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#1 2012-11-12 12:40:43

vovotux
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Can't mount internal partitions whithout root password

I've been making the transition to systemd as the required updates. After last pacman -Syu, when polkit was updated, I could no longer access the CD/DVD, USB devices and the not listed in /etc/fstab internal partitions, due to permissions errors.
I have tried searching the forums and found this topic: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1185531.
As suggested there I've added init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd to the kernel parameters in grub2 and then I can access the CD/DVD and USB devices but to access the internal partitions root password is required.
Searching the forums again I found this https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=152057 and follow the sugestion by creating the file /etc/polkit-1/rules.d/10-mount-system.rules. This doesn't work for me. So I created rc-local.service, as recommended in the same topic. Still doesn't work.
Came back to search foruns and found this: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1189842. I've replaced the old /etc/polkit-1/rules.d/10-mount-system.rules by 10-udisks2.rules with the follow content:

// See the polkit(8) man page for more information
// about configuring polkit.

// Allow udisks2 to mount devices without authentication
// for users in the "storage" group.
polkit.addRule(function(action, subject) {
    if ((action.id == "org.freedesktop.udisks.filesystem-mount-system" ||
         action.id == "org.freedesktop.udisks.filesystem-mount") &&
    subject.isInGroup("storage")) {
        return polkit.Result.YES;
    }
});

Still doesn't work

And replace by:

polkit.addRule(function(action, subject) {
    if ((action.id == "org.freedesktop.udisks.filesystem-mount-system-internal") && subject.isInGroup("storage")) {
        return polkit.Result.YES;
    }
});

