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#1 2011-12-18 06:59:44

r0b0t
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[SOLVED] Noisy FAN - High CPU Temerature - Hybrid Cards

Hi,

I have a new laptop, which with windows even if he uses 800+M of ram and allot of processor the fan makes no noise, with linux/arch instead makes allot of noise even if I use only firefox.

I tend to use minimalistic stuff (except firefox) and I use openbox + slim, all other appl's are normal.

I have done some tunning as well :

$ cpufreq-info 
cpufrequtils 008: cpufreq-info (C) Dominik Brodowski 2004-2009
Report errors and bugs to cpufreq@vger.kernel.org, please.
analyzing CPU 0:
  driver: acpi-cpufreq
  CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 0 1 2 3
  CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 0
  maximum transition latency: 10.0 us.
  hardware limits: 800 MHz - 2.30 GHz
  available frequency steps: 2.30 GHz, 2.30 GHz, 1.80 GHz, 1.60 GHz, 1.40 GHz, 1.20 GHz, 1000 MHz, 800 MHz
  available cpufreq governors: userspace, ondemand, powersave, performance
  current policy: frequency should be within 800 MHz and 2.30 GHz.
                  The governor "ondemand" may decide which speed to use
                  within this range.
  current CPU frequency is 800 MHz.
analyzing CPU 1:
  driver: acpi-cpufreq
  CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 0 1 2 3
  CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 1
  maximum transition latency: 10.0 us.
  hardware limits: 800 MHz - 2.30 GHz
  available frequency steps: 2.30 GHz, 2.30 GHz, 1.80 GHz, 1.60 GHz, 1.40 GHz, 1.20 GHz, 1000 MHz, 800 MHz
  available cpufreq governors: userspace, ondemand, powersave, performance
  current policy: frequency should be within 800 MHz and 1.50 GHz.
                  The governor "powersave" may decide which speed to use
                  within this range.
  current CPU frequency is 800 MHz.
analyzing CPU 2:
  driver: acpi-cpufreq
  CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 0 1 2 3
  CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 2
  maximum transition latency: 10.0 us.
  hardware limits: 800 MHz - 2.30 GHz
  available frequency steps: 2.30 GHz, 2.30 GHz, 1.80 GHz, 1.60 GHz, 1.40 GHz, 1.20 GHz, 1000 MHz, 800 MHz
  available cpufreq governors: userspace, ondemand, powersave, performance
  current policy: frequency should be within 800 MHz and 1.50 GHz.
                  The governor "powersave" may decide which speed to use
                  within this range.
  current CPU frequency is 800 MHz.
analyzing CPU 3:
  driver: acpi-cpufreq
  CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 0 1 2 3
  CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 3
  maximum transition latency: 10.0 us.
  hardware limits: 800 MHz - 2.30 GHz
  available frequency steps: 2.30 GHz, 2.30 GHz, 1.80 GHz, 1.60 GHz, 1.40 GHz, 1.20 GHz, 1000 MHz, 800 MHz
  available cpufreq governors: userspace, ondemand, powersave, performance
  current policy: frequency should be within 800 MHz and 1.50 GHz.
                  The governor "powersave" may decide which speed to use
                  within this range.
  current CPU frequency is 800 MHz.

without success sad
using sensors it's shows only 2 of my 4 CPU's  [why is happening?]

$ sensors
acpitz-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1:        +54.0°C  (crit = +99.0°C)

radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +57.5°C  

coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Physical id 0:  +55.0°C  (high = +86.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 0:         +55.0°C  (high = +86.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 1:         +54.0°C  (high = +86.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)

jc42-i2c-15-1a
Adapter: SMBus I801 adapter at 6040
temp1:        +39.4°C  (low  =  +0.0°C)                  ALARM (HIGH, CRIT)
                       (high =  +0.0°C, hyst =  +0.0°C)
                       (crit =  +0.0°C, hyst =  +0.0°C)

and the temp it's quite high as you see even if currently it's doing nothing...

Some more info on my PC:

http://pastie.org/3020671  [current hardware/ drivers]
http://pastie.org/3020654  [dmidecode]
http://pastie.org/3034734  [pstree -ap]

Please help, the noise it's very disturbing.

Last edited by r0b0t (2011-12-18 21:43:26)

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#2 2011-12-18 19:05:54

r0b0t
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Re: [SOLVED] Noisy FAN - High CPU Temerature - Hybrid Cards

Installed a fan / cpu software under windows and it showed the temperature up to 39 - 40° C

What's wrong with arch or the kernel or anything?
with 55° it's normal that the fan it's working allot, so why is that?

anybody?

please help, it's really becoming a frustrating issue.

