installing arch+kde

thelastblack · 2011-02-10 16:04:39

hi
i wanted to download and install arch+kde in a vitrualbox machine, then copy downloaded files to real arch i have installed... but i have problems...
i finished downloading kde, xorg and it it running fine in my virtualbox....
i copied all files in /var/cache/pacman/pkg from my virtual machine to real one, but when i try
# pacman -S kde-meta
it says it should download 600MB again....
i checked some pkgs, and founded out that most of packages i downloded are older than my real arch tries to download.. for example i have a 4.5.1 one but it tries to download 4.6.0 ....
why this happed? suddenly all of packages are updated?
i also checked architecture... both are i686....
what should i do now?

Inxsible · 2011-02-10 16:06:50

Arch is a rolling release. There are updates constantly. Please google rolling release to better understand the difference between Arch and other distros like Debian and Ubuntu

skunktrader · 2011-02-10 16:07:40

Try running pacman -Syu in your virtualbox machine before copying the files

thelastblack · 2011-02-10 16:18:01

i just watched packages in arch site.... all kde packages are 4.6.0 but all i have downloaded is 4.4.3....
i just started downloading it yesterday! and today we have it changed... what a great speed!
or it is my luck, maybe!

so isnt there anyway to install kde 4.4.3 for me? i have to download 4.6.0 ?

Last edited by thelastblack (2011-02-10 16:37:13)

anonymous_user · 2011-02-10 19:36:02

Maybe you were using an outdated mirror when you first downloaded KDE? Anyways like Inxsible said, Arch is a rolling release and you should upgrade somewhat frequently.

ANOKNUSA · 2011-02-10 20:25:21

What exactly is your end goal? Is there some pressing reason you need to copy over all the files from a virtual machine to your physical one? Why exactly do you have packages from three different releases of KDE--including from almost a year ago? If I had to guess, I'd say you're trying to copy the files from Arch in VirtualBox installed on one computer to a separate computer which might not have internet access; if that's the case, there are instructions in the wiki on how to install packages on an offline machine, just so you know for future reference.

thelastblack · 2011-02-11 07:46:43

you know, my connection is not that high speed and it takes about 2 days to download kde... i cant leave my computer in console mode for 2 days! i need it. because of this i wanted to download it in a virtual machine and then copy them to real one.... this is the reason...
so isnt there any way to install the packages i have?

ANOKNUSA · 2011-02-11 08:14:38

There are a couple wiki entries that will hopefully help you out:

1) This one should give you a little help on setting up a local repository; that might help you at least brainstorm.

2) Pacman Tips will give you some more info on backing up your installation, and updating it, without an internet connection readily available. And as Inxsible points out above, the rolling-release model will require you to do this (preferably) every few weeks or so. Hope this helps.

MadTux · 2011-02-12 07:17:32

thelastblack wrote:

you know, my connection is not that high speed and it takes about 2 days to download kde... i cant leave my computer in console mode for 2 days! i need it. because of this i wanted to download it in a virtual machine and then copy them to real one.... this is the reason...
so isnt there any way to install the packages i have?

Could you explain why you need to run in console mode for 2 days? I upgraded KDE while it was running. While pacman downloads the necessary packages there are no changes to your system.

Last edited by MadTux (2011-02-12 07:17:52)

taylorchu · 2011-02-12 07:32:10

have you tried "powerpill"? about 30 minutes, it is all done.
let the console do the job; get some books and coffee

thelastblack · 2011-02-12 09:41:55

i don't want to upgrade KDE, i want to install it! and that's why i should be in console for 2 days....
about powerpill: is it that efficient?

anonymous_user · 2011-02-12 11:55:33

It depends on how fast your connection is. If you can already download at full speed from a mirror, it might not make a difference.

taylorchu · 2011-02-13 03:50:32

if the mirrors you chose are slow but you have really good internet speed, you will need powerpill.
but, if your internet is too slow over all, powerpill is not needed.

BTW, two days is not acceptable internet speed, I choose mirror.kernel.org and it finishes in 30-50 minutes.

iTwenty · 2011-02-13 11:55:37

Here's a quick and dirty solution:
first, do a pacman -Sc in the VM, this will get rid of different versions of same packages and keep only latest ones in your cache.
second, copy over the pacman cache from your VM (/var/cache/pacman/pkg/) to some temp folder in your real install.
finally, do a pacman -U $(ls /path/to/temp/dir/*) on real install to install all copied over packages.

thelastblack · 2011-02-16 15:18:54

ok, thank u all guz, i installed kde, but have another prob.
i want to install xf86-input-synaptics because i have a laptop but pacman say it cant find "liblzma.so.0" then does nothing....
at the begining of kde installation, it said something about conflict between xz and xz-utils ( i think) and then wanted to remove xz-utils, so i said yes...
what should i do?
plz give me a quick reply, i am in hurry
thx again

thelastblack · 2011-02-17 06:53:12

i searched a bit and found out prob. is with xz ver5...
i decided to make link from liblzma.so.5 to liblzma.so.0 but i get another error, seems pacman cant unpack "xz" format...
so what should i do now?

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installing arch+kde

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