What desktop environment matches Archlinus's philosophy?

Brandon_R · 2011-08-23 16:45:39

What desktop environment matches Archlinus's philosophy? Simplicity and elegance and performance and not bloat and feature ridden?

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Gcool · 2011-08-23 16:53:34

Many candidates for that really (all a matter of personal preference). Personally, I'm quite fond of both Xfce and Openbox.

litemotiv · 2011-08-23 17:03:00

A desktop environment is by definition bloated, LXDE probably being the lightest option. For simple and elegant one would usually resort to using a windowmanager only:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wi … w_managers

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ataraxia · 2011-08-23 17:28:42

litemotiv wrote:

A desktop environment is by definition bloated, LXDE probably being the lightest option. For simple and elegant one would usually resort to using a windowmanager only:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wi … w_managers

My thoughts also. In particular, the various tiling WMs and Openbox have a lot of Arch users. (I'm an Openbox user myself, after having used many of the tilers for quite a while.)

olive · 2011-08-23 18:12:15

I use icewm, because I am used to it. It is just a window manager with virtually no dependencies.

What I would dream is to have the most packages compiled without crapware dependencies. Many package (cups, claws-mail, emacs,...) ca be compiled with --disable-<crap> where crap is in dbus gconf, etc... For example I have recompiled emacs disabling gconf, dbus, reenabling the old lucid toolkit and I got an emacs that start much faster. Unlike Gentoo arch does not provide a easy to do that.

Inxsible · 2011-08-23 18:12:34

Brandon_R wrote:

What desktop environment matches Archlinus's philosophy?

Any that helps you get your work done.

Wintervenom · 2011-08-23 18:26:06

Perhaps you may like [i3] ([screenshot], [video])? Or [Musca] ([screenshot])? Or something even lighter, such as [dwm] ([screenshot])?

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wonder · 2011-08-23 18:27:25

gnome matches arch philosophy as well /hides

litemotiv · 2011-08-23 18:36:52

We'll have to wait for the ArchLinus to drop in though for the definitive answer..

Inxsible · 2011-08-23 18:57:05

Brandon_R, please note the difference between 'Report' and 'Post reply'

Brandon_R wrote:

LOL Gnome is pretty heave on the resources but it is slick.

Brandon_R · 2011-08-23 19:25:39

Inxsible wrote:

Brandon_R, please note the difference between 'Report' and 'Post reply'
Brandon_R wrote:
LOL Gnome is pretty heave on the resources but it is slick.

Opps, i wondered where my post went. Will do.

MadCatMk2 · 2011-08-23 20:18:38

I don't think the archlinux philosophy matches the words "desktop environment" to begin with.

mcmillan · 2011-08-23 20:25:58

As seems to be theme, the answer is the one that you want to use - for an idea of how others have answered that question you might appreciate this thread https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=85535

ANOKNUSA · 2011-08-23 20:30:08

I'd use my psychic abilities to predict which working environment will work best for you, but all I see in the future are the initials "TGN."

gregor · 2011-08-23 20:51:01

if you like control... try "wmfs" me like

PReP · 2011-08-24 01:52:37

I'd put the choice of VM or DM to this arch-way-point: "...and provides a lightweight UNIX-like base structure that allows an individual user to shape the system according to their own needs. "

So, whatever makes _your_ use of the system the way you want it.

My poison is OpenBox, 4 desktops, and my usual applications fullscreen maximized.

And others are something else

yngwin · 2011-08-24 02:44:13

Simple and elegant? Openbox.

If you really want a DE around that, try LXDE. Tho in my opinion Qt is more elegant than GTK+, so I'm hoping razor-qt will shape up to be a good alternative.

caligo · 2011-08-24 10:06:49

I'd say LXDE (as standalone WMs don't really count as DEs). Not necessarily because it it the lightest--it might very well be, but XFCE is also quite light on the resources--but because it is so modular. The Arch way, as I see it, is being able to build a system that contains nothing but the tools you actually need, no matter what those tools might be.

It is of course quite possible to use Gnome, XFCE or KDE with another WM, other panels, etc., but LXDE is constructed in such a way that it is more straightforward to toss out bits and pieces of the environment and replace them with whatever you prefer. Whenever I've tried to e.g. run XFCE with compiz instead of XFWM or Gnome3 with AwesomeWM instead of Metacity, I've always felt like what I'm doing is not so much reconfiguring as hacking the DE.

FarmerF · 2011-08-24 11:11:06

What desktop environment matches Archlinus's philosophy?

Well enlightenment/e17 of course

Simplicity... check
Elegance... check
Performance.. check
Flexibility... check
Requires you to drop to the terminal to fix it yourself... check

Brandon_R · 2011-08-24 12:13:24

FarmerF wrote:

What desktop environment matches Archlinus's philosophy?
Well enlightenment/e17 of course
Simplicity... check
Elegance... check
Performance.. check
Flexibility... check
Requires you to drop to the terminal to fix it yourself... check

Is it possible that we can change this to make it not look like widoes ie remove the entire bar at the bottom. I really like this one but i hate the windows look.

FarmerF · 2011-08-24 17:57:11

Brandon_R wrote:

Is it possible that we can change this to make it not look like widoes ie remove the entire bar at the bottom. I really like this one but i hate the windows look.

Not sure what you mean but everything is possible/customizable. I posted some screenshots in the januari thread. Every bar and box can be placed pretty much where you want it. You can have as many or as few as you like as well. An random example of a non windows look from a google search.

axujen · 2011-08-24 20:47:11

welp to truly match the archlinux philo you should prolly use a wm and build your DE from the ground up since thats how arch likes to do things.
of course you dont have to do that you can chose whatever DE you like xfce and lxde are close to the arch philo tho

Brandon_R · 2011-08-24 23:25:38

Cool for the lxde link. Is it possible to remove the windows style start menu and task bar from it and make it more gnome like?

Japanlinux · 2011-08-25 01:52:26

yngwin wrote:

Simple and elegant? Openbox.
If you really want a DE around that, try LXDE. Tho in my opinion Qt is more elegant than GTK+, so I'm hoping razor-qt will shape up to be a good alternative.

I'm actually hoping razor-qt become like the qt version of Openbox, but currently I can't even get my internet up when I log into it. Well, I could, but it's not as simple as using networkmanager. Is there any guide on how to use it, because the 'system tray' doesn't seem to hold any system tray things for me...

On topic, how is KDE or Gnome not fitting with arch? Isn't arch designed to build a system that you want? I see no reason why gnome can't be just that.

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dhave · 2011-08-25 03:43:05

Inxsible wrote:

Brandon_R wrote:
What desktop environment matches Archlinus's philosophy?
Any that helps you get your work done.

Do you mean to say that there are people who use their computers for work?

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