sound) where only a hard reset helped.

At first, I thought that the boot option was the reason for the freezes, so I removed it. But it didn't help, so I downgraded the kernel back to 2.6.39. Still no luck: I just had a freeze again. Surprisingly, once I even got a freeze while the mainboard manufacturers logo screen (before Grub!). So I thing that this could be hardware related. But neither a short smart scan (the hard disk is quite new though) nor a memtest86 scan did give any errors. Also all the problems appeared after the "apcm option and kernel update day"... I'm quite confused, maybe somebody has an idea what the reason for the freezes could be?

I don't really know, where to search for the appropriate logs, the /var/log/errors.log is quite empty and the /var/log/everything.log seems not to contain any hints (at least there are no entries at the moment when the freeze occurred).

Last edited by PhotonX (2011-07-27 14:43:14)

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