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#626 2015-05-17 11:15:59

aaditya
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Re: OpenRC & eudev on Arch

xanb wrote:

Another thing: I get

kernel.kptr_restrict invalid argument

in the boot when I boot with grsec kernel. Is this any OpenRC specific or not?

Thanks,

Hmm, no idea...

xanb wrote:

I thought you are following gentoo repo. One question: what's the state of openrc in Manjaro Linux? I don't want to start a battle Manjaro/Arch, but is the systemd the default boot system in Manjaro too?

Yup, systemd is the default, OpenRC is available as an alternative.

Edit-
"boot option" written above is slightly misleading, its not like Ubuntu where you have an option to choose your init at boot, "init system" is probably the more correct term.

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#627 2015-06-14 15:52:48

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Re: OpenRC & eudev on Arch

The last version (0.16.4-2) of openrc-core causes that mouse does not run in X. Can you review it. The previous version (0.16.4-1) is OK.


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#628 2015-06-15 19:15:00

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Re: OpenRC & eudev on Arch

Can anyone check it?
Thanks,

xanb wrote:

The last version (0.16.4-2) of openrc-core causes that mouse does not run in X. Can you review it. The previous version (0.16.4-1) is OK.


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#629 2015-06-15 21:46:00

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Re: OpenRC & eudev on Arch

@xanb

Gentoo's splitting udev script into udev+udev-trigger+udev-settle. This process lasted for two or three days, and bugs have been resolved today. Arch's package may be a bit behind, so if the new version installs udev-trigger you should be careful with the upgrade.

P.S. Aren't scripts install with a different package (eudev-arch-scripts or somesuch)?

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#630 2015-06-16 07:15:31

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Re: OpenRC & eudev on Arch

bstaletic wrote:

@xanb

Gentoo's splitting udev script into udev+udev-trigger+udev-settle. This process lasted for two or three days, and bugs have been resolved today. Arch's package may be a bit behind, so if the new version installs udev-trigger you should be careful with the upgrade.

P.S. Aren't scripts install with a different package (eudev-arch-scripts or somesuch)?

So do I have to wait until then? My level is begginer already ;-) Thanks for answering.

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#631 2015-06-16 09:16:54

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Re: OpenRC & eudev on Arch

That and the manjaro pkgbuilds (surprise!) now install to /usr/lib/manjaro.


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#632 2015-06-16 13:55:45

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Re: OpenRC & eudev on Arch

Guys do not upgrade if you need a fully functional system right now. On Gentoo I got the working wersion of the scripts yesterday, but since Arch is not as close to upstream as Gentoo is (unless you're using git version) it may be a while for it to come to Arch.

By all means try the new version, but do not be surprised if it does not boot or some of things is missing.

P.S. Just remembered what was the cause of no mouse in xorg. udev-trigger was starting too early, before udev finished. Delaying that script's start in any way by a few seconds would help.

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#633 2015-06-16 17:17:14

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Re: OpenRC & eudev on Arch

bstaletic wrote:

Delaying that script's start in any way by a few seconds would help.

Haha.  And so we return to slackware style init systems.  Sleep, sleep everywhere.

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#634 2015-06-16 17:57:01

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You could also move the script from sysinit to boot runlevel. I've not tried it as the defaults work perfectly on my pc, or you could change the scripts so they would have some sort of sync logic, than make a pull request.

The first "solution" I've found was a user using interactive boot to delay the script. The user manually started one script after another accouting for the needed delay.

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#635 2015-06-17 10:01:57

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Re: OpenRC & eudev on Arch

Perhaps Aaditya could tell us what amount of time we have to wait ;-)


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#636 2015-06-17 16:25:46

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Re: OpenRC & eudev on Arch

xanb wrote:

Perhaps Aaditya could tell us what amount of time we have to wait ;-)

me and nous are co-maintainers.

I will try to do it today. Source is available here.

