Connect to wifi to install arch linux.

divinefishersmith · 2015-07-29 08:58:18

Hi my name is Divine, Yes I'm a noob and for this specific question you may tell me to go ahead and read the wiki,. which I already did. guess what? your right! I'm here cause I'm lost and I cant really understand a lot from that wiki,.maybe not yet. LOLs.

ok so all I have is a WIFI connection. after partitioning up-to pacstrap and chroot I can no longer proceed because I dont have internet connection.

So I look in the wiki page about the wireless connection. and theres wifi-menu etc. you can call me an idiot but honestly it didnt help me. Ive checked tutorials on youtube but those geniuses on the tutorials didnt help either,. well the thing is we do have different learning styles, one reason I cant understand a lot yet from the wiki. I learn from watching and hearing. So I really hope you guys can understand me at this point.

I still try to check for same questions that have been solved already, and I all of a sudden I was in this page where one is askin the same thing.
heres the website this one is SOLVED however since I'm an idiot. I just want to clarify how the resolution was done.

the question is almost the same like mine.
http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l53 … jhw4q5.png
but how is this thing done? "Start the livedisk again, remount your drives archroot into your root partition and then install the packages you need and everything should work."
http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l53 … 0jxuxk.png

Well I actually tried to pacman -S dialog on chroot and it gives me endless errors. PLEASE HELP!!

P.S : the errors are still running by the time I'm writing this post o_O

Last edited by jasonwryan (2015-07-29 09:17:36)

jasonwryan · 2015-07-29 09:17:09

First, don't post images of text. Second, read the Forum Etiquette and only post thumbnails http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/For … s_and_Code

Finally, "endless errors" means nothing: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=57855

Read How To Ask Questions The Smart Way and include some relevant information in your post: card, driver, actual error messages when you work methodically through the wifi page to connect manually.

Chazza · 2015-07-29 10:43:09

Divine, I know it's tempting to read guides and watch youtube videos but this really isn't helpful in the long run, especially if you don't understand what you're doing. The only way you get a firm foundation is to go methodically through the beginners' guide, reading through each section until you understand it and completing each step. The "geniuses in the tutorials" should be ignored - they very often dispense bad advice or at least out of date advice. Likewise, trying to find answers to your questions on stackexchange is a hopeless endeavour if you don't really know what you're looking for.

"ok so all I have is a WIFI connection. after partitioning up-to pacstrap and chroot I can no longer proceed because I dont have internet connection."

So if I'm understanding this correctly, you've partitioned but you're unable to run pacstrap because you're not connected. Basically, you just run wifi-menu and select your access point from the list. There's no need to install dialog or anything like that. All the packages you need are already on the Arch cd. And by the way, wifi-menu should be run before you chroot, not after. You should chroot once you have successfully run pacstrap and then genfstab as per the beginners' guide.

Last edited by Chazza (2015-07-29 10:46:12)

ewaller · 2015-07-29 14:16:05

If I may, as you read the article Jason Linked (also linked in my signature), read the bits about self deprecation, it is not only ineffective, it is off putting. Yes, it is good to relate your skill level so that answers can be tailored. But leave it at that.

Looking at Chazza's question, I have to ask, did you have an internet connection prior to attempting to run pacstrap? Sadly, I am behind a firewall that blocks your pretty pictures.

divinefishersmith · 2015-07-30 00:26:05

ewaller wrote:

Looking at Chazza's question, I have to ask, did you have an internet connection prior to attempting to run pacstrap? Sadly, I am behind a firewall that blocks your pretty pictures.

