The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

RetroX · 2011-09-01 17:27:08

xorg-server 1.11 is in [testing], and catalyst won't work with it. I think that an [xorg110] repo should be put up soon, because it'll only be a matter of time before it's in [extra].

insecticider · 2011-09-02 03:29:30

If I understand correctly, after you do a pacman -S catalyst catalyst-utils you need to install one of catalyst-daemon/generator/hook.

Assuming that information is correct I get a message stating that catalyst is in conflict with daemon/hook/utils and that I have to uninstall catalyst for one of those. Is there any way to get around this issue or am I doing something incorrectly?

Any help would be great, thanks!

Another issue. I have xfce4 installed when I go to Settings>ATI Catalyst Control Center it won't open. I assume it's for root users only? Would changing the permissions fix that?

Last edited by insecticider (2011-09-02 03:41:46)

securitybreach · 2011-09-02 03:36:50

insecticider wrote:

Another issue. I have xfce4 installed when I go to Settings>ATI Catalyst Control Center it won't open. I assume it's for root users only? Would changing the permissions fix that?

I would strongly suggest NOT changing the permissions. Simply open up a terminal and log in as root. Then launch the Control Center via the terminal. Much cleaner and less of a security risk.

RetroX · 2011-09-02 03:37:10

Actually, catalyst-utils is the base driver. catalyst-hook/daemon are different methods of automatically building the kernel module.

I personally prefer catalyst-hook, and I have catalyst-hook and catalyst-utils installed. I also have lib32-catalyst-utils installed because I run 64-bit Arch. catalyst conflicts with the hook and daemon because it includes the non-automatic script, I think.

insecticider · 2011-09-02 03:45:13

RetroX wrote:

Actually, catalyst-utils is the base driver. catalyst-hook/daemon are different methods of automatically building the kernel module.
I personally prefer catalyst-hook, and I have catalyst-hook and catalyst-utils installed. I also have lib32-catalyst-utils installed because I run 64-bit Arch. catalyst conflicts with the hook and daemon because it includes the non-automatic script, I think.

The issue is that pacman is generating an error that catalyst-hook/daemon/generator and catalyst are in conflict. Am I doing something wrong or is there some workaround? I don't see anything on the ATI wiki. Thanks for the help folks.

Ah so I can uninstall catalyst without issue? I thought catalyst was the driver and apparently it's catalyst-utils.

Thanks folks, it's resolved now.

Last edited by insecticider (2011-09-02 04:23:11)

insecticider · 2011-09-02 04:30:59

One more issue.

I'm having the suspend2ram issue as the wiki suggests. There was never a

resume=/dev/sdxX ro quiet

so I added the line(note, my menu.lst uses disks by uuid and not the sdXX convention) and the vga=0 and suspend2ram still isn't working.

Any ideas? Thanks.

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sumski · 2011-09-02 08:00:30

catalyst package is for Arch stock kernel. Daemon/generator/hook is for all kernels (both stock and custom). You will need one of those packages. Also, that line you added won't do nothing for suspending, it's for hibernating.

reflexing · 2011-09-02 19:33:15

$ yaourt -Suyy
:: Synchronizing package databases...

2011-09-03 01:28:19.509894 ERROR - CUID#6 - Download aborted. URI=http://catalyst.apocalypsus.net/repo/xorg110/x86_64/xorg110.db
Exception: [AbstractCommand.cc:303] errorCode=3 URI=http://catalyst.apocalypsus.net/repo/xorg110/x86_64/xorg110.db
  -> [HttpSkipResponseCommand.cc:211] errorCode=3 Resource not found

2011-09-03 01:28:19.510020 NOTICE - Download GID#1 not complete: //var/lib/pacman/sync/xorg110.db.part

Vi0L0, please, please correct the repo!

insecticider · 2011-09-02 20:33:57

sumski wrote:

catalyst package is for Arch stock kernel. Daemon/generator/hook is for all kernels (both stock and custom). You will need one of those packages. Also, that line you added won't do nothing for suspending, it's for hibernating.

Thanks for the clarification. Hibernate works, but suspend does not. Hmm. Thanks.

yell! · 2011-09-04 12:44:04

I have suspend working and
no hibernation
(amd/ati laptop)

added vga=0 but doesn't work

snack · 2011-09-04 16:00:48

Some days ago I tried to make video acceleration work and I found that using linux-ck from AUR made both mplayer and vlc crash when activating acceleration; stock kernel worked fine. Today I tried to recompile vlc and libva under linux-ck, but that didn't solve the problem. I think that it would be necessary to recompile xvba-video, but as far as I know it is closed source.
Did anyone have troubles in making video acceleration work with a custom kernel and managed to resolve them? Thanks.

leniviy · 2011-09-07 10:34:32

catalyst-total contains patched switchlib* scripts. Does it mean that someone actually got switchable graphics working with fglrx?
If so, what's the correct BIOS setting, 'switchable' or 'discrete'?
Don't you have 'invalid bios signature' error, when it's set to 'switchable'?
Doesn't X hang, when it's set to 'discrete' and switchlibglx set to intel ?

In my case X can only start when switchlibglx set to amd and 'discrete' is set in bios.

ubertaco · 2011-09-07 14:45:02

I'm running a Thinkpad Edge with the Mobility Radeon HD4200 and I'd like to get a bit better performance out of my card (I'll be honest -- it's mostly for Minecraft and the Humble Indie Bundles.)

