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#1 2011-12-05 17:48:00

b0b2
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Registered: 2011-10-31
Posts: 51

[S]bad perf b/c (lack of fine-tuning)/(wrong governor)/(redundancy)?

hiho,
my hardinfo benchmark results:

CPU Blowfish
CPU Blowfish
This Machine	800 MHz	7,602
Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 1.50GHz	(null)	26.1876862
PowerPC 740/750 (280.00MHz)	(null)	172.816713
CPU CryptoHash
CPU CryptoHash
This Machine	800 MHz	174,422
CPU Fibonacci
CPU Fibonacci
This Machine	800 MHz	2,989
Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 1.50GHz	(null)	8.1375674
PowerPC 740/750 (280.00MHz)	(null)	58.07682
CPU N-Queens
CPU N-Queens
This Machine	800 MHz	8,889
FPU FFT
FPU FFT
This Machine	800 MHz	3,354
FPU Raytracing
FPU Raytracing
This Machine	800 MHz	5,728
Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 1.50GHz	(null)	40.8816714
PowerPC 740/750 (280.00MHz)	(null)	161.312647

system:

Processor	2x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P8600 @ 2.40GHz
Memory	3081MB (692MB used)
Operating System	Arch Linux
User Name	sepp (Sebastian)
Date/Time	Mo 05 Dez 2011 18:39:33 CET
Display
Resolution	1680x1050 pixels
OpenGL Renderer	Unknown
X11 Vendor	The X.Org Foundation
Multimedia
Audio Adapter	HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
Input Devices
AT Translated Set 2 keyboard	
Sleep Button	
Lid Switch	
Power Button	
Video Bus	
PC Speaker	
HP WMI hotkeys	
ST LIS3LV02DL Accelerometer	
SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad	
CKF7063	
HDA Digital PCBeep	
Logitech USB Receiver	
Logitech USB Receiver	
Printers
No printers found	
SCSI Disks
ATA TOSHIBA MK3252GS	
TSSTcorp CDDVDW TS-L633M	
Operating System
Version
Kernel	Linux 3.1.4-1-ARCH (x86_64)
Compiled	#1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Nov 29 08:55:45 CET 2011
C Library	GNU C Library version 2.14.1 (stable)
Default C Compiler	Unknown
Distribution	Arch Linux
Current Session
Computer Name	alnb
User Name	sepp (Sebastian)
Home Directory	/home/sepp
Desktop Environment	Unknown (Window Manager: Mutter)
Misc
Uptime	1 hour, 37 minutes
Load Average	0,00, 0,00, 0,00
Kernel Modules
Loaded Modules
cryptd	Software async crypto daemon
aes_x86_64	Rijndael (AES) Cipher Algorithm, asm optimized
aes_generic	Rijndael (AES) Cipher Algorithm
ipv6	IPv6 protocol stack for Linux
fuse	Filesystem in Userspace
microcode	Microcode Update Driver
coretemp	Intel Core temperature monitor
snd_hda_codec_analog	Analog Devices HD-audio codec
uvcvideo	USB Video Class driver
videodev	Device registrar for Video4Linux drivers v2
media	Device node registration for media drivers
v4l2_compat_ioctl32	
radeon	ATI Radeon
joydev	Joystick device interfaces
snd_hda_intel	Intel HDA driver
arc4	ARC4 Cipher Algorithm
ttm	TTM memory manager subsystem (for DRM device)
iwlagn	Intel(R) Wireless WiFi Link AGN driver for Linux
snd_hda_codec	HDA codec core
snd_hwdep	Hardware dependent layer
snd_pcm	Midlevel PCM code for ALSA.
iTCO_wdt	Intel TCO WatchDog Timer Driver
hp_accel	Glue between LIS3LV02Dx and HP ACPI BIOS and support for disk protection LED.
lis3lv02d	ST LIS3LV02Dx three-axis digital accelerometer driver
hp_wmi	HP laptop WMI hotkeys driver
drm_kms_helper	DRM KMS helper
