XFCE update breaks removable devices feature

legolas558 · 2011-01-30 13:24:58

Hello there,

I have read many topics about this but can't really get a hold of what's the issue here. Can somebody please make a summary?

I have thunar-vfs 1.2.0-2 but when plugging a mass storage device I no more get the relevant icons on the desktop. If I install gvfs then I get this feature restored but when trying to mount it I get 20 seconds of delay, then an error and finally the partition mounted!

I am launching the session this way:

exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch startxfce4

Nothing useful in dmesg, except the normal log lines for "Attached SCSI removable disk"

skunktrader · 2011-01-30 15:11:06

legolas558 wrote:

I have thunar-vfs 1.2.0-2 but when plugging a mass storage device I no more get the relevant icons on the desktop. If I install gvfs then I get this feature restored but when trying to mount it I get 20 seconds of delay, then an error and finally the partition mounted!

What is the error message?

legolas558 · 2011-01-30 15:31:35

skunktrader wrote:

legolas558 wrote:
I have thunar-vfs 1.2.0-2 but when plugging a mass storage device I no more get the relevant icons on the desktop. If I install gvfs then I get this feature restored but when trying to mount it I get 20 seconds of delay, then an error and finally the partition mounted!
What is the error message?

I can no more reproduce that scenario, I remember it was something about dbus.

But now after installing gvfs I get an error message box with:

Unable to mount "partition_label"
Not authorized.

And nothing is mounted after it.

wonder · 2011-01-30 15:35:11

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=112637

litemotiv · 2011-01-30 15:37:19

Please continue in the thread wonder linked to, closing.

Inxsible · 2011-01-31 17:49:48

Re-opening as it is brought to notice that the issues are not related.

nstoyanov · 2011-01-31 20:45:33

Posting my solution from the other thread:

I think I figured out the problem of not being able to mount removable devices! The wiki suggestion to put "dbus-launch" in .xinitrc is the culprit, at least in my case. I have dbus in rc.d, and in .xinitrc I have only "exec ck-launch-session startxfce4." Everything works as expected, even the weather plugin (which would mess up if "dbus-launch" is in .xinitrc as well). Removing "dbus-launch" from .xinitrc also speeds up the start time of Xfce significantly! smile

Good luck.

legolas558 · 2011-02-01 21:07:29

I also have dbus in rc.d but for me it's absolutely the same if I put dbus-launch or not in .xinitrc.

No removable device icon is ever displayed

legolas558 · 2011-02-03 10:33:54

If somebody would explain me how the entire stack works I could try to narrow down the problem myself.

But I have no clues as I can't see any error or anything else. To begin, is it a dbus issue or an udev issue? The interface code is all inside thunar-volman?

manouchk · 2011-02-03 15:02:13

Here, I cannot get access to mass storage devices anymore. I'm not using xfce so the problem maybe more general. Maybe we missed some changes in the automatic way the mass storage is treated?
Maybe something changed if a new kernel is installed??

Here my usb mass storage device looks like they are only acessible through root:
crw-rw-r-- 1 root root 189, 3 3 févr. 12:45 /dev/bus/usb/001/004

I think that the groups should not be root. I don't remember what it should be. Maybe we need to write a new udev rule?
(Is udev still used?)

legolas558 · 2011-02-03 19:50:46

manouchk wrote:

Here, I cannot get access to mass storage devices anymore. I'm not using xfce so the problem maybe more general. Maybe we missed some changes in the automatic way the mass storage is treated?
Maybe something changed if a new kernel is installed??
Here my usb mass storage device looks like they are only acessible through root:
crw-rw-r-- 1 root root 189, 3 3 févr. 12:45 /dev/bus/usb/001/004
I think that the groups should not be root. I don't remember what it should be. Maybe we need to write a new udev rule?
(Is udev still used?)

Here here here...I also suppose it's udev's fault, because the mass storage devices should belong to storage group!
But I need some other pointer for a solution...

Anyway I am using a custom 2.6.38-rc3 but it's the same with Arch Linux stock kernel

manouchk · 2011-02-05 01:09:48

in /etc/udev/rules.d/, I just have:

10-network.rules 75-cd-aliases-generator.rules.optional 9-cdrom.rules
53-EOS1000D.rules 75-persistent-net-generator.rules.optional

Nothing for mass storage. May it have been deleted by some upgrade?

legolas558 · 2011-02-05 12:37:49

There's no point at continuing this discussion here, I have seen much unconfirmed information coming through as "true". I have started the discussion at XFCE forums, they possibly have more knowledge of the internals:

http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=20774

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XFCE update breaks removable devices feature

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