Yapan - another notifier

otsug · 2011-02-25 17:37:10

forkboy wrote:

For what it's worth, I would love to just see a notification and the red ghost when updates are available, not an animation. I do like the pacman chomping animation when it's syncing, as it's a lot less distracting and I only have it set for every hour.

You already can do that, you can change the update gif to a png or svg, like this http://www.clker.com/cliparts/f/8/6/3/1 … svg.hi.png, and set to 60 minutes in settings...

forkboy · 2011-02-27 00:14:15

Can you make it so that it doesn't notify for updates of packages that are listed in IgnorePkg in /etc/pacman.conf?

otsug · 2011-02-27 00:32:13

forkboy wrote:

Can you make it so that it doesn't notify for updates of packages that are listed in IgnorePkg in /etc/pacman.conf?

Oo, probably this is a pacman problem, I only call the pacman, so I don't have that kind of control, I don't know if this behavior is the pacman design, I think is better to ask to the pacman developers...

chr0nik · 2011-03-21 15:47:23

This command should launch Xfce's Terminal, but it doesn't - at least not from within Yapan. It does work if I just try it from a command line.

dbus-launch terminal --hold --command='bash -c "%1; echo && echo --- Finished ---"'

In lieu of that, I'm just using xterm for now with this command:

dbus-launch xterm -hold -e bash -c "%1; echo && echo --- Finished ---"

This is a slick little tool you've built. My only question is why does it have to use dbus-launch to invoke a terminal? That seems to be creating a new session message bus each time I use Yapan to run an update. The only way to terminate the extra instances of dbus-daemon is to explicitly kill them. And yes, dbus starts at boot, I have a session bus running before Yapan even starts and I have a DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS environment variable set.

Last edited by chr0nik (2011-03-21 16:59:22)

keenerd · 2011-03-21 16:50:36

Please don't use "sudo pacman -Sy". It is dangerous and can easily lead to all sorts of trouble. Much safer is to use the following:

# Setup
mkdir -p /tmp/localsync
ln -s /var/lib/pacman/local /tmp/localsync &> /dev/null
# Call this regularly
fakeroot pacman -Syy --dbpath /tmp/localsync/ &> /dev/null
pacman -Qqu --dbpath /tmp/localsync/ | wc -l

Does not need root and does not risk serious breakage.

Last edited by keenerd (2011-03-21 16:51:45)

otsug · 2011-03-23 19:56:03

keenerd wrote:

Please don't use "sudo pacman -Sy". It is dangerous and can easily lead to all sorts of trouble. Much safer is to use the following:
# Setup
mkdir -p /tmp/localsync
ln -s /var/lib/pacman/local /tmp/localsync &> /dev/null
# Call this regularly
fakeroot pacman -Syy --dbpath /tmp/localsync/ &> /dev/null
pacman -Qqu --dbpath /tmp/localsync/ | wc -l
Does not need root and does not risk serious breakage.

Wow, that is nice, I only have time to test this in the end of week, but if works without the need of sudo, I will include this by default for sure in the new version. Thank you.

forkboy · 2011-03-24 09:52:31

keenerd wrote:

Please don't use "sudo pacman -Sy". It is dangerous and can easily lead to all sorts of trouble.

Can you explain why?

keenerd · 2011-03-24 12:16:54

Why -Sy is bad: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 58#p802658

If you want to get a warning about -Sy ing on a stale system, check out Pacmatic.

otsug · 2011-03-27 18:34:33

chr0nik wrote:

This command should launch Xfce's Terminal, but it doesn't - at least not from within Yapan. It does work if I just try it from a command line.
dbus-launch terminal --hold --command='bash -c "%1; echo && echo --- Finished ---"'
In lieu of that, I'm just using xterm for now with this command:
dbus-launch xterm -hold -e bash -c "%1; echo && echo --- Finished ---"
This is a slick little tool you've built. My only question is why does it have to use dbus-launch to invoke a terminal? That seems to be creating a new session message bus each time I use Yapan to run an update. The only way to terminate the extra instances of dbus-daemon is to explicitly kill them. And yes, dbus starts at boot, I have a session bus running before Yapan even starts and I have a DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS environment variable set.

Sorry, I only see your post today... I don't use XFCE so I don't know why the terminal does not work for you, I use dbus-launch in KDE because when I call konsole direct the command open in a new tab instead of new window, if this not occurs to you, you can delete the dbus-launch, in KDE 4.6.1 with konsole 2.6.1 apparently the dbus-launch is not necessary anymore. Thank you.

Edit: The problem persists if there is already a konsole open, and I call for konsole in yapan the konsole does not open, but if I use dbus-launch works...

keenerd wrote:

Please don't use "sudo pacman -Sy". It is dangerous and can easily lead to all sorts of trouble. Much safer is to use the following:
# Setup
mkdir -p /tmp/localsync
ln -s /var/lib/pacman/local /tmp/localsync &> /dev/null
# Call this regularly
fakeroot pacman -Syy --dbpath /tmp/localsync/ &> /dev/null
pacman -Qqu --dbpath /tmp/localsync/ | wc -l
Does not need root and does not risk serious breakage.