This is the output of loginctl session-status $XDG_SESSION_ID

1 - vovo (1000)
           Since: Mon, 2012-11-12 10:05:03 BRST; 7min ago
          Leader: 319 (kdm)
            Seat: seat0; vc7
         Display: :0
         Service: kde-np; type x11; class user
           State: active
          CGroup: name=systemd:/user/vovo/1
                  ├  319 -:0
                  ├  321 /bin/sh /usr/bin/startkde
                  ├  332 /usr/bin/dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session
                  ├  333 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 4 --print-address 6 --se...
                  ├  356 /usr/bin/gpg-agent -s --daemon --pinentry-program /usr/bin/pinen...
                  ├  359 /usr/bin/ssh-agent -s
                  ├  373 /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/start_kdeinit +kcminit_startup
                  ├  374 kdeinit4: kdeinit4 Running...
                  ├  379 kdeinit4: klauncher [kdeinit] --fd=9
                  ├  383 kdeinit4: kded4 [kdeinit]
                  ├  397 kdeinit4: kglobalaccel [kdeinit]
                  ├  399 /usr/bin/kactivitymanagerd
                  ├  425 kwrapper4 ksmserver
                  ├  426 kdeinit4: ksmserver [kdeinit]
                  ├  465 kwin -session 108d976f6e000134271139000000007290000_1352721857_3...
                  ├  492 /usr/bin/knotify4
                  ├  507 kdeinit4: plasma-desktop [kdeinit]
                  ├  525 ksysguardd
                  ├  530 /usr/bin/kuiserver
                  ├  549 /usr/bin/akonadi_control
                  ├  551 akonadiserver
                  ├  554 /usr/bin/mysqld --defaults-file=/home/vovo/.local/share/akonadi/...
                  ├  585 /usr/bin/kwrited
                  ├  586 kdeinit4: nepomukserver [kdeinit]
                  ├  590 /usr/bin/nepomukservicestub nepomukstorage
                  ├  594 kdeinit4: krunner [kdeinit]
                  ├  607 /usr/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_akonotes_resource akonad...
                  ├  608 /usr/bin/akonadi_archivemail_agent --identifier akonadi_archivem...
                  ├  609 /usr/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_contacts_resource akonad...
                  ├  610 /usr/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_ical_resource akonadi_ic...
                  ├  611 /usr/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildir_resource akonadi...
                  ├  612 /usr/bin/akonadi_maildispatcher_agent --identifier akonadi_maild...
                  ├  613 /usr/bin/akonadi_mailfilter_agent --identifier akonadi_mailfilte...
                  ├  614 /usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_feeder --identifier akonadi_nepomuk_fee...
                  ├  650 /usr/bin/nepomukcontroller -session 108d976f6e000134271139900000...
                  ├  653 kdeinit4: kmix [kdeinit] -session 108d976f6e000134271140000000
                  ├  674 /usr/bin/virtuoso-t +foreground +configfile /tmp/virtuoso_LhX590...
                  ├  685 /opt/dropbox/dropbox
                  ├  691 /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/polkit-kde-authentication-agent-1
                  ├  692 /usr/bin/korgac --icon korgac
                  ├  693 python2 /usr/bin/printer-applet
                  ├  700 kdeinit4: klipper [kdeinit]
                  ├  747 /usr/lib/GConf/gconfd-2
                  ├  775 /usr/bin/nepomukservicestub nepomukqueryservice
                  ├  776 /usr/bin/nepomukservicestub nepomukfileindexer
                  ├  777 /usr/bin/nepomukservicestub nepomukbackupsync
                  ├  778 /usr/bin/nepomukservicestub nepomukfilewatch
                  ├  867 /opt/google/chrome/chrome
                  ├  872 /opt/google/chrome/chrome
                  ├  876 /opt/google/chrome/chrome-sandbox /opt/google/chrome/chrome --ty...
                  ├  877 /opt/google/chrome/chrome --type=zygote
                  ├  880 /opt/google/chrome/nacl_helper_bootstrap /opt/google/chrome/nacl...
                  ├  911 /opt/google/chrome/chrome --type=renderer --lang=pt-BR --force-f...
                  ├  917 /opt/google/chrome/chrome --type=renderer --lang=pt-BR --force-f...
                  ├  993 /opt/google/chrome/chrome --type=gpu-process --channel=867.5.144...
                  ├ 1008 /opt/google/chrome/chrome --type=renderer --lang=pt-BR --force-f...
                  ├ 1034 kdeinit4: kwrite [kdeinit] /home/vovo/temp/Forum erros.txt
                  ├ 1100 /opt/google/chrome/chrome --type=renderer --lang=pt-BR --force-f...
                  ├ 1180 /opt/google/chrome/chrome --type=renderer --lang=pt-BR --force-f...
                  ├ 1298 /opt/google/chrome/chrome --type=renderer --lang=pt-BR --force-f...
                  ├ 1321 kdeinit4: konsole [kdeinit]
                  ├ 1323 /bin/bash
                  ├ 1328 loginctl session-status 1
                  └ 1329 [less]

I'm tired and discouraged. Can anyone, please, to point a solution?

Last edited by vovotux (2012-11-12 13:31:31)

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#2 2012-11-12 12:54:30

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Re: Can't mount internal partitions whithout root password

Hello,

stupid question: are you in the "storage" group ? (because the rule only allows access to users into the "storage" group).

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#3 2012-11-12 12:59:08

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Re: Can't mount internal partitions whithout root password

Please tidy your post and use code tags.  You can expect more replies if it is easy to read.

code tags

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#4 2012-11-12 13:32:26

vovotux
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Re: Can't mount internal partitions whithout root password

Yes, my user is in the "storage" group.

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#5 2012-11-12 13:44:58

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Re: Can't mount internal partitions whithout root password

Does udisks2 not use "org.freedesktop.UDisks2" as it's service name? Your polkit rule is written for the original udisks.


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#6 2012-11-12 13:45:39

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Re: Can't mount internal partitions whithout root password

This is expected bahaviour. Mounting internal partitions with udisks/udisks2 requires authentication because you are supposed to use /etc/fstab for internal partitions.

