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#1 2006-05-24 19:33:24

alikas
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How step by step install KDE or Gnome or X11?

My computer ram is 64MB, pentium 2, 233MHZ.
And then I installing Arch linux, I install network (so is comand "links").
Then I in root type for example links http://vissarion.ru, for me write:
Error loading <...>:
Network is unreachable

With "nano" in "/etc/resolv.conf" I write:
search mshome
nameserver 192.168.0.1

But not work! That need make, that work network?
I write "pacman -S kde" (like say in http://www.kde.org/info/3.5.2.php) and for me write:
error: could not open sync database: extra
have yuo used --refresh yet?

For Windows XP and Windows 98 not need make nothing, that work network, because my computer connected to other computer, that  connected to internet.
I think, that and in Arch Linux posible somehow very simple install network, but how?


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#2 2006-05-24 20:22:22

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Re: How step by step install KDE or Gnome or X11?

Did you find this wiki page?

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#3 2006-05-24 20:22:59

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Re: How step by step install KDE or Gnome or X11?

I'm not sure I understand you correctly: did you already succesfully install Arch or not?

If you did, did you follow the install guide? It explains how to get networking working after the installation, together with a lot of other useful stuff.


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#4 2006-05-24 20:41:50

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Re: How step by step install KDE or Gnome or X11?

your router/computer is not a nameserver.. make sure u install dhcpcd and that there are some external ip in resolv.conf


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#5 2006-05-24 21:13:12

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Re: How step by step install KDE or Gnome or X11?

seems like he is trying to setup a wireless network, which I have no expierence on tongue

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#6 2006-05-25 01:24:03

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Re: How step by step install KDE or Gnome or X11?

How do wxpect to use pacman -Sy without a working net connection??


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#7 2006-05-25 07:09:48

alikas
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Re: How step by step install KDE or Gnome or X11?

Vacant, I will be try.


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#8 2006-05-25 08:00:00

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Re: How step by step install KDE or Gnome or X11?

russianpirate wrote:

your router/computer is not a nameserver.. make sure u install dhcpcd and that there are some external ip in resolv.conf

My router is a nameserver (and DHCP server). It issues 10.*.*.* private IP addresses rather than 192.168.*.* and the router itself has an IP address of 10.0.0.2. It autodetects my ISP's name servers and just relays requests. So my /etc/resolv.conf specifies "nameserver 10.0.0.2". I thought all routers did this?

I don't use dhcpd either. Each PC has a fixed IP address as my router needs to forward ports for bittorrent to specific IP addresses.

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#9 2006-05-25 08:12:07

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Re: How step by step install KDE or Gnome or X11?

vacant wrote:
russianpirate wrote:

your router/computer is not a nameserver.. make sure u install dhcpcd and that there are some external ip in resolv.conf

My router is a nameserver (and DHCP server). It issues 10.*.*.* private IP addresses rather than 192.168.*.* and the router itself has an IP address of 10.0.0.2. It autodetects my ISP's name servers and just relays requests. So my /etc/resolv.conf specifies "nameserver 10.0.0.2". I thought all routers did this?

I don't use dhcpd either. Each PC has a fixed IP address as my router needs to forward ports for bittorrent to specific IP addresses.

nope, mine forwards mine on from my ISP

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#10 2006-05-25 08:15:22

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Re: How step by step install KDE or Gnome or X11?

Take a look at the gateway-part in our /etc/rc.conf.
To enable the defaultgateway in your routing-table the routes-line has to look like this:

ROUTES=(gateway)

Normaly its

ROUTES=(!gateway)

which means that its unabled.


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#11 2006-05-25 08:55:32

vacant
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Re: How step by step install KDE or Gnome or X11?

iphitus wrote:

nope, mine forwards mine on from my ISP

What make and model is that?

I just googled "adsl router dns proxy" and the first two I looked at (vigor and netgear) offer the router's LAN IP as a DNS (DNS proxy). They're quite good makes AFAIK whereas my Origo ASR8400 (connexant-based) is cheap and cheerful but it does that too.

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#12 2006-05-25 09:02:01

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Re: How step by step install KDE or Gnome or X11?

Did X11 need install that: pacman -S X11?
And that of KDE, Gnome or X11 better will works on my slow computer?


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#13 2006-05-25 09:46:46

alikas
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Re: How step by step install KDE or Gnome or X11?