Works, very nice, explain one thing, I am new to Linux, the command:

ln -s /var/lib/pacman/local /tmp/localsync &> /dev/null

create a symbolic link to pacman/local in localsync right? so this link is for update the database of pacman too? and you are using pacman -Syy because the explanation in this link: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 58#p802658 ?

and did you know a safe way to call pacman -Su without the sudo too? Something like:

konsole --nofork --noclose -e bash -c "su -c 'pacman -Su; echo && echo --- Finished ---'"

Last edited by otsug (2011-03-28 01:40:22)

Doorbreath · 2011-04-23 12:57:57

otsug wrote:

Wow, that is nice, I only have time to test this in the end of week, but if works without the need of sudo, I will include this by default for sure in the new version. Thank you.

And when's that gonna be?

otsug · 2011-04-23 13:17:45

Doorbreath wrote:

otsug wrote:
Wow, that is nice, I only have time to test this in the end of week, but if works without the need of sudo, I will include this by default for sure in the new version. Thank you.
And when's that gonna be?

Sorry I don't know, I just started in my first job and my exams at college started too, but you already can use the fakeroot with the current yapan... just change the commands in settings, because that I made yapan with many configurations.

akurei · 2011-04-23 20:46:57

Awesome!

Cookie · 2011-04-25 09:04:06

Brilliant!

laurion · 2011-05-12 14:25:23

If LXTerminal is your term of choice, you can use the following command in your update line:

lxterminal --command "bash -c '%1 && echo --- Finished --- && bash'"

Which will run an update and then drop you at a prompt if anything needs further followup.

awayand · 2011-06-02 12:43:17

I agree with forkboy, is there a way to add IgnorePkg so that I don't get a notification for those packages? If this is not possible, then the tool is not really that useful as it will always stay in "new update available" state...

EDIT: I found a way. In my example, I am excluding the package gnucash. So here is what I did to suppress this package in the notifier. Edit in the tab "Package manager" the field "List packages to update" like this:

pacman -Qu|grep -v gnucash

Then when gnucash for example is the only "IgnorePkg", and also the only "outdated" package, the above command won't return anything, thus making yapan think everything is up to date.

EDIT: Correction: the above code has to be in a shell script actually. For some reason yapan doesn't like the pipe in the field directly. So if you put the above in for example ~/bin/update.sh, have your .bashrc export PATH=$PATH:~/bin and chmod +x ~/bin/update.sh, you can put "update.sh" directly into the field "List packages to update" and it will work...

Last edited by awayand (2011-06-06 01:38:10)

otsug · 2011-06-13 00:45:54

Sorry for the delay I was without internet access..

@akurei, @Cookie, @laurion thanks.

@awayand good that you found a solution, I think if you call bash the pipe will work too.

The only different I made in yapan is the change in the default to not use sudo, when I have time I will launch this little modification, but like I said is just a modification in the default commands nothing more.

awayand · 2011-06-13 01:17:50

@otsug: I noticed when I quit my session and then relaunch it, yapan complains that only one instance of yapan can run as if some lock file hadn't been cleaned up. If I restart my session a second time, then yapan starts up fine. I am using dwm and often just exit dwm using alt+shift+q.

otsug · 2011-06-13 01:20:53

awayand wrote:

@otsug: I noticed when I quit my session and then relaunch it, yapan complains that only one instance of yapan can run as if some lock file hadn't been cleaned up. If I restart my session a second time, then yapan starts up fine. I am using dwm and often just exit dwm using alt+shift+q.

Hmm, did you tried to launch yapan a second time after the yapan message?

awayand · 2011-06-14 11:04:42

Yes, if I launch a second time, the message disappears, but then launching a 3rd time it re-appears, then 4th time disappears, and so on....

aijeitpipol · 2011-07-30 18:38:06

Awesome, awesome job man. Greetings.

otsug · 2011-08-08 04:17:00

awayand wrote:

Yes, if I launch a second time, the message disappears, but then launching a 3rd time it re-appears, then 4th time disappears, and so on....

Hi awayand I think I resolved this issue in Yapan 0.4.1, please let me know if works, sorry for the big delay, I am very busy at work =/.

aijeitpipol wrote:

Awesome, awesome job man. Greetings.

thank you.

krax · 2011-09-02 12:32:00

hi I use openbox. and I have a problem. yapan does only synchronizes and show a notify to update . but if I click on the update button or update option on the menu. it only sync and show that massage again.
I uses the command call for openbox which is mentioned in wiki section of yapan site.
the full account of my problem is here
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 71#p985271

I hope a can get some help and make yapan to update my packages by just click on update button on notification.
thanks YAPAN

Last edited by krax (2011-09-02 12:33:40)

ancleessen4 · 2011-09-21 16:02:46

@krax
I had this problem with a recent yapan install.
If you have pacman -Syu set up for sudo use (nano /etc/sudoers) as per my case;

 neil ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/pacman -Syu

then change the update line in yapan to ;

sudo pacman -Syu

This works for me

krax · 2011-10-07 17:18:09

ancleessen4 wrote:

@krax
I had this problem with a recent yapan install.
If you have pacman -Syu set up for sudo use (nano /etc/sudoers) as per my case;
 neil ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/pacman -Syu
then change the update line in yapan to ;
sudo pacman -Syu
This works for me

Really THANKS

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