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#3 2011-12-18 19:38:41

/dev/zero
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Re: [SOLVED] Noisy FAN - High CPU Temerature - Hybrid Cards

Seems similar to this.

One suggestion that apparently worked was to try updating the bios.


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#4 2011-12-18 21:00:31

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Re: [SOLVED] Noisy FAN - High CPU Temerature - Hybrid Cards

Apparently fixed (after bios update) but now again, when the processor reached 60°C the FAN is on again making allot of noise hmm (it's my music apparently...)

Any other suggestion is welcome.
I updated to the last bios available..

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#5 2011-12-18 21:41:31

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Re: [SOLVED] Noisy FAN - High CPU Temerature - Hybrid Cards

This is what did the trick  (whoever also the bios upgrade I think helped a little bit):

 
put debugfs   /sys/kernel/debug   debugfs   defaults   0   0
in /etc/fstab
yaourt -S acpi_call-git kernel-headers
modprobe acpi_call
/usr/bin/test_off.sh
*************
this test will show you "test working!" in my case was : \_SB.PCI0.PEG0.PEGP._OFF [ATI]

# cat /etc/rc.local
#!/bin/bash
# /etc/rc.local: Local multi-user startup script.
/sbin/modprobe acpi_call
echo '\_SB.PCI0.PEG0.PEGP._OFF' > /proc/acpi/call

AAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNDDDDDDDDDDDDDD big_smile:D

$ sensors
acpitz-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1:        +45.0°C  (crit = +99.0°C)

coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Physical id 0:  +45.0°C  (high = +86.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 0:         +45.0°C  (high = +86.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 1:         +43.0°C  (high = +86.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)

jc42-i2c-15-1a
Adapter: SMBus I801 adapter at 6040
temp1:        +37.6°C  (low  =  +0.0°C)                  ALARM (HIGH, CRIT)
                       (high =  +0.0°C, hyst =  +0.0°C)
                       (crit =  +0.0°C, hyst =  +0.0°C)

Last edited by r0b0t (2011-12-18 21:54:08)

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#6 2011-12-18 21:43:40

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Re: [SOLVED] Noisy FAN - High CPU Temerature - Hybrid Cards

# of Cores
    2
# of Threads
    4
source intel - this is about

using sensors it's shows only 2 of my 4 CPU's  [why is happening?]

try cpupower instead of cpufrequtils ( have more advantages like hidden turbo boosts, better handle of cpu sleep states etc...)

Last edited by cybertorture (2011-12-18 21:43:52)


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#7 2011-12-18 21:45:52

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Re: [SOLVED] Noisy FAN - High CPU Temerature - Hybrid Cards

Good stuff. I think my laptop also runs a little warmer than it should, I might try this out :-)


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#8 2011-12-18 22:13:21

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Re: [SOLVED] Noisy FAN - High CPU Temerature - Hybrid Cards

THANKS GOD it worked, I was becoming ILL from the noise xD

@Suggestion to the guys (or moderators maybe) who have an archlinux wiki account, you may add this "trick" to hybrid cards or powersave becuase I have seen this problem (looking for a solution) that happens especially with hybrid graphical cards.

Last edited by r0b0t (2011-12-18 22:51:54)

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#9 2011-12-19 21:34:26

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Re: [SOLVED] Noisy FAN - High CPU Temerature - Hybrid Cards

let me clarify something. Did you managed to get lower noise and lower temp by this trick?
I did what you write and suddenly my fan on laptop start making so much noise. Comparable to rocket launching, seriously. Of course temp drop by 10 degrees but that was no a point.

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#10 2011-12-20 10:15:56

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Re: [SOLVED] Noisy FAN - High CPU Temerature - Hybrid Cards

r0b0t wrote:

This is what did the trick  (whoever also the bios upgrade I think helped a little bit):

 
put debugfs   /sys/kernel/debug   debugfs   defaults   0   0
in /etc/fstab
yaourt -S acpi_call-git kernel-headers
modprobe acpi_call
/usr/bin/test_off.sh
*************
this test will show you "test working!" in my case was : \_SB.PCI0.PEG0.PEGP._OFF [ATI]

# cat /etc/rc.local
#!/bin/bash
# /etc/rc.local: Local multi-user startup script.
/sbin/modprobe acpi_call
echo '\_SB.PCI0.PEG0.PEGP._OFF' > /proc/acpi/call

