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#901 2011-06-13 13:07:51

sn1987a
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Re: Laptops which run Arch

HP 620

Linux pc 2.6.39-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Jun 6 22:37:55 CEST 2011 x86_64 Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU T4500 @ 2.30GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Memory Controller Hub (rev 07)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 03)
00:1a.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 (rev 03)
00:1a.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #6 (rev 03)
00:1a.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 (rev 03)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 03)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 03)
00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 3 (rev 03)
00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 5 (rev 03)
00:1c.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 6 (rev 03)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 03)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 03)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 03)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1 (rev 03)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 93)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation ICH9M LPC Interface Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation ICH9M/M-E SATA AHCI Controller (rev 03)
02:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8191SEvA Wireless LAN Controller (rev 10)
85:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 02)
[STARTED][AUTO] acpid
[STARTED][AUTO] crond
[STARTED][AUTO] dbus
[STARTED][AUTO] laptop-mode
[STARTED][AUTO] networkmanager
[STARTED][    ] ntpd
[STARTED][AUTO] slim
[STARTED][AUTO] syslog-ng

Driver
_ "rtl8192se_linux_2.6.0015.0127.2010" is manually installed in order to have wifi card working => have to reinstall after each kernel update
_ i915 module autoload with KMS on in order to have graphic card working

I haven't noticed any malfunction yet !

Last edited by sn1987a (2011-06-13 13:13:25)

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#902 2011-06-15 16:15:56

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Re: Laptops which run Arch

I am planning to buy Samsung NP RV509-A09, which is cost effective. Has somebody loaded Arch 64 on this? Will this support Linux? Pl. comment


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#903 2011-06-15 22:25:28

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Re: Laptops which run Arch

The Asus EEE-PC 1015PX runs Arch with a little bit of configuration, I am working on a Wiki page to simplify the process for other users.

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#904 2011-06-16 07:41:00

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Re: Laptops which run Arch

I'm using a Lenovo ThinkPad X61 with Arch Linux since May 2011. The original purpose was testing Gnome3. This notebook runs very good with Arch so far. I like that distro big_smile.
Additionally, I'm using tp_fancontrol to reduce the fan noise on the ThinkPad.

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#905 2011-06-16 14:50:22

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Re: Laptops which run Arch

Vostro 3500 as you can see specs and Successful use of Ubuntu and now Arch on this post.
Now all is working except nvidia power on/off via Bumblebee (rendering works smile)

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#906 2011-06-20 22:53:20

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Re: Laptops which run Arch

uname -a:
Linux fackamato-t510 2.6.39-ck #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Jun 20 21:39:02 IST 2011 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 520 @ 2.40GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux

Lenovo Thinkpad T510

$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor DRAM Controller (rev 02)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset HECI Controller (rev 06)
00:16.3 Serial controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset KT Controller (rev 06)
00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82577LM Gigabit Network Connection (rev 06)
00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2 Enhanced Host Controller (rev 06)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 06)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev 06)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 2 (rev 06)
00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 4 (rev 06)
00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 5 (rev 06)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2 Enhanced Host Controller (rev 06)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev a6)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 5 Series Chipset LPC Interface Controller (rev 06)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset 6 port SATA AHCI Controller (rev 06)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset SMBus Controller (rev 06)
00:1f.6 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Thermal Subsystem (rev 06)
03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6200 (rev 35)
0d:00.0 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd MMC/SD Host Controller (rev 01)
0d:00.1 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd Memory Stick Host Controller (rev 01)
0d:00.3 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd FireWire Host Controller (rev 01)
ff:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QuickPath Architecture Generic Non-core Registers (rev 02)
ff:00.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QuickPath Architecture System Address Decoder (rev 02)
ff:02.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QPI Link 0 (rev 02)
ff:02.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QPI Physical 0 (rev 02)
ff:02.2 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Reserved (rev 02)
ff:02.3 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Reserved (rev 02)
$ lsusb
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0020 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0020 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 17ef:480f Lenovo Integrated Webcam [R5U877]

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#907 2011-06-21 07:26:06

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Re: Laptops which run Arch

$uname -a
Linux xxxxxx 2.6.38-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Mar 30 07:14:27 UTC 2011 i686 Mobile AMD Duron(tm) Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux

$lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133] (rev 80)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133 AGP]
00:07.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super South] (rev 42)
00:07.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
00:07.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 1a)
00:07.4 Bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super ACPI] (rev 40)
00:07.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
00:0a.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1410 PC card Cardbus Controller (rev 01)
00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. VT8636A [ProSavage KN133] AGP4X VGA Controller (TwisterK) (rev 01)

it's compaq presario 700. everything else works perfectly but i have not solved my sound issues yet. also something wrong in shutdown process from openbox, but im about to figure that out soon.