drm	DRM shared core routines
iTCO_vendor_support	Intel TCO Vendor Specific WatchDog Timer Driver Support
evdev	Input driver event char devices
psmouse	PS/2 mouse driver
sparse_keymap	Generic support for sparse keymaps
mac80211	IEEE 802.11 subsystem
cfg80211	wireless configuration support
sky2	Marvell Yukon 2 Gigabit Ethernet driver
i2c_algo_bit	I2C-Bus bit-banging algorithm
rfkill	RF switch support
i2c_core	I2C-Bus main module
snd_timer	ALSA timer interface
snd	Advanced Linux Sound Architecture driver for soundcards.
soundcore	Core sound module
serio_raw	Raw serio driver
intel_agp	
container	ACPI container driver
intel_gtt	
pcspkr	PC Speaker beeper driver
wmi	ACPI-WMI Mapping Driver
snd_page_alloc	Memory allocator for ALSA system.
input_polldev	Generic implementation of a polled input device
video	ACPI Video Driver
fan	ACPI Fan Driver
thermal	ACPI Thermal Zone Driver
battery	ACPI Battery Driver
ac	ACPI AC Adapter Driver
button	ACPI Button Driver
cpufreq_powersave	CPUfreq policy governor 'powersave'
cpufreq_ondemand	'cpufreq_ondemand' - A dynamic cpufreq governor for Low Latency Frequency Transition capable processors
acpi_cpufreq	ACPI Processor P-States Driver
freq_table	CPUfreq frequency table helpers
processor	ACPI Processor Driver
mperf	
usbhid	USB HID core driver
hid	
vfat	VFAT filesystem support
fat	
ext4	Fourth Extended Filesystem
jbd2	
crc16	CRC16 calculations
ext2	Second Extended Filesystem
mbcache	Meta block cache (for extended attributes)
uhci_hcd	USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver
ehci_hcd	USB 2.0 'Enhanced' Host Controller (EHCI) Driver
usbcore	
sr_mod	SCSI cdrom (sr) driver
cdrom	
sd_mod	SCSI disk (sd) driver
ahci	AHCI SATA low-level driver
libahci	Common AHCI SATA low-level routines
libata	Library module for ATA devices
scsi_mod	SCSI core
Boots
Boots
Mon Dec 5 1177:0	33..1.4-1-ARCH|-
Mon Dec 5 1144:4	33..1.4-1-ARCH|-
Sun Dec 4 1199:2	33..1.4-1-ARCH|-
Sun Dec 4 1199:2	33..1.4-1-ARCH|-
Sun Dec 4 1177:4	33..1.4-1-ARCH|-
Sun Dec 4 1144:1	33..1.4-1-ARCH|-
Sun Dec 4 1144:0	33..1.4-1-ARCH|-
Sun Dec 4 1133:4	33..1.4-1-ARCH|-
Sat Dec 3 1122:3	33..1.4-1-ARCH|-
Languages
Available Languages
de_DE	German locale for Germany
de_DE@euro	German locale for Germany with Euro
de_DE.iso88591	German locale for Germany
de_DE.iso885915	German locale for Germany with Euro
de_DE.utf8	German locale for Germany
deutsch	German locale for Germany
en_US	English locale for the USA
en_US.iso88591	English locale for the USA
en_US.utf8	English locale for the USA
Filesystems
Mounted File Systems
udev	/dev	0,00 % (10,0 MiB of 10,0 MiB)
/run	/run	2,70 % (9,7 MiB of 10,0 MiB)
/dev/sda3	/	29,00 % (16,3 GiB of 22,9 GiB)
shm	/dev/shm	0,04 % (1,5 GiB of 1,5 GiB)
tmpfs	/tmp	0,00 % (1,5 GiB of 1,5 GiB)
/dev/sda4	/home	5,69 % (251,6 GiB of 266,7 GiB)
/dev/sda1	/boot	25,22 % (68,1 MiB of 91,0 MiB)
Display
Display
Resolution	1680x1050 pixels
Vendor	The X.Org Foundation
Version	1.11.2
Monitors
Monitor 0	1680x1050 pixels

rc.conf:

MODULES=(acpi-cpufreq cpufreq_ondemand cpufreq_powersave)
DAEMONS=(!hwclock syslog-ng @network @netfs @crond @dbus gdm @cpufreq @acpid laptop-mode @sensors @microcode)

its strange that the cpu has only 800MHz during the bench.
my ondemand threshold: 95
does the bench cause less then 95%?