Hmm. After running,

sudo modprobe acpi_call

I tried,

sudo test_off.sh

and received,

Trying \_SB.PCI0.P0P1.VGA._OFF: failed
Trying \_SB.PCI0.P0P2.VGA._OFF: failed
Trying \_SB_.PCI0.OVGA.ATPX: failed
Trying \_SB_.PCI0.OVGA.XTPX: failed
Trying \_SB.PCI0.P0P3.PEGP._OFF: failed
Trying \_SB.PCI0.P0P2.PEGP._OFF: failed
Trying \_SB.PCI0.P0P1.PEGP._OFF: failed
Trying \_SB.PCI0.MXR0.MXM0._OFF: failed
Trying \_SB.PCI0.PEG1.GFX0._OFF: failed
Trying \_SB.PCI0.PEG0.GFX0.DOFF: failed
Trying \_SB.PCI0.PEG1.GFX0.DOFF: failed
Trying \_SB.PCI0.PEG0.PEGP._OFF: failed
Trying \_SB.PCI0.XVR0.Z01I.DGOF: failed
Trying \_SB.PCI0.PEGR.GFX0._OFF: failed
Trying \_SB.PCI0.PEG.VID._OFF: failed
Trying \_SB.PCI0.PEG0.VID._OFF: failed
Trying \_SB.PCI0.P0P2.DGPU._OFF: failed
Trying \_SB.PCI0.P0P4.DGPU.DOFF: failed
Trying \_SB.PCI0.IXVE.IGPU.DGOF: failed
Trying \_SB.PCI0.RP00.VGA._PS3: failed
Trying \_SB.PCI0.RP00.VGA.P3MO: failed
Trying \_SB.PCI0.GFX0.DSM._T_0: failed
Trying \_SB.PCI0.LPC.EC.PUBS._OFF: failed
Trying \_SB.PCI0.P0P2.NVID._OFF: failed
Trying \_SB.PCI0.P0P2.VGA.PX02: failed

I guess I won't be trying your solution out for myself after all ...


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#11 2011-12-20 15:29:14

r0b0t
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Re: [SOLVED] Noisy FAN - High CPU Temerature - Hybrid Cards

MM it's weird it's just like there is no acpi_call available for your card.

this is what shows to me:

# /usr/bin/test_off.sh 
Trying \_SB.PCI0.P0P1.VGA._OFF: failed
Trying \_SB.PCI0.P0P2.VGA._OFF: failed
Trying \_SB_.PCI0.OVGA.ATPX: failed
Trying \_SB_.PCI0.OVGA.XTPX: failed
Trying \_SB.PCI0.P0P3.PEGP._OFF: failed
Trying \_SB.PCI0.P0P2.PEGP._OFF: failed
Trying \_SB.PCI0.P0P1.PEGP._OFF: failed
Trying \_SB.PCI0.MXR0.MXM0._OFF: failed
Trying \_SB.PCI0.PEG1.GFX0._OFF: failed
Trying \_SB.PCI0.PEG0.GFX0.DOFF: failed
Trying \_SB.PCI0.PEG1.GFX0.DOFF: failed
Trying \_SB.PCI0.PEG0.PEGP._OFF: works!

Wait a sec, are both drivers configured?
Maybe you installed only one of the drivers.

Last edited by r0b0t (2011-12-20 15:30:12)

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#12 2011-12-20 15:45:47

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Re: [SOLVED] Noisy FAN - High CPU Temerature - Hybrid Cards

chmurli wrote:

let me clarify something. Did you managed to get lower noise and lower temp by this trick?
I did what you write and suddenly my fan on laptop start making so much noise. Comparable to rocket launching, seriously. Of course temp drop by 10 degrees but that was no a point.

yes absolutely, but in my case the 2 problems were related because the FAN was working allot because the temperature of the processor was high, so after getting -10°C the FAN was in sleep again.

PS=> I installed ck kernel but don't know why the temperature is getting higher with ck kernel, so I switched back to the old one.

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#13 2011-12-20 18:21:55

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Re: [SOLVED] Noisy FAN - High CPU Temerature - Hybrid Cards

r0b0t wrote:

Wait a sec, are both drivers configured?
Maybe you installed only one of the drivers.

I think I've misunderstood something then. What is the other driver you mean? I only ran modprobe on acpi_call.


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#14 2011-12-21 14:55:47

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Re: [SOLVED] Noisy FAN - High CPU Temerature - Hybrid Cards

/dev/zero wrote:
r0b0t wrote:

Wait a sec, are both drivers configured?
Maybe you installed only one of the drivers.

I think I've misunderstood something then. What is the other driver you mean? I only ran modprobe on acpi_call.

I mean if both radeon & intel drivers are installed ? (but I suppose yes)

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