In /etc/rc.conf file networking:

#
# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
# NETWORKING
# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
#
HOSTNAME="mshome"
#
# Interfaces to start at boot-up (in this order)
# Declare each interface then list in INTERFACES
#   - prefix an entry in INTERFACES with a ! to disable it
#
# Note: to use DHCP, set your interface to be "dhcp" (eth0="dhcp")
#
lo="lo 127.0.0.1"
eth0="dhcp"
INTERFACES=(lo eth0)
#
# Routes to start at boot-up (in this order)
# Declare each route then list in ROUTES
#   - prefix an entry in ROUTES with a ! to disable it
#
#gateway="default gw 192.168.0.1"
ROUTES=(!gateway)
#
# Enable these network profiles at boot-up.  These are only useful
# if you happen to need multiple network configurations (ie, laptop users)
#   - set to 'menu' to present a menu during boot-up
#   - prefix an entry with a ! to disable it
#
# Network profiles are found in /etc/network-profiles
#
#NET_PROFILES=(main)

/etc/resolv.conf:

#
# /etc/resolv.conf
#

#search <yourdomain>
#nameserver <ip>

#search pittpa.adelphia.net
#nameserver 68.168.64.23
#nameserver 68.168.64.24
search mshome
nameserver 192.168.0.1
# End of file

Then write links http://google.com to me write:
Error loading http://google.com/:
No route to host


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#14 2006-05-25 10:35:31

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Re: How step by step install KDE or Gnome or X11?

You have:

lo="lo 10.0.1.253"
eth0="eth0 192.168.0.128 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255"
INTERFACES=(lo eth0="dhcp") 

when it should be:

lo="lo 10.0.1.253"
eth0="dhcp"
INTERFACES=(lo eth0) 

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#15 2006-05-25 10:38:26

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Re: How step by step install KDE or Gnome or X11?

Your networking section is messed up.

This is my setup for a network with a speedtouch adsl router using dhcp
(i've removed all comments to make it clearer)

HOSTNAME="julius"
lo="lo 127.0.0.1"
eth0="dhcp"
INTERFACES=(lo eth0)
gateway="default gw 10.0.0.138"
ROUTES=(!gateway)

If i was using fixed ip-addresses with the same router, it would look like this :

HOSTNAME="julius"
lo="lo 127.0.0.1"
eth0="eth0 10.0.0.20 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 10.0.0.255"
INTERFACES=(lo eth0)
gateway="default gw 10.0.0.138"
ROUTES=(gateway)

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#16 2006-05-25 11:04:35

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Re: How step by step install KDE or Gnome or X11?

alikas wrote:

Did X11 need install that: pacman -S X11?

Try

pacman -S xorg
alikas wrote:

And that of KDE, Gnome or X11 better will works on my slow computer?

I'd suggest something slimmer : XFCE (more user friendly), IceWM (not so bad), Openbox/Fluxbox/*box (fast, productive, but need to get used with it), anything else.

Any ow WM/DE needs xorg (you call it X11) to work

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#17 2006-05-25 11:07:02

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Re: How step by step install KDE or Gnome or X11?

alikas wrote:

My computer ram is 64MB, pentium 2, 233MHZ.
And then I installing Arch linux, I install network (so is comand "links").
Then I in root type for example links http://vissarion.ru, for me write:
Error loading <...>:
Network is unreachable

With "nano" in "/etc/resolv.conf" I write:
search mshome
nameserver 192.168.0.1

But not work! That need make, that work network?
I write "pacman -S kde" (like say in http://www.kde.org/info/3.5.2.php) and for me write:
error: could not open sync database: extra
have yuo used --refresh yet?

For Windows XP and Windows 98 not need make nothing, that work network, because my computer connected to other computer, that  connected to internet.
I think, that and in Arch Linux posible somehow very simple install network, but how?

Since your computer ram is 64MB, I agree with the above post, you should use a slimmer Desktop manager, don't bother with KDE or gnome they'll just hog your ram while starting up and cause problems.

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#18 2006-05-25 11:13:24

alikas
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Re: How step by step install KDE or Gnome or X11?

I restart computer and now work links.
I look in /etc/resolv.conf and see, that "search mshome.net".
Then I type "pacman -S kde" to me write:
error: could not open sync database: extra
have yuo used --refresh yet?


Goodbye!

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#19 2006-05-25 11:14:42

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Re: How step by step install KDE or Gnome or X11?

pacman -Syu

Then do

man pacman

and read it carefully.


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#20 2006-05-25 11:26:10

alikas
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Re: How step by step install KDE or Gnome or X11?

Torindan2,
How in Fluxbox goto Home directory? How browse with it hard drives?
Me need that be menu bar like in KDE or Gnome with links to programs  and possible browesing hard drives, but not in windows write, to look for example directory with command "# dir".
Love for yuo!
X11 installed with error, then I try it install.
Thanks, thanks.


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