Last edited by b0b2 (2011-12-07 14:17:41)

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#2 2011-12-05 17:50:57

ewaller
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Re: [S]bad perf b/c (lack of fine-tuning)/(wrong governor)/(redundancy)?

Maybe I am being a bit thick this morning, but what is your point?


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#3 2011-12-05 17:54:26

b0b2
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Registered: 2011-10-31
Posts: 51

Re: [S]bad perf b/c (lack of fine-tuning)/(wrong governor)/(redundancy)?

does the bench cause less then 95% load?
should the threshold be lower?
do you really need laptopmodetools, acpi, cpufreq & acpid? or could i deinst one of them?
should i use another cpu-gov?

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#4 2011-12-06 03:22:51

sonoran
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From: sonoran desert
Registered: 2009-01-12
Posts: 192

Re: [S]bad perf b/c (lack of fine-tuning)/(wrong governor)/(redundancy)?

While I ran the benchmarks gkrellm showed my cores running at 3200MHz,
yet the hardinfo results never reported higher than 2500MHz.

This on a 3x AMD AthlonII X3 450, modules powernow_k8 and cpufreq_ondemand.
Stepping is 800-2000-2500-3200. Threshold is the default 95%.

I don't think hardinfo is reporting cpu frequency correctly.

Aha. Check out this bug from the hardinfo site:
http://bugs.hardinfo.org/showreport.php?bugid=48

This is a known bug. If you're using cpufreq with the ondemand governor, then the tests will be performed at 3GHz on your machine, as they're quite CPU intensive and the governor will automatically pump out more juice to the CPU.

However, HardInfo only measures the CPU speed once, and that's the speed it displays on the benchmark window.

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#5 2011-12-06 19:15:51

b0b2
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Re: [S]bad perf b/c (lack of fine-tuning)/(wrong governor)/(redundancy)?

sonoran wrote:

While I ran the benchmarks gkrellm showed my cores running at 3200MHz,
yet the hardinfo results never reported higher than 2500MHz.

This on a 3x AMD AthlonII X3 450, modules powernow_k8 and cpufreq_ondemand.
Stepping is 800-2000-2500-3200. Threshold is the default 95%.

I don't think hardinfo is reporting cpu frequency correctly.

Aha. Check out this bug from the hardinfo site:
http://bugs.hardinfo.org/showreport.php?bugid=48

This is a known bug. If you're using cpufreq with the ondemand governor, then the tests will be performed at 3GHz on your machine, as they're quite CPU intensive and the governor will automatically pump out more juice to the CPU.

However, HardInfo only measures the CPU speed once, and that's the speed it displays on the benchmark window.

Oh thank you for the answer, good Sir!
Can you answer the 3rd question?: do you really need laptopmodetools, acpi, cpufreq & acpid? or could i deinst one of them?

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#6 2011-12-06 23:09:12

Mavirick
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Posts: 62

Re: [S]bad perf b/c (lack of fine-tuning)/(wrong governor)/(redundancy)?

If you are using laptopmodetools to govern the cpu scaling then you don't need the cpufreq dameon, the acpid daemon is used to send events to laptopmodetools.

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#7 2011-12-07 00:13:59

b0b2
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Re: [S]bad perf b/c (lack of fine-tuning)/(wrong governor)/(redundancy)?

Thank you & happy holidays, comrad!
hidiehoooooooooooooooooooooow!

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#8 2011-12-07 11:38:27

sonoran
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Registered: 2009-01-12
Posts: 192

Re: [S]bad perf b/c (lack of fine-tuning)/(wrong governor)/(redundancy)?

Glad you got it resolved.

b0b2 wrote:

Thank you & happy holidays, comrad!
hidiehoooooooooooooooooooooow!

& the same to you and yours!

You might want to mark the thread [SOLVED], https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=130309

Last edited by sonoran (2011-12-07 11:48:18)

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