Would people prefer that there by default be a Mozilla menu entry in the GNOME menues if Mozilla is installed, or that anyone who wants a menu entry will have to make their own?
Would it be in the mozilla package or a gnome package?
I don't care too much, but I'd rather not have an /opt/gnome/.../desktop directory on my machine if I don't have gnome installed.
Well, there are 4 ways to do it -
A) mozilla and other "popular non-gnome apps" drop a menu entry in /opt/gnome/share applications.
B) gnome installs an icon for it on its own, whether or not you actually have it
C) there is a simple little package that you can install to drop in the menu item. Perhaps this single package could have menu entries for all "popular non-gnome apps", i.e. gnome-menu-entries or something.
D) we could come up with a place for storing menu entries. menu entries and vfolders are an emerging freedesktop.org standard, meaning that kde/gnome/xfce/gnustep/etc will (or should) support loading the same menu data. We could have a /usr/share/applications (or /usr/X11R6/menu, or whatever), and gnome/kde could merely install a symlink to that. GNOME-apps would go in their own directory, kde apps in their own, and non-gnome/kde apps could put entries to the global location. Just so long as we don't go pull a Mandrake or Debian (i.e., a menu entry for every existant app, shared across all desktops/wms) it should stay quite uncluttered/unbloated. Only relevant, popular X11 apps should go in there, of course.
D is assuming we want menu entries for apps besides just Mozilla. There are tons of non-gnome apps that I, and others, use in GNOME every day (at least, a lot of popular gtk-only apps, like gaim/gkrellm/xine/etc.), so I'd like to see a simple, non-bloated, standard of way of giving users these menu entries. But that's me. ~,^ If that's not the way things are decided to go, I guess I'd recommend C for cleanliness.
What thinks ye?
i have gnome installed but never use it. When I have booted into it I noticed blank menus. This was a bit of a surprise because in my debian/libranet days debian added all that poop to the menus. While this was nice there were a ton of entries in the menus that i never needed or wanted. persoanlly i have come to like being able to edit my own menus and i suppose if i knew what file to edit in gnome and i actually used gnome i would prefer to add the entries myself.
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Hmm, this would make a good case for choice C in my suggestions - you wouldn't have to install that package, and you'd get no menues.
Again, I am not proposing we do what debian does - every single app on your machine, even non-X apps, are required to have a menu entry in their system. *shudder*
One thing to keep in mind is that gnome has sub-par menu editing. It was just added in the most recent release, is still awkward, and adding sub-menues to the main menu is still buggy. It's possible to do it all hand-editing .desktop files, but I don't know if that's an acceptable method for a desktop environment.
If we don't want mozilla there, tho, that's OK. ^,^
well like i say it matters not to me really as i don't use gnome nor do i even know how to edit its menus i would likely just use gkrellm with gkrellmlaunch if i was in gnome.
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