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#1 2011-05-23 23:11:27

karol
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Forum Atom feed and the Off-Topic forum

I'm subscribed via https://bbs.archlinux.org/extern.php?ac … der=posted and I've just noticed I don't get any notification if a new thread gets opened in Off-Topic forum. I haven't yet checked if any other forum is also excluded.

I know that I can subscribe to this forum via 'Subscribe to this forum' but according to http://projects.archlinux.org/vhosts/bb … extern.php the default feed shouldn't miss any subforums, as there are no nfids mentioned.

What am I missing?

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#2 2011-05-24 02:12:17

Snowman
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Re: Forum Atom feed and the Off-Topic forum

I suspect that it's because the off topics forum is only visible to logged in users.

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#3 2011-05-24 02:16:22

karol
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Re: Forum Atom feed and the Off-Topic forum

Snowman wrote:

I suspect that it's because the off topics forum is only visible to logged in users.

Makes sense.
Even the feed for that forum doesn't work https://bbs.archlinux.org/extern.php?ac … &type=atom

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#4 2011-05-24 02:38:00

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Re: Forum Atom feed and the Off-Topic forum

I don't mind opening the off-topic section as read only to not logged-in users/non-members


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There's no such thing as a stupid question, but there sure are a lot of inquisitive idiots !

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#5 2011-05-24 02:46:55

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Re: Forum Atom feed and the Off-Topic forum

Inxsible wrote:

I don't mind opening the off-topic section as read only to not logged-in users/non-members

As I recall off-topic, dustbin, and TGN are log-in so that moderation there can be slightly more lenient, since its guaranteed its only our community in the place (no lurkers)? Not part of the 'main' forums in that sense, then.


EDIT: lurkers and/or bots, which is the main point.

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#6 2011-05-24 02:54:54

Inxsible
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Re: Forum Atom feed and the Off-Topic forum

but if its read only, then it hardly matters. AFAIK, I don't think we allow Guests to post at all on the boards.


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#7 2011-05-24 02:59:41

karol
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Re: Forum Atom feed and the Off-Topic forum

Inxsible wrote:

but if its read only, then it hardly matters. AFAIK, I don't think we allow Guests to post at all on the boards.

Exactly.
A kid can register anyway and even the pictures that are posted in Try This subforum need to be decent so there should be no harm to the innocent :-)

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#8 2011-05-24 07:30:52

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Re: Forum Atom feed and the Off-Topic forum

ngoonee wrote:
Inxsible wrote:

I don't mind opening the off-topic section as read only to not logged-in users/non-members

As I recall off-topic, dustbin, and TGN are log-in so that moderation there can be slightly more lenient, since its guaranteed its only our community in the place (no lurkers)? Not part of the 'main' forums in that sense, then.


EDIT: lurkers and/or bots, which is the main point.

This is correct. We don't want someone to type "Arch Linux" in a search engine and to get, as the first link, an off-topic forum thread about some random absurdities or some TGN rant.  The same goes with someone visiting the forum to see what kind of community Arch Linux has before installing it. It's a question of giving a good first impression while still being able to have a good time.

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#9 2011-05-24 08:03:46

karol
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Re: Forum Atom feed and the Off-Topic forum

I'm fine with things being as they are now setup-wise but please make it explicit and add some comments.

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#10 2011-05-24 13:54:48

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Re: Forum Atom feed and the Off-Topic forum

Fair Enough. We shall leave things as they are then smile


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#11 2011-05-24 14:23:59

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Re: Forum Atom feed and the Off-Topic forum

I use Google Reader and post from Off-Topic are nowhere to be found - whether it's searching or browsing - they are not there, BUT:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/r … 8003&hl=en
Unfortunately it's still true: I can find (via search) for https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=118715 but not https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=118856 although I can browse and find it too.
I'll have to see if other feed readers have better search functions.

At least I know I'm not hallucinating things wrt Off-Topic posts not showing up :-)

Last edited by karol (2011-05-24 14:26:17)

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#12 2011-06-18 13:47:21

karol
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Re: Forum Atom feed and the Off-Topic forum

Can somebody add some comments now or do you prefer to wait for e.g. a new fluxbb version?

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