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Jankosevic

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Registered: 2008-07-06

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Gnome 3.2 Software Updates fully compatible with pacman?

Hello,

I was just wondering if the app "Software Updates" from Gnome 3.2 should be used by Archers on their machine?
What kind of commands does it use in fact? It should be pacman since it would not detect new software otherwise?

Thank you very much!

ngoonee

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Registered: 2009-03-17

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Re: Gnome 3.2 Software Updates fully compatible with pacman?

Hello,

I was just wondering if the app "Software Updates" from Gnome 3.2 should be used by Archers on their machine?
What kind of commands does it use in fact? It should be pacman since it would not detect new software otherwise?

Thank you very much!

I'm pretty sure it's not meant to be used on an Arch system.

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Jankosevic

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Registered: 2008-07-06

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Re: Gnome 3.2 Software Updates fully compatible with pacman?

That was also my idea, but how does it detect the reps and new packages for arch then when it is not using pacman?
Sounds strange to me..

zenlord

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Registered: 2006-05-24

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Re: Gnome 3.2 Software Updates fully compatible with pacman?

I think it works with packagekit, and packagekit is built in archlinux with dependencies on pacman:
http://www.archlinux.org/packages/commu … ackagekit/

I think it should work to update your system with this. But I've never tried it (and am unable to do so now).

vlc

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Registered: 2011-04-12

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Re: Gnome 3.2 Software Updates fully compatible with pacman?

I have tried it before (version 3.0) and it works very well with arch. But somehow I still prefer the cli of pacman.

jorchube

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Registered: 2009-04-05

Posts: 57

Re: Gnome 3.2 Software Updates fully compatible with pacman?

It works quite well (update, install, remove... etc), uses alpm as backend, ist fast (obviously not as fast as pacman), and even shows the post installation messages.

http://www.packagekit.org/pk-matrix.html

And by installing gnome-settings-daemon-updates it warns you on new updates available (hourly, daily, weekly, on login... etc)

Last edited by jorchube (2011-10-03 10:07:31)

Heavy Rain

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Registered: 2011-09-21

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Re: Gnome 3.2 Software Updates fully compatible with pacman?

and even shows the post installation messages.

How would you do that? It never shows any terminal messages for me, and that's one of the reasons why I'm never using it...
So I'd really like to know where this can be set

jorchube

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Registered: 2009-04-05

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Re: Gnome 3.2 Software Updates fully compatible with pacman?

Well, I've noticed it since gnome 3.0. Those post-install tips are shown as gnome-shell notifications. No need to activate them or doing anything special.

By the way, It is possible to make it uninstall unneeded dependencies (a la pacman -Rcs), by checking:

/org/gnome/packagekit/enable-autoremove

in dconf-editor

Heavy Rain

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Registered: 2011-09-21

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Re: Gnome 3.2 Software Updates fully compatible with pacman?

Okay thanks, I guess it only works with gnome-shell then.
I forgot to mention that I'm using the fallback mode and it doesn't seem to show any notifications there

jorchube

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Registered: 2009-04-05

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Re: Gnome 3.2 Software Updates fully compatible with pacman?

Okay thanks, I guess it only works with gnome-shell then.
I forgot to mention that I'm using the fallback mode and it doesn't seem to show any notifications there

I think the notifications are standard, cross-desktop compatible stuff, etc. Have you installed notification-daemon?

Heavy Rain

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Registered: 2011-09-21

Posts: 15

Re: Gnome 3.2 Software Updates fully compatible with pacman?

I think the notifications are standard, cross-desktop compatible stuff, etc. Have you installed notification-daemon?

Yes, notification-daemon is installed and notifications for other programs are displayed perfectly fine. The problem is that I don't have a gnome-shell capable PC right now, so I don't know if it would work with that...

But anyway, this is no big deal for me. If the problem remains with gnome-shell in the future and it bothers me too much, I'll just open a new thread

Thanks for your help so far!

mar04

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Registered: 2010-02-08

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Re: Gnome 3.2 Software Updates fully compatible with pacman?

Wow, it's really fast. In Fedora it was always so slow, must be yum's fault. I don't understand why don't they rewrite it in C.