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#637 2015-06-18 06:49:43

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Re: OpenRC & eudev on Arch

Thanks for the update but I get the same results with openrc-core 0.16.4-3 (with the removal of eudev-openrc)


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#638 2015-06-18 08:04:59

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Re: OpenRC & eudev on Arch

Aaditya, Nous : some comments about the openrc-core pkgbuild

if [ -f /etc/os-release ]; then
    . /etc/os-release
    _base_args+=(BRANDING="$NAME")

else
    _base_args+=(BRANDING='Unknown Linux')
fi

If etc/os-release doesn't exist, you should check for /usr/lib/os-release  instead (check filesystem manpage) .

_rc_args+=(LIBEXECDIR=/usr/lib/rc)
_f_args+=(ROOTLIBEXECDIR=/usr/lib/manjaro)
_net_args+=(LIBEXECDIR=/usr/lib/${_net})

Why 3 different libexec directories instead of just 1 ?

In the package() function i notice several uses of sed. Maybe they can be replaced by patching source files in prepare ?

Last edited by Lone_Wolf (2015-06-18 08:05:36)


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#639 2015-06-18 16:03:58

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Re: OpenRC & eudev on Arch

xanb wrote:

Thanks for the update but I get the same results with openrc-core 0.16.4-3 (with the removal of eudev-openrc)

Dunno about that, you could downgrade to the version which works or you or check the logs and do some investigation.

Lone_Wolf wrote:

Aaditya, Nous : some comments about the openrc-core pkgbuild

if [ -f /etc/os-release ]; then
    . /etc/os-release
    _base_args+=(BRANDING="$NAME")

else
    _base_args+=(BRANDING='Unknown Linux')
fi

If etc/os-release doesn't exist, you should check for /usr/lib/os-release  instead (check filesystem manpage) .

_rc_args+=(LIBEXECDIR=/usr/lib/rc)
_f_args+=(ROOTLIBEXECDIR=/usr/lib/manjaro)
_net_args+=(LIBEXECDIR=/usr/lib/${_net})

Why 3 different libexec directories instead of just 1 ?

In the package() function i notice several uses of sed. Maybe they can be replaced by patching source files in prepare ?

Hi Lone_Wolf,
Artoo is the maintainer of most of the pkgbuilds, we just maintain the repo.

I agree with your first point, dunno about the second, and for the third I think sed is simpler, because patches would probably need to be updated every time a script is changed, and for a large number for files it could be difficult to maintain as well.

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#640 2015-06-19 10:58:42

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Re: OpenRC & eudev on Arch

aaditya wrote:
xanb wrote:

Thanks for the update but I get the same results with openrc-core 0.16.4-3 (with the removal of eudev-openrc)

Dunno about that, you could downgrade to the version which works or you or check the logs and do some investigation.

Version of openrc-core 0.16.4-1 works perfectly, but openrc-core 0.16.4-3 causes the problem.


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#641 2015-06-20 14:27:53

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Re: OpenRC & eudev on Arch

WIth completely new OpenRC installation, I get a problem when I run

pacman -S eudev-openrc eudev-systemdcompat

openrc-core is in conflict with these packages?

On the other hand, I get an error on the boot:

* Setting up tmpfiles.d entries...
tmpfiles: ignoring invalid entry on line 11 of '/usr/lib/tmpfiles.d//tmp.conf'
tmpfiles: ignoring invalid entry on line 12 of '/usr/lib/tmpfiles.d//tmp.conf'
tmpfiles: ignoring invalid entry on line 21 of '/usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/var.conf'

The lines in tmp.conf are:

v /tmp 1777 root root 10d
v /var/tmp 1777 root root 30d

and

v /var/lib/machines 0700 - - -

Thanks,


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#642 2015-06-20 18:47:34

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Re: OpenRC & eudev on Arch

xanb wrote:

WIth completely new OpenRC installation, I get a problem when I run

pacman -S eudev-openrc eudev-systemdcompat

openrc-core is in conflict with these packages?

On the other hand, I get an error on the boot:

* Setting up tmpfiles.d entries...
tmpfiles: ignoring invalid entry on line 11 of '/usr/lib/tmpfiles.d//tmp.conf'
tmpfiles: ignoring invalid entry on line 12 of '/usr/lib/tmpfiles.d//tmp.conf'
tmpfiles: ignoring invalid entry on line 21 of '/usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/var.conf'

The lines in tmp.conf are:

v /tmp 1777 root root 10d
v /var/tmp 1777 root root 30d

and

v /var/lib/machines 0700 - - -

Thanks,

eudev-openrc is deprecated with openrc-core>=0.16.4-2 and can be skipped, so only eudev and eudev-systemdcompat could be installed.

