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This is stemming from a few posts of earlier discussion with komodo about his beautiful january screenshot when I suggested figuring out the basics for a nice, pretty, light cli system. So here's some oftware ideas, and maybe komodo can hop in and add more.
so here we go
terminal with color
music: mpd + ncmpc
video: mplayer
web: links (or elinks, or links 2 or links hacked or w3m, etc... probably links)
text: vim and nano (for large and small jobs respectively)
some console games (tetris, etc...)
cd or dvdrecord + bashburn
centericq
epic for irc? or bitchx, etc...?
screen
This would almost be a cool setup for a 50mb arch-live cd, have to add some more stuff for that though, like tools, etc... Perhaps the creator of minimax could help. More of a distro to turn an old pc useful than a rescue distro though.
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Cool list idea. I'm in the process of setting up a headless server that I'll probably use for testing stuff and a subversion repository, etc. A list of stuff like this will come in handy for when I'm forced to stay on the command-line only. It would make an interesting live cd as well.
I'm curious...what is your prefered CLI web browser? I have lynx installed, but haven't fooled around with many others.
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I use lynx when I need a command line browser, but I don't really like it, though that's not really it's fault, mostly because webpages aren't made for text browsers anymore, and thus are formatted badly in text mode. That's why I think links or similar that can do graphical browsing in text mode would be good.
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http://a.psychology.uiowa.edu/nestor/robohack.html
are there any sort-of semi-wysiwyg word processors for the cli?
also pine/mutt of course
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I'm not sure, I like nano, but I don't think it's wysiwyg, or close.
That game looks cool, I haven't played what it's based on, so is it fun?
pine mutt of course, also perhaps gift+giftcurs (one of the nicest cli interfaces in any app I have seen) also, perhaps an rss reader?
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abcde for ripping audio CDs. crip is cool too, but the later versions only do ogg/flac; abcde does mp3/ogg/flac and probably anything else you have an encoder for. Both use cdparanoia. crip is better for ripping classical music, though.
w3m for a quick look-up of something on the web.
bittorrent-curses, though there are a couple of others that might be better. I just haven't tried them yet. rtorrent or ctorrent, maybe.
And vim and nano, of course!
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and mc, a necessity!
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If only there were an awesome web browser that worked at the command line, and provided CSS and tab support...
Then X would be long gone for me....... I wonder if it's possible to get cairo to render to a framebuffer, then you could theoretically run gtk apps on a fb..
James
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I wonder if it's possible to get cairo to render to a framebuffer, then you could theoretically run gtk apps on a fb..
http://www.directfb.org/wiki/index.php/ … n_DirectFB
Linky for you
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iphitus wrote:I wonder if it's possible to get cairo to render to a framebuffer, then you could theoretically run gtk apps on a fb..
http://www.directfb.org/wiki/index.php/ … n_DirectFB
Linky for you
Last time i saw that it was way outta date... looks different now, I'll check it now and report how I go
James
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Interesting, but drifting OT. The OP said text-based - not a description you could apply to GTK stuff, regardless of how it is run.
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links can be patched to support tabs.
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irc: irssi
mail: muttng
You can get graphics under the framebuffer with links compiled with graphics-support. And with gpmsupport you can even use the mouse.
Java is supported too. CSS im not sure, looks like its only half implented (or even 0%?!).
Colors of Text on the archlinux.org website works but no backgroundcolor and such things
Oh and zsh can really help too!
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links has no/poor css. anyway, I went down the path of directfb, got it working with gtk, but It's not going to work with mozilla without some heavy codework, as mozilla uses raw x calls.
gtk has a fb output, however it's practically unmaintained and doesnt compile. I'm not really in a mood to digg through it's code and fix it.
dillo won't compile with directfb as it's gtk1 and directfb only supports gtk2. And gtk1 doesnt seem to even have a fb output.
last thing I have left to try is XDirectFB, though it doesnt look well maintained.
anyway, relevance to this thread? it'd be nice to have a browser to use without having to start an X session, and such a browser would compliment a CLI based setup well. No X is a lot of space saved on the suggested 50mb liveCD in the first post.
And IMHO, the web is pretty tedious when browsed in a CLI text browser, so getting a graphical one running without X would be way cool.
if I get anything useful running on it, ill post my GTK on DFB pkgbuilds. They're a hack to build though, not because of DFB, but because for some unknown reason, GTK CVS requires automake 1.7, even though the latest GTK release, builds fine with 1.9...
edit: I'll fiddle with this thing tommorow: http://directfb.org/index.php/viewcvs.c … tkWebCore/
James
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Don't get me wrong, iph - GTK/DFB looks like good stuff, but I think it deserves its own thread. The showcase example on the site is The Gimp, and nobody's going to convince me that The Gimp is text-based just because you run it without X.
But hey - it probably isn't the first time a thread's gone OT, is it?
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Don't get me wrong, iph - GTK/DFB looks like good stuff, but I think it deserves its own thread. The showcase example on the site is The Gimp, and nobody's going to convince me that The Gimp is text-based just because you run it without X.
But hey - it probably isn't the first time a thread's gone OT, is it?
This would almost be a cool setup for a 50mb arch-live cd, have to add some more stuff for that though, like tools, etc...
according to the first post, im on topic at worst, im on a tangent.
the primary reason for text based tools in such a project would be to avoid X. not to avoid gui apps alltogether. anyway. I didnt say anything about gimp
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OK - you win. No hard feelings.
*mutter* *"text-based"* *mutter* *"cli system"* *mutter* *bloody devs, think they know it all.....* *mutter* ....
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bitlbee ( http://www.bitlbee.org/ ) for instant messaging (jabber, msn, icq, ... in your irc client)
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elinks supports tabs, and javascript - sure the css may suck, but um, it's text.... wtf kind of css support do you want?
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anyone tried arachne then? i couldn't get it to work but i have in the past.
check out: http://home.arachne.cz/ i think that's the url, arachne supports ggi and svgalib.
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That game looks cool, I haven't played what it's based on, so is it fun?
you've never played Robotron?
okay get mame and download the roms for robotron and smash tv. or alternatively i know one of the various williams arcade collections for consoles have them.
also if you have a decent computer
http://www.puppygames.net/ ultratron
http://www.pompomgames.com/mutantstorm.htm
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elinks supports tabs, and javascript - sure the css may suck, but um, it's text.... wtf kind of css support do you want?
Well with links -g you could get the same colors/other features you would get in firefox.
Or with textoutput the color of the text/background could be the one defined in the stylesheet. That would be interesting
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phrakture wrote:elinks supports tabs, and javascript - sure the css may suck, but um, it's text.... wtf kind of css support do you want?
Well with links -g you could get the same colors/other features you would get in firefox.
Or with textoutput the color of the text/background could be the one defined in the stylesheet. That would be interesting
links -g, while awesome, doesn't count for a 'text based' system, but that may be my interpretation - I use elinks for quick lookups
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Well then would be mplayer forbidden too. Only allowed with libcaca
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