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#1 2011-04-10 23:29:56

themattbeballin
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[GNOME3] Doesn't look like GNOME3...

So, I upgraded to GNOME3 today... and it seems to look somewhat like GNOME2 still...

IT's like half and half.. I do not have "activities" and what not... but I have the applications and places menu like in GNOME2.

GNOME3 Picture

I've done some looking around... and it doesn't do this on my buddies systems... but it does do it on both of my Arch Linux machines.

Any suggestions on how to get "Activities" and any other new GNOME3 features?

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#2 2011-04-10 23:39:19

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Re: [GNOME3] Doesn't look like GNOME3...

restart X maybe ?

use a different mirror just to make sure you got all dependencies.


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#3 2011-04-10 23:47:27

themattbeballin
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Re: [GNOME3] Doesn't look like GNOME3...

Inxsible wrote:

restart X maybe ?

use a different mirror just to make sure you got all dependencies.

I did forget to mention my other machine was a fresh arch install.. .I have restarted X several times on my main machine..

and I did switch the mirrors... but the dependencies are still the same... but these are my mirrors, if anybody is wondering...

Server = http://lug.mtu.edu/archlinux/ftpfull/$repo/os/x86_64
Server = http://mirror.cs.vt.edu/pub/ArchLinux/$repo/os/x86_64
Server = http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/archlinux/$repo/os/x86_64
Server = http://mirror.rit.edu/archlinux/$repo/os/x86_64
Server = http://mirrors.xmission.com/archlinux/$repo/os/x86_64
Server = http://mirrors.hosef.org/archlinux/$repo/os/x86_64

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#4 2011-04-10 23:50:22

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Re: [GNOME3] Doesn't look like GNOME3...

What does it look like on a fresh user's account?  Perhaps your old ~/.gnome2 or whatever is messing w/ it?


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#5 2011-04-10 23:52:32

themattbeballin
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Re: [GNOME3] Doesn't look like GNOME3...

graysky wrote:

What does it look like on a fresh user's account?  Perhaps your old ~/.gnome2 or whatever is messing w/ it?

Give me about 10 minutes and I will answer that.

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#6 2011-04-11 00:01:07

themattbeballin
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Re: [GNOME3] Doesn't look like GNOME3...

All right.. I created a user called 'guest' and started up GNOME3 once again.. and it looked the same but it DID give me a message saying it was going into Fallback mode. I didn't get this error on my main user account.

Now, I was reading the Wiki, and I saw that one of the causes for this error is that gnome-shell may not have been installed..

so I made sure it was installed, and matter of fact, I reinstalled it, just to feel more comfortable. Tried it again, same thing.

I'd love to give GNOME3 a shot, but I wasn't expecting it to be this difficult. Lol

Could it be possibly because I'm using xinit and not GDM?

my xinitrc is set to issue 'exec ck-launch-session gnome-session'

The xinit part was just a thought.

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#7 2011-04-11 00:31:34

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Re: [GNOME3] Doesn't look like GNOME3...

The shell needs direct rendering to work. Check it.

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#8 2011-04-11 00:34:05

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Re: [GNOME3] Doesn't look like GNOME3...

jorchube wrote:

The shell needs direct rendering to work. Check it.

[19:32][burchettm@NOVA][~]$ glxinfo
name of display: :0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
server glx extensions:

I have a NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250. GLXinfo says I have direct rendering.

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#9 2011-04-11 02:45:56

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Re: [GNOME3] Doesn't look like GNOME3...

I've read that the propietary driver does not have a very good support for the shell.

I'm using nouveau and the shell is smooth, fast and error free. May be you can try it.

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#10 2011-04-11 03:07:15

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Re: [GNOME3] Doesn't look like GNOME3...

jorchube wrote:

I've read that the propietary driver does not have a very good support for the shell.

I'm using nouveau and the shell is smooth, fast and error free. May be you can try it.


Thanks. I will give that a shot.

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#11 2011-04-11 03:32:44

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Re: [GNOME3] Doesn't look like GNOME3...

My GTS250 didn't like Gnome-shell either

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#12 2011-04-11 04:05:21

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Re: [GNOME3] Doesn't look like GNOME3...

Did you try to open a terminal and executed "gnome-shell --replace" ?

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#13 2011-04-11 04:41:21

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Re: [GNOME3] Doesn't look like GNOME3...

The first round of patches is scheduled for september, seems GNOME3 will be a bit unstable until that.


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#14 2011-04-11 05:50:37

themattbeballin
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Re: [GNOME3] Doesn't look like GNOME3...

swathe wrote:

My GTS250 didn't like Gnome-shell either

Good to know I'm not the only one. smile

Kirodema wrote:

Did you try to open a terminal and executed "gnome-shell --replace" ?

Yes, I did try that. Did the same thing.

msx wrote:

The first round of patches is scheduled for september, seems GNOME3 will be a bit unstable until that.

Okay, thanks. I'll just wait it out until September I guess. I've spent the past few hours setting up a LXDE desktop, and I can live on that for some time, I suppose.

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#15 2011-04-11 07:22:45

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Re: [GNOME3] Doesn't look like GNOME3...

...and just pray that they take even the tiniest scrap of notice regarding bugs that only occur when the nVidia binary blob is in use. wink

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#16 2011-04-11 08:35:18

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Re: [GNOME3] Doesn't look like GNOME3...

Korrode wrote:

...and just pray that they take even the tiniest scrap of notice regarding bugs that only occur when the nVidia binary blob is in use. wink

Rather you should be praying that nouveau gets up to scratch sooner rather than later. Nvidia treats linux better than ATI/AMD ever did, but linux customers are still second rate. Fantastic drivers, but ain't never gonna be up to speed with X developments. Nouveau is the future, and the sooner it gets relatively up to par (especially w.r.t power savings) the better for the linux machines of the world.


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#17 2011-04-11 15:00:27

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Re: [GNOME3] Doesn't look like GNOME3...

Yup, fallback mode alright. Both the binary driver and Nouveau work great for me, though I prefer nouveau for now as it has less visual glitches from my experience. Try Nouveau, and if that doesn't work, try using GDM.

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