The polkit rule doesn't work because it is for udisks and I assume you are using udisks2.

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#7 2012-11-14 13:11:25

vovotux
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Re: Can't mount internal partitions whithout root password

My desktop environment is KDE, that uses udisks and not udisks2.In fact, udisks(2) mounts any partition not listed in fstab. As stated in archwiki udev topic, "Simply install the udisks package, and all of your media should be automatically mounted in GNOME and KDE SC 4.6. There is no need for any additional rules this way". This was true to me before systemd, although in any others distribution to write rules in /etc/polkit-1/... or in /usr/share/polkit-1/... are required.
In the specific case, when I said internal partitions I was referring to partitions on other distributions as well as large isolated partitions where I keep personal data common to all systems, such as documents, images, sounds etc.
I can use fstab, it's true, but it involves me having to manually modify any changes in that partitions and manually add favorites to file manager panels and open/save files dialog boxes panels.

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#8 2012-11-16 09:52:20

alain
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Re: Can't mount internal partitions whithout root password

Hello everybody.

I have install a fresh install of Archlinux because I have changed my computer.
I had no problem with my previous installation of Archlinux installed a long time ago. I use xfce, gvfs and udisks2

But I have the same issue that vovotux: if i try to mount an internal partition with "mount", I had an error because I am not root.

On my old computer, I had added a pkla  file in "/etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/" in order to allow users to mount partition, but it doesn't work in the fresh install.
I may try to modify directly /usr/share/polkit-1/actions but it sounds like a bad idea.

I suppose it is due to new systemd feature (see https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PolicyKit : it indicates This article or section is out of date. Reason: Now we have systemd and java in rule config)

There is a way to allow users to mount internal partition without modifying /etc/fstab ? It works before with polkit but now I don't now how to do...

Thanks for your help

Last edited by alain (2012-11-16 09:53:24)

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#9 2012-11-16 16:44:54

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Re: Can't mount internal partitions whithout root password

alain wrote:

I use xfce, gvfs and udisks2

if i try to mount an internal partition with "mount", I had an error because I am not root

That's the default, as shown by that command:

$ pkaction --verbose --action-id org.freedesktop.udisks2.filesystem-mount-system
org.freedesktop.udisks2.filesystem-mount-system:
  description:       Mount a filesystem on a system device
  message:           Authentication is required to mount the filesystem
  vendor:            The udisks Project
  vendor_url:        http://udisks.freedesktop.org/
  icon:              drive-removable-media
  implicit any:      auth_admin
  implicit inactive: auth_admin
  implicit active:   auth_admin_keep

On my old computer, I had added a pkla  file in "/etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/" in order to allow users to mount partition

This is obsolete; you can see the current system architecture of polkit with 'man polkit'.

Now to fine tune authorizations, rule files written in JavaScript langage (not Java) must be used.

Don't touch the default global policy files in '/usr/share/polkit-1/actions'.

Examples of such rule files are given in 'man polkit'. They should be placed in '/etc/polkit-1/rules.d' directory to be preserved when updating the polkit package.
So to allow users to mount internal partition, one way is to add them to the 'storage' group and to use that rule which can be named '10-mount-system.rules':

polkit.addRule(function(action, subject) {
     if (action.id == "org.freedesktop.udisks2.filesystem-mount-system" &&
          subject.active &&
          subject.isInGroup("storage")) {
          return polkit.Result.YES;
     }
});

The user session should be active to give the authorization with that rule.
That should work after a restart of the machine.

Last edited by berbae (2012-11-16 16:47:16)

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#10 2012-11-16 18:09:01

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Re: Can't mount internal partitions whithout root password

Hi berbae,

Thanks for your help. I appreciate your explanations.

I had already created a file '10-mount-system.rules':

polkit.addRule(function(action, subject) {
   if ((action.id == "org.freedesktop.udisks2.") &&
subject.isInGroup("storage")) {
       return polkit.Result.YES;
    }
});

So from my understanding, all users in group storage should be alloawed to do all udisks2 actions

$ groups
storage users vboxusers

But it does'nt work.