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#908 2011-06-21 08:26:51

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Re: Laptops which run Arch

It runs perfectly on my Toshiba satellite L30 115 smile
I just had to add

options snd-hda-intel model=asus-laptop

lscpi

00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Device 5a31 (rev 01)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI Bridge
00:12.0 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 Serial ATA Controller (rev 80)
00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB Host Controller (rev 80)
00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB Host Controller (rev 80)
00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB2 Host Controller (rev 80)
00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 SMBus Controller (rev 82)
00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 IDE Controller (rev 80)
00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB4x0 High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 PCI-ISA Bridge (rev 80)
00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 PCI-PCI Bridge (rev 80)
01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200M]
09:02.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)

uname -a

Linux panic 2.6.39-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Jun 7 05:49:02 UTC 2011 i686 Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 1.60GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux

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#909 2011-06-21 08:36:45

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Re: Laptops which run Arch

"Linux panic"? lol


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#910 2011-06-22 20:10:49

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Re: Laptops which run Arch

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#911 2011-06-26 13:50:31

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Re: Laptops which run Arch

SanskritFritz wrote:

"Linux panic"? lol

Yep, I think this hostname suits me the most. lol

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#912 2011-06-26 14:22:30

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Re: Laptops which run Arch

HP Probook 6360b

All is fine (except for external screen, but that's rather a Gnome3 thing than a HP one, imho).

Just have to install Arch with an unofficial ISO as the official one is prehistorical (2010.05, a year...)  and doesn't recognize some of its hardware.

% lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family DRAM Controller (rev 09)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series Chipset Family MEI Controller #1 (rev 04)
00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82579V Gigabit Network Connection (rev 04)
00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #2 (rev 04)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev b4)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 2 (rev b4)
00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 3 (rev b4)
00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 4 (rev b4)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #1 (rev 04)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation HM65 Express Chipset Family LPC Controller (rev 04)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series Chipset Family 6 port SATA AHCI Controller (rev 04)
23:00.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): JMicron Technology Corp. IEEE 1394 Host Controller (rev 30)
23:00.1 System peripheral: JMicron Technology Corp. SD/MMC Host Controller (rev 30)
23:00.2 SD Host controller: JMicron Technology Corp. Standard SD Host Controller (rev 30)
24:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
% uname -a
Linux Iggy 2.6.39-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Jun 6 22:37:55 CEST 2011 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2410M CPU @ 2.30GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux

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#913 2011-06-27 06:10:32

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Re: Laptops which run Arch

Lenovo 3000 C200

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo T5500 (1,66 GHz)
Screen: 15" 1024x768
WLAN: Intel Pro/Wireless 3945ABG
Video: Intel 945G Express Chipset with 128MB

This one works out of the box. Didn't have any kind of problem. It's even perfect with GNOME 3. And it also works great with Ubuntu 10.10 (haven't tested other distros).

Acer Aspire 7741G-6426

CPU: Intel Core i5 480M (2,66 GHz)
Screen: 17.3" 1600x900
WLAN: Atheros AR9287
Video: AMD Radeon HD 6550M with 1GB dedicated memory

Everything works great. Only had two problems: The open source driver for the graphics card, which made the laptop very hot and had a distorted screen (which lasted only a few seconds) just before the WM/DE loaded (but everything else was fine, no video problems whatsoever). With the Catalyst driver the temp it's normal and there's no distorted screen at boot, only that it's not great with GNOME 3 (the top panel it's weird, for example).

With XFCE it's great. As a window manager I use SLIM and I noticed something (I don't know if this happens to anyone else): Before I enabled the autologin, closing the lid of my laptop to suspend worked fine, the problem was to resume. It only showed me a black screen and I had to hard shutdown the PC, nothing I tried to fix that worked (this only happened if I suspended closing the lid, through the terminal or pressing the power button was normal). And also, I couldn't -permanently- set the brightness of the screen, no matter what, at boot it was always at 100%. Once I enabled autologin (because I like it that way, I didn't know it would 'fix' anything) both things were 'fixed'!

And second, at first I used netcfg to manage my wireless connection but sometimes it failed to connect me at boot (and I added the net profile and everything was right. With the Lenovo that's not an issue). But I'm using Wicd now and it's perfect.