For the tmpfiles error https://github.com/OpenRC/openrc/issues/59

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#643 2015-06-21 09:29:04

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Re: OpenRC & eudev on Arch

Thanks a lot. I used this guide (https://abchk1234.wordpress.com/2014/06 … aro-linux/)


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#644 2015-06-21 09:45:41

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Re: OpenRC & eudev on Arch

By the way, there is a new version: 0.17


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#645 2015-06-21 10:05:45

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Re: OpenRC & eudev on Arch

Is there any service available to run logrotate every day? If not, what's the best way to put in cron?


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#646 2015-06-21 17:54:30

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Re: OpenRC & eudev on Arch

Which is the key for pacman does not get error? That is, how can comment the line

#SigLevel = PackageOptional

in [openrc-eudev]?


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#647 2015-06-22 01:03:08

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Re: OpenRC & eudev on Arch

xanb wrote:

Is there any service available to run logrotate every day? If not, what's the best way to put in cron?

You could install cronie-openrc and enable the respective service, and add a logrotate cron job to /etc/cron.daily
https://github.com/notfoss/archlinux-cronjobs

xanb wrote:

Which is the key for pacman does not get error? That is, how can comment the line

#SigLevel = PackageOptional

in [openrc-eudev]?

SigLevel = PackageOptional is what I am using.

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#648 2015-06-22 07:01:22

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Re: OpenRC & eudev on Arch

aaditya wrote:
xanb wrote:

Is there any service available to run logrotate every day? If not, what's the best way to put in cron?

You could install cronie-openrc and enable the respective service, and add a logrotate cron job to /etc/cron.daily
https://github.com/notfoss/archlinux-cronjobs

xanb wrote:

Which is the key for pacman does not get error? That is, how can comment the line

#SigLevel = PackageOptional

in [openrc-eudev]?

SigLevel = PackageOptional is what I am using.

Great: your logrotate cron job is awesome. Thanks for sharing it with us.

On the other hand, tell me "paranoid" ;-) but I want to sign my packages. What is the keys used in [openrc-eudev] packages?


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#649 2015-06-22 07:24:59

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Re: OpenRC & eudev on Arch

Can you include pkgstats cron job:

# cat pkgstats 
#!/bin/sh

# nicenesses range from -20 (most favorable scheduling) to 19 (least favorable)
NICE=19

# 0 for none, 1 for real time, 2 for best-effort, 3 for idle
IONICE_CLASS=2

# 0-7 (for IONICE_CLASS 1 and 2 only), 0=highest, 7=lowest
IONICE_PRIORITY=7

CMD_PKGSTATS="/usr/bin/pkgstats -q"

if [ -x /usr/bin/nice ]; then
  CMD_PKGSTATS="/usr/bin/nice -n ${NICE:-19} ${CMD_PKGSTATS}"
fi

if [ -x /usr/bin/ionice ]; then
  IONICE_CMD="/usr/bin/ionice -c ${IONICE_CLASS:-2}"
  if [ $IONICE_CLASS -ne 3 ]; then
    IONICE_CMD="${IONICE_CMD} -n ${IONICE_PRIORITY:-7}"
  fi
  CMD_PKGSTATS="${IONICE_CMD} ${CMD_PKGSTATS}"
fi

${CMD_PKGSTATS}

exit 0

I copied from you and from systemd profile. Is there any way to run it with user nobody (systemd does)?

Thanks,


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#650 2015-06-22 16:30:29

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Re: OpenRC & eudev on Arch

xanb wrote:

Great: your logrotate cron job is awesome. Thanks for sharing it with us.

On the other hand, tell me "paranoid" ;-) but I want to sign my packages. What is the keys used in [openrc-eudev] packages?

Cron job repo is by x33a.

Package signing was removed, because of two reasons: 1. there are two maintainers now, 2. signed package seem to cause more errors than unsigned ones.
If you are concerned about security you could build it yourself, source is available as I have mentioned before.

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