I will change this file by your code, reboot and tell you the result yikes)


Thanks Again

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#11 2012-11-16 18:11:42

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Re: Can't mount internal partitions whithout root password

alain wrote:

polkit.addRule(function(action, subject) {
   if ((action.id == "org.freedesktop.udisks2.") &&
subject.isInGroup("storage")) {
       return polkit.Result.YES;
    }
});

this rule can't work because you are comparing against "org.freedesktop.udisks2." while you should compare against the actual action (.... mount-system).

but seriously, what is wrong with just using /etc/fstab ?

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#12 2012-11-16 18:19:16

alain
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Re: Can't mount internal partitions whithout root password

So I have tested

polkit.addRule(function(action, subject) {
     if (action.id == "org.freedesktop.udisks2.filesystem-mount-system" &&
          subject.active &&
          subject.isInGroup("storage")) {
          return polkit.Result.YES;
     }
});

But without success.

Concerning /etc/fstab, in fact it is because I don't know how to do with my requirements:
- /dev/sda3 is crypted with dmcrypt.
- I don't want a password is asked on boot (so I presume /etc/crypttab may use 'none' for password)
- I want to be able to execute a script after login that mount the crypted partition. Before, just calling mount /dev/sda3 was sufficent for prompting the password and mouting it.
- If a bad password is provided, it is always possible to "click" on the partition with thunar, a password is asked, and the partition is mounted.

(It is not for me, but for my family using the computer).

May be there is a wy to do it with fstab and crypttab, but i don't know how.
Allowing standard user to mount internal partition was the simplest and easiest way to achieve my goal.

Thanks for your help.

Regards

Last edited by alain (2012-11-16 18:19:52)

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#13 2012-11-16 18:21:55

alain
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Re: Can't mount internal partitions whithout root password

An idea: I presume using udisks2 because it is a fresh install of Arch, but maybe I am wrong?

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#14 2012-11-16 22:48:52

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Re: Can't mount internal partitions whithout root password

alain wrote:

I presume using udisks2

If you use gvfs you use udisks2.

/dev/sda3 is crypted with dmcrypt
...
I want to be able to execute a script after login that mount the crypted partition

I don't use encrypted partitions, but maybe what is in that script requires other authorizations to work.
In udisks2 there are among others:
     org.freedesktop.udisks2.encrypted-unlock-crypttab
     org.freedesktop.udisks2.encrypted-unlock-system
which default to auth_admin.
I don't know if you use them. Maybe posting that script could help.

Also it's not clear if your user session is active; the command 'loginctl --no-pager show-session $XDG_SESSION_ID' will tell it.

Last edited by berbae (2012-11-16 22:54:13)

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#15 2012-11-17 01:01:25

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Re: Can't mount internal partitions whithout root password

Alain,  the most important thing to do first is what berbae mentioned ( i.e.  make sure your session is active according to loginctl )

In my case ( running gnome 3.6) it shows :

 loginctl show-session $XDG_SESSION_ID
.....
Active=yes
State=active
.....

After making sure your session is active, double-check your udisks2 rule.
In the example that you posted earlier you have a case "typo"  ... try something like this :

 polkit.addRule(function(action, subject) {
               if (action.id="org.freedesktop.udisks2.filesystem-mount-system" && subject.isInGroup("wheel")) {
                       return polkit.Result.YES;
                   }
               }
           );

Note that the subject method name is in CamelCase .
In my example I used the "wheel" group instead of "storage" ....

The authentication pop-up also explicitly states the action for which authentication is required ( to be sure , verify it)
If any other action is listed, you have to deal with that as well.

