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gen2arch

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Registered: 2013-05-16

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Re: FULLY SOLVED 3.10.3: arch kernel of death -- black screen after boot

This issue will finally be solved in Linux 3.12!

Check out this post of the maintainer of the relevant code in the linux kernel:

https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59841#c237

gen2arch

gen2arch

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Re: FULLY SOLVED 3.10.3: arch kernel of death -- black screen after boot

I can confirm that kernel 3.12 solves the problem. I checked out linus' kernel git tree, compiled without any patch applied, installed and rebooted, and everything works like it did in pre-3.10 kernels!

So luckily this is truly resolved.

gen2arch

bpont

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Registered: 2010-03-24

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Re: FULLY SOLVED 3.10.3: arch kernel of death -- black screen after boot

I can confirm that kernel 3.12 solves the problem. I checked out linus' kernel git tree, compiled without any patch applied, installed and rebooted, and everything works like it did in pre-3.10 kernels!

So luckily this is truly resolved.

gen2arch

I just upgraded to 3.12.  The system update also upgraded the nvidia-304xx driver supporting my geforce 6200.  Then I rebooted to the grub menu and edited my boot line; removing "nomodeset," but during boot I still got the same black screen as before the update.  So as of 3.12, I still need "nomodeset" to boot normally and avoid the black screen.

gen2arch

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Registered: 2013-05-16

Posts: 182

Re: FULLY SOLVED 3.10.3: arch kernel of death -- black screen after boot

I can confirm that kernel 3.12 solves the problem. I checked out linus' kernel git tree, compiled without any patch applied, installed and rebooted, and everything works like it did in pre-3.10 kernels!

So luckily this is truly resolved.

gen2arch

I just upgraded to 3.12.  The system update also upgraded the nvidia-304xx driver supporting my geforce 6200.  Then I rebooted to the grub menu and edited my boot line; removing "nomodeset," but during boot I still got the same black screen as before the update.  So as of 3.12, I still need "nomodeset" to boot normally and avoid the black screen.

bpont: so did I, just upgraded to the standard Arch linux kernel 3.12.0-1, and it does work! there is no longer the black screen during boot, that was introduced with kernel 3.10.3.

But I do use INTEL graphics, not nvidia; so it would seem that your problem is more related to nvidia cards, and therefore not to the i915 driver problems this thread mainly was about.

bpont

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Registered: 2010-03-24

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Re: FULLY SOLVED 3.10.3: arch kernel of death -- black screen after boot

I can confirm that kernel 3.12 solves the problem. I checked out linus' kernel git tree, compiled without any patch applied, installed and rebooted, and everything works like it did in pre-3.10 kernels!

So luckily this is truly resolved.

gen2arch

I just upgraded to 3.12.  The system update also upgraded the nvidia-304xx driver supporting my geforce 6200.  Then I rebooted to the grub menu and edited my boot line; removing "nomodeset," but during boot I still got the same black screen as before the update.  So as of 3.12, I still need "nomodeset" to boot normally and avoid the black screen.

bpont: so did I, just upgraded to the standard Arch linux kernel 3.12.0-1, and it does work! there is no longer the black screen during boot, that was introduced with kernel 3.10.3.

But I do use INTEL graphics, not nvidia; so it would seem that your problem is more related to nvidia cards, and therefore not to the i915 driver problems this thread mainly was about.

I didn't realize this thread was card-specific.  My apologies.  In any case, a quick google search shows that this black screen issue brings up many threads on many different forums affecting various hardware.  I don't agree that the problem relates to particular hardware, but should still be acknowledged as a kernel bug (that has been apparently patched to address your particular hardware).  Other users are still affected.  I haven't delved too deeply into the whole issue, but apparently it's related to KMS.  I would still classify this as a kernel bug related to KMS because, if affected, KMS completely disables the system during boot.  It's impossible to Alt + Ctrl F[x] to get to a different TTY.  The user is forced to unplug the computer and do a hard reboot.  Obviously, the kernel devs must think it's a bug too if they've added a patch to address the issue which has benefited your particular hardware, but obviously other hardware is still affected by this.

Lone_Wolf

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Re: FULLY SOLVED 3.10.3: arch kernel of death -- black screen after boot

bpont :

KMS is only used by the open source drivers, and for nvidia the OSS driver is called nouveau.
If pacman upgraded the nvidia-304xx driver, you seem to be using the proprietary nvidia driver, which DOES NOT use KMS.

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bpont

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Re: FULLY SOLVED 3.10.3: arch kernel of death -- black screen after boot

bpont :

KMS is only used by the open source drivers, and for nvidia the OSS driver is called nouveau.
If pacman upgraded the nvidia-304xx driver, you seem to be using the proprietary nvidia driver, which DOES NOT use KMS.

Yes, I installed the proprietary driver and blacklisted nouveau.  But if KMS and my driver don't talk to each other, then why do I get the black screen / system freeze up when I remove 'nomodeset?'

Edit: ...and why was there a kernel patch apparently applied to this issue in 3.12?

Last edited by bpont (2013-11-15 19:43:54)

benz3k3

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Registered: 2017-04-04

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Re: FULLY SOLVED 3.10.3: arch kernel of death -- black screen after boot

Tried downgrading to previous version, didnt work. Rebuilding arch linux worked.
Try this after booting from live cd:
mount /dev/sdcX /mnt
arch-chroot /mnt /bin/bash
pacman -Syu mkinitcpio systemd linux

ewaller

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Registered: 2009-07-13

Posts: 19,774

Re: FULLY SOLVED 3.10.3: arch kernel of death -- black screen after boot

benz3k3,

Welcome to the Arch Linux forums.  You have stumbled upon a 3 year old thread about an ancient kernel (3.10).  We are on kernel 4.10.
A lot of water has gone under the bridge.

I am going to close this old thread, but feel free to start a new thread if you are having issues with a modern kernel.

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