sexy text based system

jellywerker · 2006-04-10 02:19:50

This is stemming from a few posts of earlier discussion with komodo about his beautiful january screenshot when I suggested figuring out the basics for a nice, pretty, light cli system. So here's some oftware ideas, and maybe komodo can hop in and add more.

so here we go

terminal with color

music: mpd + ncmpc

video: mplayer

web: links (or elinks, or links 2 or links hacked or w3m, etc... probably links)

text: vim and nano (for large and small jobs respectively)

some console games (tetris, etc...)

cd or dvdrecord + bashburn

centericq

epic for irc? or bitchx, etc...?

screen

This would almost be a cool setup for a 50mb arch-live cd, have to add some more stuff for that though, like tools, etc... Perhaps the creator of minimax could help. More of a distro to turn an old pc useful than a rescue distro though.

elasticdog · 2006-04-10 02:45:25

Cool list idea. I'm in the process of setting up a headless server that I'll probably use for testing stuff and a subversion repository, etc. A list of stuff like this will come in handy for when I'm forced to stay on the command-line only. It would make an interesting live cd as well.

I'm curious...what is your prefered CLI web browser? I have lynx installed, but haven't fooled around with many others.

jellywerker · 2006-04-10 03:01:34

I use lynx when I need a command line browser, but I don't really like it, though that's not really it's fault, mostly because webpages aren't made for text browsers anymore, and thus are formatted badly in text mode. That's why I think links or similar that can do graphical browsing in text mode would be good.

magnum_opus · 2006-04-10 03:03:49

http://a.psychology.uiowa.edu/nestor/robohack.html

are there any sort-of semi-wysiwyg word processors for the cli?

also pine/mutt of course

jellywerker · 2006-04-10 03:09:03

I'm not sure, I like nano, but I don't think it's wysiwyg, or close.

That game looks cool, I haven't played what it's based on, so is it fun?

pine mutt of course, also perhaps gift+giftcurs (one of the nicest cli interfaces in any app I have seen) also, perhaps an rss reader?

mcubed · 2006-04-10 03:18:41

abcde for ripping audio CDs. crip is cool too, but the later versions only do ogg/flac; abcde does mp3/ogg/flac and probably anything else you have an encoder for. Both use cdparanoia. crip is better for ripping classical music, though.

w3m for a quick look-up of something on the web.

bittorrent-curses, though there are a couple of others that might be better. I just haven't tried them yet. rtorrent or ctorrent, maybe.

And vim and nano, of course!

jellywerker · 2006-04-10 03:29:44

and mc, a necessity!

iphitus · 2006-04-10 06:15:15

If only there were an awesome web browser that worked at the command line, and provided CSS and tab support...

Then X would be long gone for me....... I wonder if it's possible to get cairo to render to a framebuffer, then you could theoretically run gtk apps on a fb..

James

Cam · 2006-04-10 06:39:42

iphitus wrote:

I wonder if it's possible to get cairo to render to a framebuffer, then you could theoretically run gtk apps on a fb..

http://www.directfb.org/wiki/index.php/ … n_DirectFB

Linky for you

iphitus · 2006-04-10 06:57:31

Cam wrote:

iphitus wrote:
I wonder if it's possible to get cairo to render to a framebuffer, then you could theoretically run gtk apps on a fb..
http://www.directfb.org/wiki/index.php/ … n_DirectFB
Linky for you

Last time i saw that it was way outta date... looks different now, I'll check it now and report how I go

James

tomk · 2006-04-10 08:20:28

Interesting, but drifting OT. The OP said text-based - not a description you could apply to GTK stuff, regardless of how it is run.

postlogic · 2006-04-10 08:41:13

links can be patched to support tabs.

wain · 2006-04-10 11:41:15

It could be nice to use dillo with gtk_on_directfb 8)

this version with tabs and many improvements is really cool !!