One other point to note, the new javascript polkit rules take effect immediately, you can use journalctl to view the journal log and verify that the rules were applied successfully.
E.g. in my case :

 journalctl -b -u polkit 
....
 arch polkitd[113]: Loading rules from directory /etc/polkit-1/rules.d
 arch polkitd[113]: Loading rules from directory /usr/share/polkit-1/rules.d
 arch polkitd[113]: Finished loading, compiling and executing 3 rules
....

Hope this info is helpful

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#16 2012-11-17 08:29:44

alain
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Re: Can't mount internal partitions whithout root password

Hi everybody,

I had tried:

loginctl show-session $XDG_SESSION_ID
(...)
Active=yes
State=active
(...)

To mount crypted partition, other authorizations are needed. But actualy, I only just try to mount decrypted partiton (root has "luksopen" the crypted partition to /dev/mapper, and I try to mount /dev/mapper/DECRYPTED partition). The "mount" command tell me only root can do that.
May be I have to add other autorizations anyway?

I had change my rule file:

polkit.addRule(function(action, subject) {
        if (action.id="org.freedesktop.udisks2.filesystem-mount-system" && subject.isInGroup("storage")) {
                return polkit.Result.YES;
                }
        }
);

and check by

journalctl -b -u polkit

(...)
Nov 17 09:21:53 PCFixe polkitd[387]: Reloading rules
Nov 17 09:21:53 PCFixe polkitd[387]: Collecting garbage unconditionally...
Nov 17 09:21:53 PCFixe polkitd[387]: Loading rules from directory /etc/polkit-1/rules.d
Nov 17 09:21:53 PCFixe polkitd[387]: Loading rules from directory /usr/share/polkit-1/rules.d
Nov 17 09:21:53 PCFixe polkitd[387]: Finished loading, compiling and executing 2 rules
(...)

So all seems ok.

But:

$ mount /dev/sda3 ./test/
mount: seul le superutilisateur peut exécuter cette commande (--> only root can execute this command)

/dev/sda3 is crypted, so with root I "luksOpen" it on /dev/mapper/DECRYPTED

cryptsetup luksOpen --allow-discards /dev/sda3 DECRYPTED
Saisissez la phrase secrète pour /dev/sda3 :

I try to mount it with my user

$ mount /dev/mapper/DECRYPTED ./test/
mount: seul le superutilisateur peut exécuter cette commande (--> only root can execute this command)

An idea: may be /dev/mapper devices are not considered as "filesystem-mount-system" ??

Thanks for your help, I appreciate it.

Best regards.
Alain

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#17 2012-11-17 08:41:24

alain
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Re: Can't mount internal partitions whithout root password

I also tried as described in http://wiki.archlinux.fr/Polkit

polkit.addRule(function(action, subject) {
        if (action.id.indexOf ('org.freedesktop.udisks2.') == 0 && subject.user == 'userLogin'){
                return polkit.Result.YES;
                }
        }
);

without success.

I also tried
action.id=="org....  or action.id="org.... (1 or 2 equals), without success.

Strange strange.....

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#18 2012-11-17 09:50:43

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Re: Can't mount internal partitions whithout root password

The comparison symbol is == not = as seen wrongly in your post #16, and to be safe you'd better keep the spaces around it ' == '.

In your post #17 'userLogin' should be replaced with the real login name; and that rule gives too much authorizations to a user: s/he will be authorized to do everything using udisks2; I don't think it's a good idea.

Finally if you use directly the 'mount' command, then udisks2 is not used; to use the udisks2 polkit rule you need to mount through udisks2 with:

udisksctl mount --block-device /dev/mapper/DECRYPTED

if '/dev/mapper/DECRYPTED' is a block device.

opensrcrox wrote:

One other point to note, the new javascript polkit rules take effect immediately

Thanks for that, I was not sure if a restart was necessary; and it is not, nice.