I'm running ubuntu right now with gnome flashback,. and I can connect to the wifi without any problem even during the installation. So before I go trying the whole thing on my whole pc I want to go ahead and try it first on a virtualbox. So I succesfully did install one watching few vids and a dummie article on a blogspot, you know the way people with low level of intelligence do? NOT ReAding the f manual? well anyways, theres a point when I was actually thinking that I did follow the whole thing with an Internet connection, but doing that without ubuntu means no internet connection. So thats when I try to search for the wireless connection process,. by disconnecting the ubuntu connection and try establishing wifi connection within the arch linux installation under virtualbox. thats what brought me here.

this is what I get when I type

wifi-menu

Invalid Interface specification
Usage: wifi-menu [-h | --help] [-o | --obscure] [INTERFACE]

Interactively connect to a wireless network on INTERFACE using netctl.
If only one wireless interface is available, INTERFACE can be omitted.

Arguments:
  -h, --help          Show this help
  -o, --obscure     Show asterisks for the characters of the password 
                                 and store the password as a hexadecimal string

It really looks like self deprecation. but its actually an Irony. pointing to the fact that we may like the same things but we are not the same on HOW we like things. I'm not like those people who, when they first saw the arch-wiki they already understand a lot from it. I mean I'm still not losing hope to understand it soon. for I know my learning style, I learn gradually in different ways. seeing, listening, coaching, etc.? a few more actually. but thats just how it is. I can still recall one quote from a customer care department "respect difference" and I do know that not all people will understand my perception. I mean maybe even the developers of arch will tell me to read the f**cking manual/wiki. but I know theres still a lot there who knows how to learn things the way that I do. xD and I would love to talk to those people you know? even if geniuses consider them as an idiot.

jasonwryan · 2015-07-30 00:29:52

You aren't an idiot, but Arch is clearly not a good fit for you. Just as different learning styles suit different people, distros are the same.

There is nothing magical about Arch, but it does require a lot of reading. If you are happy with Ubuntu, stick with that, you are not missing out on anything.

divinefishersmith · 2015-07-30 01:29:10

jasonwryan wrote:

You aren't an idiot, but Arch is clearly not a good fit for you. Just as different learning styles suit different people, distros are the same.
There is nothing magical about Arch, but it does require a lot of reading. If you are happy with Ubuntu, stick with that, you are not missing out on anything.

indeed but a person is still far different from things like distros. you can tell me not to use arch because its not for me. but you cant tell me to stop learning using my learning style, or maybe its not really your point there but I'm not excluding reading in my learning phase., its just a fact that a lot excludes other learning styles aside from reading. and I'm not expecting to learn all of this in one shot, I'm a slow learner and I would rather learn interacting with other people. well dont worry I'm actually reading the wiki and asking whats the meaning of something on few or more forums., for me to understand it part by part. by the way thanks for the advise appreciate it.

ewaller · 2015-07-30 03:35:22

Getting wireless to work under Virtualbox is not going to work. At all. The machine on which Arch is running under VB is an imaginary machine running on imaginary hardware. There is an imaginary wired network between the imaginary network card in the VM and an imaginary card on the host. That is it. There is no wireless capability in the VM. Check it out; in the VM, check your hardware with lsmod. Any resemblance to the physical hardware on the host is pure coincidence. The guest OS gets connectivity by the host creating a bridge to or by providing NAT forwarding for that "Virtual" network to one of its real-world physical networks.

If you want to try the wifi networking, boot an Arch install media. Follow the beginner's guide in our wiki, and prove that you can establish a wireless connection. If that works, you are good to go.
If you want to stay in the VM under VB, follow the instructions for having a wired Ethernet. Just make sure the host has real-world connectivity; it does not matter if it is wired or wireless -- the virtual environment will not be the wiser.

oscor · 2018-09-15 04:19:31

jasonwryan wrote:

First, don't post images of text. Second, read the Forum Etiquette and only post thumbnails http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/For … s_and_Code
Finally, "endless errors" means nothing: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=57855

Read How To Ask Questions The Smart Way and include some relevant information in your post: card, driver, actual error messages when you work methodically through the wifi page to connect manually.

Thats a very rude way to lead new users to ArchLinux!!! I dont agree!

jasonwryan · 2018-09-15 04:37:29

Fine, don't agree.

And don't necrobump: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Co … bumping.22

Closing

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Connect to wifi to install arch linux.

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