Chris|MD · 2006-04-10 11:45:42

irc: irssi
mail: muttng

You can get graphics under the framebuffer with links compiled with graphics-support. And with gpmsupport you can even use the mouse.
Java is supported too. CSS im not sure, looks like its only half implented (or even 0%?!).
Colors of Text on the archlinux.org website works but no backgroundcolor and such things

Oh and zsh can really help too!

iphitus · 2006-04-10 12:01:34

links has no/poor css. anyway, I went down the path of directfb, got it working with gtk, but It's not going to work with mozilla without some heavy codework, as mozilla uses raw x calls.

gtk has a fb output, however it's practically unmaintained and doesnt compile. I'm not really in a mood to digg through it's code and fix it.

dillo won't compile with directfb as it's gtk1 and directfb only supports gtk2. And gtk1 doesnt seem to even have a fb output.

last thing I have left to try is XDirectFB, though it doesnt look well maintained.

anyway, relevance to this thread? it'd be nice to have a browser to use without having to start an X session, and such a browser would compliment a CLI based setup well. No X is a lot of space saved on the suggested 50mb liveCD in the first post.
And IMHO, the web is pretty tedious when browsed in a CLI text browser, so getting a graphical one running without X would be way cool.

if I get anything useful running on it, ill post my GTK on DFB pkgbuilds. They're a hack to build though, not because of DFB, but because for some unknown reason, GTK CVS requires automake 1.7, even though the latest GTK release, builds fine with 1.9...

edit: I'll fiddle with this thing tommorow: http://directfb.org/index.php/viewcvs.c … tkWebCore/

James

tomk · 2006-04-10 12:33:11

Don't get me wrong, iph - GTK/DFB looks like good stuff, but I think it deserves its own thread. The showcase example on the site is The Gimp, and nobody's going to convince me that The Gimp is text-based just because you run it without X.

But hey - it probably isn't the first time a thread's gone OT, is it?

iphitus · 2006-04-10 12:37:02

tomk wrote:

Don't get me wrong, iph - GTK/DFB looks like good stuff, but I think it deserves its own thread. The showcase example on the site is The Gimp, and nobody's going to convince me that The Gimp is text-based just because you run it without X.
But hey - it probably isn't the first time a thread's gone OT, is it?

This would almost be a cool setup for a 50mb arch-live cd, have to add some more stuff for that though, like tools, etc...

according to the first post, im on topic at worst, im on a tangent.

the primary reason for text based tools in such a project would be to avoid X. not to avoid gui apps alltogether. anyway. I didnt say anything about gimp

tomk · 2006-04-10 13:00:09

OK - you win. No hard feelings.

*mutter* *"text-based"* *mutter* *"cli system"* *mutter* *bloody devs, think they know it all.....* *mutter* ....

barjo · 2006-04-10 14:56:29

bitlbee ( http://www.bitlbee.org/ ) for instant messaging (jabber, msn, icq, ... in your irc client)

phrakture · 2006-04-10 15:52:01

elinks supports tabs, and javascript - sure the css may suck, but um, it's text.... wtf kind of css support do you want?

test1000 · 2006-04-10 16:39:46

anyone tried arachne then? i couldn't get it to work but i have in the past.

check out: http://home.arachne.cz/ i think that's the url, arachne supports ggi and svgalib.

magnum_opus · 2006-04-10 16:41:47

jellywerker wrote:

That game looks cool, I haven't played what it's based on, so is it fun?

you've never played Robotron?
okay get mame and download the roms for robotron and smash tv. or alternatively i know one of the various williams arcade collections for consoles have them.

also if you have a decent computer
http://www.puppygames.net/ ultratron
http://www.pompomgames.com/mutantstorm.htm

Chris|MD · 2006-04-10 18:01:46

phrakture wrote:

elinks supports tabs, and javascript - sure the css may suck, but um, it's text.... wtf kind of css support do you want?

Well with links -g you could get the same colors/other features you would get in firefox.
Or with textoutput the color of the text/background could be the one defined in the stylesheet. That would be interesting

phrakture · 2006-04-11 01:52:01

Chris|MD wrote:

phrakture wrote:
elinks supports tabs, and javascript - sure the css may suck, but um, it's text.... wtf kind of css support do you want?
Well with links -g you could get the same colors/other features you would get in firefox.
Or with textoutput the color of the text/background could be the one defined in the stylesheet. That would be interesting

links -g, while awesome, doesn't count for a 'text based' system, but that may be my interpretation - I use elinks for quick lookups

Chris|MD · 2006-04-11 13:48:03

Well then would be mplayer forbidden too. Only allowed with libcaca

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