Update: I just installed KDE and it works great, at least as far as I can see. But with autologin disable, I can't resume from sleep mode (or suspend, 'suspen2ram'), it's the same thing that happened with XFCE4 and SLIM. I don't know what's the problem, for now it doesn't bother me since I always enable autologin (and with this enable, I can resume without problems), but when I have time, I'll try to find out what's the problem. And with KDE I can set the brightness without problems, too. smile

Update 2: About the suspend/resume issue, it's still a problem. With autologin enabled, (for me) doesn't happen always, but still happens.
More info: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=121823


(About other distros - I don't know if I'm allowed to write about other distros, but it's just in case anyone is interested)
I also tested this one with OpenSUSE 11.2, 11.4, Ubuntu 10.10 and Ubuntu 11.04. With OpenSUSE 11.2 (KDE), as expected, there were some video issues, although I only tested this one through the LiveCD. With OpenSUSE 11.4 (GNOME), there was a black screen (or a distorted one, I really don't remember, the thing is that I had to hard reboot) and nothing else when I tried to install it or use the LiveCD, so I had to add "nomodeset" to the boot line, then edit the xorg.conf.d/50-device.conf file and uncomment the line #Driver "radeon". After that, It installed with no problems. Everything was fine, as far as I saw. I didn't keep it for too long.

With Ubuntu 10.10, everything worked out of the box, just a weird screen at boot, but once the desktop loaded, no problems. With Ubuntu 11.04 there was no problem at all.


Now, I haven't tested the Ethernet connection with either laptop, but I'm guessing if the wireless works, Ethernet should not be a problem.
Sorry for the long post, haha. And for my english! smile

Last edited by AnnS (2011-07-02 04:39:28)


Acer Aspire 7741G-6426 | Intel Core i5-480M 2.66GHz | 8GB RAM DDR3 1333MHz | 640GB HDD 5400RPM | AMD Radeon 6550M 1GB DDR3 |

Lenovo 3000 C200 | Intel Core 2 Duo T5500 1.66GHz | 2GB RAM DDR2 667MHz | 250GB HDD 5400RPM | Intel GMA 950 |

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#914 2011-06-28 04:52:32

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Re: Laptops which run Arch

Hi All,

I just bought the toshiba r835 p56x and having issue with the network. Its not recognizing the ethernet. Any suggestion would be appreciated. Thanks all in advance.

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#915 2011-06-28 04:53:56

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Re: Laptops which run Arch

Ty Loves To Eat wrote:

Hi All,

I just bought the toshiba r835 p56x and having issue with the network. Its not recognizing the ethernet. Any suggestion would be appreciated. Thanks all in advance.

This thread is for laptops which run Arch.

If you have  a specific issue, please open a new thread and detail out the problem along with all the things you have already tried and show us the errors that you got.


Forum Rules

There's no such thing as a stupid question, but there sure are a lot of inquisitive idiots !

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#916 2011-06-28 19:19:11

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Re: Laptops which run Arch

Inxsible wrote:
Ty Loves To Eat wrote:

Hi All,

I just bought the toshiba r835 p56x and having issue with the network. Its not recognizing the ethernet. Any suggestion would be appreciated. Thanks all in advance.

This thread is for laptops which run Arch.

If you have  a specific issue, please open a new thread and detail out the problem along with all the things you have already tried and show us the errors that you got.


Sorry for the inconvenience. Did not meant to post anywhere. I'm new to the forum and mistakenly just posted to this thread when I saw it through google. I have solved my issue with the toshiba r835 network issue.

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#917 2011-06-29 21:54:15

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Re: Laptops which run Arch

IBM X41 and Acer Aspiren 5920G

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#918 2011-07-01 14:43:25

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Re: Laptops which run Arch

Lenovo Thinkpad T410si


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#919 2011-07-01 18:07:50

finwin
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Re: Laptops which run Arch

Acer Aspire 7720Z

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#920 2011-07-02 10:29:10

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Re: Laptops which run Arch

Thinkpad Z60t (ibm/lenovo midtransfer model)
Medion somethingorother as a print server.

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#921 2011-07-04 12:06:55

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Re: Laptops which run Arch

thinkpad T400 and dell inspiron 6000

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#922 2011-07-04 12:13:26

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Re: Laptops which run Arch

Toshiba NB200 (Netbook)
Everything works. The only minor bug is that when it boots to KDE it notifies that my sound card not work and it fails back to default configuration which works!


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1.Desktop: 4GB RAM|Intel 2Core 2.13Ghz|GPU: NviDia GeForce 8500GT|OS: Xubuntu12.04(x64) / Sabayon9
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#923 2011-07-04 13:40:05

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Re: Laptops which run Arch

Sony VAIO SB1C5E.

everything ok with gnome 3 and gnome-shell (Just the touchpad recognized as a ImPS/2 generic wheel mouse, so only vertical scrolling is working)
discrete gpu disabled with vga_switcheroo

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#924 2011-07-04 17:27:03

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Re: Laptops which run Arch

Lenovo ThinkPad x220 tablet.

No problems, but a fair amount of work to get it to fully functional.

Touchscreen works, both capacitive (touch) and pen input. Xmonad on it.


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#925 2011-07-04 23:33:28

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Re: Laptops which run Arch

Toshiba satellite P105-S6227 and all is working well. finger print reader also works, but I have not figure out how to make it work under KDM GDM or others like Slim. I can enroll finger prints that is it.

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