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#1 2011-01-19 08:27:41

orlfman
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[SOLVED]xfce 4.8 and hal

Hey all!

I just recently did a fresh install of Arch Linux on my main desktop, and right now I am currently trying to install xfce 4.8 but I noticed its trying to pull in hal. I thought Xfce migrated off of hal to using GIO/GVFS/Thunar-Volman? I asked in #xfce irc channel and they said that xfce 4.8 doesn't need hal any more. So I am really confused. I was hoping to not needing hal on my system any more lol.

Also, do I still need gamin installed?

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#2 2011-01-19 08:30:09

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Re: [SOLVED]xfce 4.8 and hal

just look which package from that list require hal. is simple, pacman -Qi hal after installing xfce4


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#3 2011-01-19 09:08:19

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Re: [SOLVED]xfce 4.8 and hal

thunar-vfs is deprecated. But it's still in the xfce group because the repository is not managed carefully.

thunar-vfs is a dependency of squeeze and xfburner.


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#4 2011-01-19 09:17:22

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Re: [SOLVED]xfce 4.8 and hal

Oh, I see xfce is still pulling in thunar-vfs =/ I read in another topic that it needs gvfs/thunar-volman but I noticed its not pulling in any of those. So now I am wondering if its pulling in everything it needs. What does xfce need?

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#5 2011-01-19 10:43:06

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Re: [SOLVED]xfce 4.8 and hal

xfce group shouldn't need hal anymore. xfce-goodies xfburn/squeeze needs it through thunar-vfs. if there's something broken file a bug.

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#6 2011-01-19 11:19:06

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Re: [SOLVED]xfce 4.8 and hal

so, thunar-vfs need hal....

i read PKGBUILD of it and i see

--with-volume-manager=hal \

i can switch hal with udisk or something like ?


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#7 2011-01-19 12:04:47

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Re: [SOLVED]xfce 4.8 and hal

The reason xfce4 group doesn't pull in gvfs is because it is listed as an optional dependency. Technically, not everyone need Thunar to handle devices and network shares. Thunar-volman, I think is in the xfce4-goodies group.

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#8 2011-01-19 17:52:57

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Re: [SOLVED]xfce 4.8 and hal

BTW heres a bug already about the xfce4 group and thunar-vfs:

https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/22475

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#9 2011-01-20 04:01:50

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Re: [SOLVED]xfce 4.8 and hal

Is there a way to block xfce4 from pulling in thunar-vfs for we don't get hal? I just want to use gio/gvfs/udisks/udev/thunar-volman. For the time being, I did an openbox install with thunar and so far thunar rocks with gvfs. Fast mounting/unmounting.

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#10 2011-01-20 04:03:38

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Re: [SOLVED]xfce 4.8 and hal

The bug was recently fixed so downloading xfce4 should no longer pull in thunar-vfs.

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#11 2011-01-20 04:27:02

orlfman
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Re: [SOLVED]xfce 4.8 and hal

anonymous_user wrote:

The bug was recently fixed so downloading xfce4 should no longer pull in thunar-vfs.

Ah, ty. I will try pulling in xfce again then :]

EDIT:
Just updated my repositories and its still trying to pull in thunar-vfs and hal :[

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#12 2011-01-20 05:04:59

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Re: [SOLVED]xfce 4.8 and hal

Change to an up-to-date mirror and do pacman -Syy. When I do pacman -Sg xfce4, I do not get thunar-vfs in the results.

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#13 2011-01-20 05:17:30

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Re: [SOLVED]xfce 4.8 and hal

anonymous_user wrote:

Change to an up-to-date mirror and do pacman -Syy. When I do pacman -Sg xfce4, I do not get thunar-vfs in the results.


Ah, ty. I changed my mirror and now its not pulling in thunar-vfs anymore :] Thanks!

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#14 2011-01-20 12:56:39

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Re: [SOLVED]xfce 4.8 and hal

Right now thunar-vfs is required by squeeze and xfburn... is it right? or they wouldn't depend on it?

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