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#1 2011-11-04 09:05:44

trontonic
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Total IPv6 transition

Hi,

So far, I've been oblivious to the joys and perils of IPv6, aiming only for IPv4 on my desktop computer. Any use of IPv6 so far has been incidental.
But, as I understand, IPv6 is the new cool thing, the way to the future and the slayer of packets. So, I wish to give it a proper shot.

My question is, how can I make my x86_64 Arch computer into a fully converted and full-blooded IPv6 machine?
I am willing to remove packages and settings that favor IPv4, if that's what it takes.

Which packages should I install? Which settings should be changed? How should /etc/sysctl.conf look? Are the use of the utilities in the ndisc6 package new and different?

Please help me IPv6-ify my computer to the point where I could put a IPv6 sticker on it and be proud of how IPv6y it has become.

Thank you in advance.

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#2 2011-11-04 12:19:22

ratcheer
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Re: Total IPv6 transition

Start with the tutorials at Hurricane Electric: http://he.net

Tim

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#3 2011-11-04 14:57:22

trontonic
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Re: Total IPv6 transition

Which link is it? The front page does not contain the word "tutorial", nor "guide". I could not find an IPv4 to IPv6 tutorial.

Last edited by trontonic (2011-11-04 14:57:49)

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#4 2011-11-04 15:10:49

trontonic
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Re: Total IPv6 transition

I was asked in IRC if I could be more specific, so I'll narrow it down to these questions (all are in the context of moving completely from IPv4 to IPv6, to the extent it is practical and possible):

  • Which packages could/should be installed?

  • Which packages could/should be removed?

  • Which configuration files could be relevant?

  • Which applications actually supports IPv6?

  • What are common pitfalls when transitioning from IPv4 to IPv6?

  • Will I have to do things differently when using ifconfig, iwconfig, ntpd or dhcpd/dhclient?

  • Are there any changes that could/should be made in Firefox, Chrome or Midori?

  • Can one turn off IPv4 completely somehow? (And is that wise / would it work?)

I ask here because I'm interested in Arch-specific answers and also because I hope the answers could be useful to others in the future.
Answers to any of these questions would be highly appreciated. Thanks.

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#5 2011-11-04 15:25:54

chr0nik
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From: Michigan, USA
Registered: 2011-03-13
Posts: 31

Re: Total IPv6 transition

trontonic wrote:

Which link is it? The front page does not contain the word "tutorial", nor "guide". I could not find an IPv4 to IPv6 tutorial.

I couldn't find it either; I think Google did though. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ipv6+tutorial+site%3Ahe.net

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#6 2011-11-04 15:27:34

wonder
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Re: Total IPv6 transition

you guys really miss the point. he doesn't want a crappy ipv6 tunnel from a crappy provider.

he wants native ipv6 in his own network


Give what you have. To someone, it may be better than you dare to think.

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#7 2011-11-04 15:44:30

jaco
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From: Toulouse, France
Registered: 2011-03-17
Posts: 149

Re: Total IPv6 transition

For my own, i'm using native IPv6 and... for nothing (except enable it in my ufw rules as, i don't know why, it's not the default)...
Obviously, your ISP has to be IPv6 aware and maybe you have to enable it on your router...

But maybe i don't understand your problem?

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#8 2011-11-04 19:55:18

Leonid.I
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From: Aethyr
Registered: 2009-03-22
Posts: 999

Re: Total IPv6 transition

trontonic wrote:

Hi,

So far, I've been oblivious to the joys and perils of IPv6, aiming only for IPv4 on my desktop computer. Any use of IPv6 so far has been incidental.
But, as I understand, IPv6 is the new cool thing, the way to the future and the slayer of packets. So, I wish to give it a proper shot.

My question is, how can I make my x86_64 Arch computer into a fully converted and full-blooded IPv6 machine?
I am willing to remove packages and settings that favor IPv4, if that's what it takes.

Which packages should I install? Which settings should be changed? How should /etc/sysctl.conf look? Are the use of the utilities in the ndisc6 package new and different?

Please help me IPv6-ify my computer to the point where I could put a IPv6 sticker on it and be proud of how IPv6y it has become.

Thank you in advance.

Do you have any goal in mind? Whatever you implement inside your LAN, you'll still need ipv4 protocol for web browsing, external ssh servers, etc, because the world is not yet ipv6 ready. So one has to convert ipv4 addresses into ipv6 ones.


Arch Linux is more than just GNU/Linux -- it's an adventure
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#9 2011-11-05 11:15:17

ratcheer
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Re: Total IPv6 transition

trontonic wrote:

Which link is it? The front page does not contain the word "tutorial", nor "guide". I could not find an IPv4 to IPv6 tutorial.

I apologize. I thought I saw the tutorials on the right, but you are correct, they're not there. In case you haven't found it yet, here is the page with the tutorials:

http://ipv6.he.net/presentations.php

Tim

Last edited by ratcheer (2011-11-05 11:16:02)

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#10 2011-11-06 19:08:59

trontonic
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Re: Total IPv6 transition

Ok, so in order to introduce IPv6 at home, for my home computer, the main action is to tell my ISP that I wish to switch over? That's it? I am an IPv6 noob, so don't be afraid to tell me how this works/should work. smile Thx.

Last edited by trontonic (2011-11-06 19:09:45)

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#11 2011-11-07 13:24:56

ratcheer
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Re: Total IPv6 transition

Most ISP's do not yet support IPv6 in any meaningful way. To run it, you usually need to set up an IPv6 tunnel with a "tunnel broker" such as Hurricane Electric. Others are available, but HE provides a free, excellent service.

Also, my router does not natively support IPv6, so I had to also flash it to a version of dd-wrt that does.

Tim

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#12 2011-11-07 16:13:38

jaco
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From: Toulouse, France
Registered: 2011-03-17
Posts: 149

Re: Total IPv6 transition

trontonic wrote:

Ok, so in order to introduce IPv6 at home, for my home computer, the main action is to tell my ISP that I wish to switch over? That's it? I am an IPv6 noob, so don't be afraid to tell me how this works/should work. smile Thx.

That's what i've done : i've asked my ISP (Free, in France) to give me a IPv6 prefix... That's possible only for LLU zones.

Last edited by jaco (2011-11-07 16:23:14)

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#13 2011-11-08 10:48:19

ghen
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From: Belgium
Registered: 2010-08-31
Posts: 121

Re: Total IPv6 transition

wonder wrote:

you guys really miss the point. he doesn't want a crappy ipv6 tunnel from a crappy provider.

There is nothing crappy about the tunnels from high quality tunnel brokers like Hurricane Electric or Sixxs.
I've been using a SixXS tunnel on my router since 2005, LAN behind it sees "native" IPv6, no issues at all.

Unfortunately Arch Linux is still not as IPv6 friendly as it could be.  Eg. you can't use the new rc.conf network settings for a simple (static) dualstack setup anymore, you need to use the much more complex netcfg, which only recently grew IPv6 support, too.  (But once set up properly, is works excellent.)

Most packages support IPv6 or dualstack just fine, and mostly transparantly (servers like apache, postfix, sshd, ... clients like Firefox, ...).  I have two VPS servers running Arch, and they're dualstack all the way, as is my workstation.

IPv6-only is still further away though, but I've been dabbling with it via DNS64+NAT64.

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