Package Tester before Packages hit repo

mezoko · 2005-07-03 15:45:40

Hello. I think the arch community should should have a beta repo were all the base packages will go before they hit the main repo so if a package is bad it can be fixed. Like the procsys package. It just an idea.

phrakture · 2005-07-03 15:51:41

a) it's called the testing repo and has been there forever
b) the errors in the procps package were harmless... so who cares?

mezoko · 2005-07-03 15:58:12

phrakture wrote:

a) it's called the testing repo and has been there forever
b) the errors in the procps package were harmless... so who cares?

ME!! Because I wiped because I couldn't get internet on a custom kernel and I thought I majorly messed something up that why!

dtw · 2005-07-03 16:55:49

that's your own fault then! this isn't windows you know!

i personally think Judd did drop the ball a bit with the procps upgrade - he should have at least posted on the front page about the changes but i guess it had unforseen consequences for a lot of people.

still this is an isolated incident so lets not get over excited about it!

CyberTron · 2005-07-03 17:00:37

then that was more your fault, and not the maintainers....

EDIT: oh well, dibblethewrecker, you were faster than me...missed your post

Moo-Crumpus · 2005-07-03 17:58:00

... this isn't windows ... so all is excused? Not for me, sorry. Bad things are bad things, wether ms can do it even worse ore not.

dtw · 2005-07-03 18:16:04

ummm - not what I was saying at all - i was saying that wiping your installation is not a very linux way of dealing with things.

the procps was actually an incrediblely minor issue that confused a lot of people and could have been better introduced - nothing a few days of watching the forum doesn't solve, worse has happened in that past with less fuss!

Duke · 2005-07-03 22:56:14

Was the procps errors ever fixed? I know they're harmless but still, it's ugly to see during bootup. I haven't rebooted since I upgraded procps a while ago and can't now to check. I was just wondering if it was fixed, or if the user (i.e. me) has to "fix" it themselves.

CyberTron · 2005-07-03 23:00:35

as far as I know, it is going to be fixed, right now, you can do 2 things, either rename/remove the file sysctl.conf or outcomment the lines that are using your eth0 adapter (if I recall correctly)

phrakture · 2005-07-04 02:47:00

yes judd is planning on moving the sysctl call to rc.multi to fix the errors

dtw · 2005-07-04 07:52:02

where is the sysctl call? I posted a patch for one thinking there was not one - did i miss something?

Dreameen · 2005-07-04 10:33:48

phrakture wrote:

b) the errors in the procps package were harmless... so who cares?

How can you call something that breaks your internet connection harmless? It was harmless for *some*, but for others it screwed things completely. And not evertone is reading the forums regularly.

iphitus · 2005-07-04 10:50:29

Dreameen wrote:

phrakture wrote:
b) the errors in the procps package were harmless... so who cares?
How can you call something that breaks your internet connection harmless? It was harmless for *some*, but for others it screwed things completely. And not evertone is reading the forums regularly.

If loss of internet is not harmless, I believe this thread is for you:
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … highlight=

Moo-Crumpus · 2005-07-04 16:31:45

dibblethewrecker wrote:

ummm - not what I was saying at all - i was saying that wiping your installation is not a very linux way of dealing with things.

Ah, sorry, using my pidgin-d-english, I was fuzzed.

dtw · 2005-07-04 16:42:05

i take it you'd agree with what I said then?

Moo-Crumpus · 2005-07-04 17:37:03

fullack.

apeiro · 2005-07-05 00:41:01

Dreameen wrote:

phrakture wrote:
b) the errors in the procps package were harmless... so who cares?
How can you call something that breaks your internet connection harmless? It was harmless for *some*, but for others it screwed things completely. And not evertone is reading the forums regularly.

I don't read the forums much, perhaps you can help me out. Are there some posts around where the sysctl actually "broke" the internet for people?

Not to defend my oversights w.r.t procps and sysctl, but I'm just wondering. That sysctl should NOT have broken anything. As phrak said, the errors should be harmless. If in fact they did break something, I need to know right away so I can start investigating.

Thanks.

T-Dawg · 2005-07-05 00:58:09

apeiro wrote:

I don't read the forums much, perhaps you can help me out. Are there some posts around where the sysctl actually "broke" the internet for people?

http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … highlight=

Dreameen's last post here:
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … highlight=

Dreameen · 2005-07-05 01:08:53

Here are some links:

http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … ght=sysctl
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … ght=sysctl
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … ght=sysctl

I've also seen ppl complaing in irc. They couldn't connect to any site, even though they could ping these sites without problem. I know it sounds pretty weird, but after renaming /etc/sysctl.conf and rebooting, all the issues were gone...

I hope that helps you to find the malicious entry in sysctl.conf.[/url]

apeiro · 2005-07-05 01:18:23

Thanks guys.

mezoko · 2005-07-05 01:46:25

Yes this was my initial problem. This is why I made this post because I couldn' get on line. I don't read the forum much either so when people were clueless in irc that why I wiped figuring I majorly messed something up, but I noticed this was only a problem in a custom kernel

cactus · 2005-07-05 01:47:46

also, some of the comments seem a bit confusing. With some, it seems described as 0 turns the feature on, and in some it is 1.

for example

# Disables the magic-sysrq key
kernel.sysrq = 0

I think a description of what the key does, not what it is currently doing, makes more sense...

# 0/1 Disable/Enable magic-sysrq key
kernel.sysrq = 0

deficite · 2005-07-05 05:58:41

So that's what caused my problems? This morning I turned on my computer and couldn't get on the internet and I tried all kinds of stuff and eventually I just reformatted and reinstalled.

dtw · 2005-07-05 06:46:02

deficite!

tomk · 2005-07-05 10:51:10

deficite wrote:

So that's what caused my problems?

No - more likely the recent udev upgrade. Not that it matters now, after your Windoze-style solution.

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