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#1 2011-09-01 17:00:44

dkuyp11
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Registered: 2011-09-01
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KDE 4.7 Installation questions

After reading the wikis on installing KDE, I discovered a surprising situation. KDE 4.7 runs just fine without most of the modifications to startup scripts. In fact Linux run level 3 starts KDE without any problems. I did need to add dbus to the rc.conf daemons list. Invoking KDM as root at the prompt is all I need. Then. after installing the Arch Nvidia packages, it seems my 3D performance may be higher than in Windows.

So the question is, why leave all those unnecessary script modifications in the wikis? I tweaked for a couple days trying to modify scripts until I just ran kdm at the prompt.

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#2 2011-09-01 21:17:06

StenM
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Registered: 2011-07-03
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Re: KDE 4.7 Installation questions

I'm not really sure what you are talking about. If you mean KDE-Arch Wiki at:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/KDE
there are only three simple things to do:
-install kde
-setup dbas in /etc/rc.conf
-change init to 5 in /etc/inittab [preferable method to start kdm]

Why don't you use just simply run level 5 to ran kdm?

The rest is optional - configuration. If you have any problem with GUI setup (normally most of the stuff works out of the box and it's getting better and better) you have some chance to fix it manually, but first you have to know what and where. All those unnecessary script modifications are useful at least for someone, so it's better to have it rather than not. It's also difference if you configure only one or many computers.

S-

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#3 2011-09-06 05:35:33

yngwin
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Re: KDE 4.7 Installation questions

StenM wrote:

-change init to 5 in /etc/inittab [preferable method to start kdm]

Can someone explain to me why this is preferable? It seems to me that the standard method is to add kdm to your DAEMONS in /etc/rc.conf …

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#4 2011-09-06 05:50:10

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Re: KDE 4.7 Installation questions

For one thing,you can influence the runlevel in the command line passed to the kernel from Grub.  By directing the system to boot to level 3, rather than to the default level 5 suggested by StenM, you can cause the system to boot, but not start the display manager.  This is very handy if something goes wrong with the display manager or its configuration.

Using the Daemon array, you lose the ability to prevent it starting it boot with doing contortions.


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#5 2011-09-06 09:27:03

gnumdk
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Re: KDE 4.7 Installation questions

>Using the Daemon array, you lose the ability to prevent it starting it boot with doing contortions.

kernel /boot/vmlinuz-linux root=/dev/md0 ro quiet init=/bin/bash

You don't loose anything wink

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#6 2011-09-06 13:06:31

ewaller
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Re: KDE 4.7 Installation questions

gnumdk wrote:

kernel /boot/vmlinuz-linux root=/dev/md0 ro quiet init=/bin/bash

You don't loose anything wink

Those were the contortions of which I spake. That is not a very useful environment, save for removing the login manager from the DAEMONS array ant then rebooting.  Init 3, however, brings you up into a fully functional, console based system.


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#7 2011-09-08 13:00:47

karper
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Re: KDE 4.7 Installation questions

I prefer the init 3 method (starting kdm as a daemon). We already modify rc.conf during installation. There's no need to touch /etc/inittab if you don't have to and besides, you can start/stop/restart kdm just like any other daemon. It's cleaner and more elegant.

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#8 2011-09-08 13:08:20

ewaller
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Re: KDE 4.7 Installation questions

vive la différence


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