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#19 2012-11-17 12:25:33

alain
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Re: Can't mount internal partitions whithout root password

Hi berbae,

berbae wrote:

In your post #17 'userLogin' should be replaced with the real login name; and that rule gives too much authorizations to a user: s/he will be authorized to do everything using udisks2; I don't think it's a good idea.

Yes, userlogin is remplaced by my real login name (replaced to not show my real name here smile)
I give all authorizations to be sure that nothing is link to crypted devices or missing  authorizations.

berbae wrote:

Finally if you use directly the 'mount' command, then udisks2 is not used; to use the udisks2 polkit rule you need to mount through udisks2 with:

udisksctl mount --block-device /dev/mapper/DECRYPTED

if '/dev/mapper/DECRYPTED' is a block device.

You're a Killer! I don't know that. Before with old architecture, mount was sufficient.
With 'udisksctl mount' it works!!

Thanks very much for the explanations.

BUT....

$ udisksctl mount -b /dev/mapper/DECRYPTED -o discard
Error mounting /dev/dm-0: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.UDisks2.Error.OptionNotPermitted: Mount option `discard' is not allowed

In order to optimize SSD, discard option must be passed (ok, it is less secure, but I sufficient for my usage).
Any idea?

Moreover, do you know how to do to force thunar to use udisksctl when mounting ?

And finally smile
If i try to mount directly the crypted partition, it doesn't work (but with old architecture it worked).

udisksctl mount -b /dev/sda3
Object /org/freedesktop/UDisks2/block_devices/sda3 is not a mountable filesystem.

Although I have allowed all udisks2 actions, I don't know how to allow user to launch cryptsetup command (but may be i should open a new thread for this, don't know if it is related...)

Thanks again!!

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#20 2012-11-17 12:33:09

alain
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Re: Can't mount internal partitions whithout root password

Ok, I have the answer for the last points:

udisksctl unlock -b /dev/sda3

But it doesn't allow to give option like --allow-discards....

Cheers

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#21 2012-11-17 15:59:27

berbae
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From: France
Registered: 2007-02-12
Posts: 1,172

Re: Can't mount internal partitions whithout root password

alain wrote:

But it doesn't allow to give option like --allow-discards....

Unhappily, presently udisks2 is very restrictive towards mount options, it considers almost all options as unsafe and reject them.
I think the only solution is to ask udisks2 developers to permit more options, as a feature request for future releases.

Concerning the Thunar file manager, I don't use it but if configured to use gvfs, which uses the udisks2 API, the udisks2 polkit rule should work with it also.
But I cannot help you about how to configure Thunar, I never used it; neither have I any experience with the cryptsetup command.

But it's nice you partially solved your authorization problem with mounting. Bye!

@vovotux this thread's owner: at what point have you arrived with your problem in KDE, which still uses udisks1 as dependency?

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#22 2012-11-19 06:09:01

bhante
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Registered: 2008-05-20
Posts: 22

Re: Can't mount internal partitions whithout root password

Try this:

/etc/polkit-1/rules.d/10-udisks2.rules

// Allow udisks2 to mount devices without authentication
polkit.addRule(function(action, subject) {
if (action.id == "org.freedesktop.udisks2.filesystem-mount-system" ||
     action.id == "org.freedesktop.udisks2.filesystem-mount" ||
     action.id == "org.freedesktop.udisks.filesystem-mount-system-internal") {
       return polkit.Result.YES;
   }
});

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#23 2013-02-04 11:45:00

khampf
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Registered: 2012-08-08
Posts: 8

Re: Can't mount internal partitions whithout root password

Using the Workaround to mount filesytems by user in group storage without password does not work either. But I've noticed that everytime I try to mount a firewire partition the following is in the syslog/polkit journal:

polkitd[PID]: Identity `unix-group:wheel' is not valid, ignoring

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#24 2013-02-04 13:44:53

sl1pkn07
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From: Spanishtán
Registered: 2010-03-30
Posts: 314

Re: Can't mount internal partitions whithout root password

same here

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