Currently I'm using the open-source drivers (glxinfo reports that my OpenGL renderer is Gallium 0.4 on AMD RS880). I notice the ATI Catalyst article is flagged out of date; in light of this, I had a few questions about the current state of the Catalyst drivers:

1.) Is KMS supported by the Catalyst drivers?
1a.) Is KMS support really all that significant? If KMS is still not supported by Catalyst, do I lose much of anything in the switch?
2.) How's the powersaving? I *finally* somehow have resume from suspend working with the open-source drivers (honestly I don't know what I did to make it work. I just tried about a hojillion guides and nothing worked, then one day it started working. I suspect a pacman -Syu helped.)
3.) Is the switch worth it? That is, will I create more problems than I solve by going with the proprietary drivers? (I'm not interested in philosophical OSS vs Proprietary answers here; I'm a pragmatist primarily.)

Thanks.

sumski · 2011-09-07 15:13:08

KMS is used only with OSS drivers. Powersaving is far better with catalyst (at least with with my mobility 3650), infact it's only reason why i still use catalyst.
EDIT:
suspend is working without any issue

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ubertaco · 2011-09-07 18:03:21

Awesome -- I'll give Catalyst a spin this evening.

EDIT: Got it installed. Minecraft is still quite slow; which is odd, since it runs acceptably under Windows on the same machine. C'est la vie. At least my powersaving is allegedly better now (haven't confirmed that)

Last edited by ubertaco (2011-09-08 02:33:24)

raymondcal · 2011-09-08 15:39:43

Hi !
Do you know when the driver will be ready for Gnome3 ?
The display works fine with KDE4, but absolutely not with Gnome3 – it flickers all the time, and I don’t know how to repair that.

atanas · 2011-09-08 16:13:22

@raymondcal - check this: GNOME 3 Shell and fglrx fixed in next driver!

b0uncyfr0 · 2011-09-16 10:06:23

Am i the only one getting hard-locks with 4.7.1 and watching videos using vaapi?? Its bloody frustrating that AMD opened up their drivers and their still this terrible. Im consideing selling my 6950 and getting an nvidia card. Yep their closed sources, but they work excellently.

Vi0L0 · 2011-09-18 15:28:56

b0uncyfr0 wrote:

Am i the only one getting hard-locks with 4.7.1 and watching videos using vaapi?? Its bloody frustrating that AMD opened up their drivers and their still this terrible. Im consideing selling my 6950 and getting an nvidia card. Yep their closed sources, but they work excellently.

Which version of xvba-video are you using - 7.8 or 8.0? I recommand 7.8. Sure 8.0 is now open source but it is crippled and not maintained afaik because there's no person with needed knowledge.
I am afraid that with time and new radeons releases problems with vaapi will get worse and worse...

Vi0L0 · 2011-09-18 15:46:30

Lately i noticed some strange thing...
I moved root partition / into other disk (in fact into raid0 disk, /boot and others partitions stayed on old disk), and everything went fine except that while start kernel loaded radeon module (+ other needed modules, like drm_kms_helper) so X could not start with fglrx...
radeon module was loaded though i got vga= kernel option, and kernel used this option cuz screen resolution was changed and was fine. I had to manually blacklist radeon to get fglrx to work. I was using 3.1-rc5 kernel when this happened. Anybody else had to blacklist radeon?
Edit: Now on 3.1-rc6 i removed radeon from blacklist and it worked fine, so maybe there was some problem with -rc5, anyway nevermind.

Last edited by Vi0L0 (2011-09-18 16:05:25)

snack · 2011-09-18 16:29:27

Vi0L0 wrote:

Lately i noticed some strange thing...
I moved root partition / into other disk (in fact into raid0 disk, /boot and others partitions stayed on old disk), and everything went fine except that while start kernel loaded radeon module (+ other needed modules, like drm_kms_helper) so X could not start with fglrx...
radeon module was loaded though i got vga= kernel option, and kernel used this option cuz screen resolution was changed and was fine. I had to manually blacklist radeon to get fglrx to work. I was using 3.1-rc5 kernel when this happened. Anybody else had to blacklist radeon?
Edit: Now on 3.1-rc6 i removed radeon from blacklist and it worked fine, so maybe there was some problem with -rc5, anyway nevermind.

A quite similar issue happened to me some weeks ago. I was trying to troubleshoot some issue related to KDE and I tried to install open driver. It didn't work so I removed it and reinstalled catalyst, but then kernel began to automatically load radeon module. I had to blacklist it to make it work again. I didn't investigate since I was busy with my KDE problem, but evidently it is more comon than I thought...

yell! · 2011-09-19 17:55:57

hi!
I have a minor issue with catalyst: I can't switch from HD4200 to HD5470.
(laptop with amd fusion technology). I read on the net that from 11.6, switching capability is fully working (previous X restart)

The first catalyst install, on my laptop, was done with 11.5
now I have 11.8, upgraded via yaourt.

If I run AMDCCLE, I see "catalyst install version: 11.5"
why?
I tried to reinstall via yaourt but nothing changed.

What version do I have?
Suggestions?

atanas · 2011-09-19 18:14:54

Hi yell!
Here is the solution:

amdcccle is showing different catalyst's version
It's because information about version is stored in /etc/ati/amdpcsdb file. This file is created while first run of X/DE by freshly installed catalyst, and later it's not updated. Solution: kill your X/DE, then remove /etc/ati/amdpcsdb, restart your X/DE, and then set up amdcccle.

yell! · 2011-09-19 18:50:25

thank you!
so my switching problem is not related to catalyst 11.5 ^^

Rixx · 2011-09-20 13:01:29

Do you have TearFreeDesktop option in amdcccle? Because I don't and I think, it causes my problems with video flickering. I tried add it manually to xorg.conf, but in /var/log/Xorg.log.0 I have:

(WW) fglrx (0): Option "EnableTearFreeDesktop" is not used

Any Ideas?

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