Gnome breaking in the past few days?

Jeraldson · 2018-09-18 01:21:07

In the past few days I've noticed a number of issues with my gnome setup. Today when I updated to gnome 3.30 it got far worse with half of my normal actions filling journalctl with a slew of gnome-shell issues. If this was just something that happened with gnome 3.30, I'd think it was solely their fault. But since this started to happen in the days leading up, I'm somewhat more concerned.

In the days leading up the biggest issues I noticed where my alt-tab breaking and my dynamic workspaces no longer growing. I traced the former back to the "Alternate Tab" extension, which is actually from the gnome devs. By disabling it things started to work. I've still not found the root cause of the dynamic workspaces failing, so I've changed over to static workspaces for the time being. When I was on gnome 3.30 all these issues still seemed to be present, but a host of others appeared as well. Due to this I jumped ship before really documenting them.

To fix the major breakage gnome 3.30 brought I've had to change over to the archive repo for yesterday (September 16th) which I'm going to stick with for the next few days.

I'm hoping others may have had similar issues or have ideas about what the core problem could be.

Thanks for any help.

c00ter · 2018-09-18 17:54:43

If you will take a glance at the archlinux.org packages page you will notice there were many updated GNOME packages in the days preceding the release of 3.30, and again when 3.30 was released. I don't want to sound trite by saying this has become typical GNOME upgrade behavior, but it has become the typical GNOME upgrade behavior. And I think it is all on GNOME. Arch's packagers, maintainers, and developers are doing the best they can with what has been shoveled at them.

ooo · 2018-09-19 00:14:09

Welcome to forums.

In order to get support, you should clearly describe each individual issue in separate threads (unless the issues are obviously related to each other), and provide all logs, configurations and other details that could matter. If the issue started at certain update, provide pacman logs from that update.

No-one is able to help, if all you say is that you have number of issues with without any additional details.

These links could be helpful. You should at least read the first one before posting:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Co … ow_to_post
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=57855
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

If you have issue with an official shell extension from Gnome, make sure you're using the extension from the latest 'gnome-shell-extensions' package from Arch repos, and not anything installed in ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/.

It's not uncommon, that some problems emerge when large projects such as gnome do major update, but it's still better to try to figure out the cause for it and not just hope for a fix in future updates. Even if the issue results from upstream bug, and not something on your system/user configuration, it may never get fixed unless the developers are made aware of it.

You should also keep your system completely updated, in order to make sure the issues aren't fixed in latest updates, or caused by package conflicts resulting from partial upgrades. Also make sure any related AUR packages, and e.g. shell extensions you may have installed without pacman, are up-to-date.

@c00ter,
There are issues emerging every time anything as large as Gnome is updated, e.g. look at the 'Kernel & Hardware' subforum every time a new kernel is released. Gnome developers have also made some effort to avoid API breakage, and recent updates have been a lot calmer compared to earlier cycles.

If you are having problems with gnome after the update, the least you could do is report and try to solve the issue, instead of hijacking other people's threads to complain.

If you're not experiencing issues yourself, or even using Gnome desktop or otherwise have any first-hand experience, all you're doing is spreading FUD, and doing a disservice to the OP, Arch community, the gnome project and the larger OSS community.

c00ter · 2018-09-19 13:05:53

@ooo, just FYI, I am participating at a developmental level to improve GNOME. When I do not like the status quo I go about changing it. End of discussion.

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#1 2018-09-18 01:21:07

Gnome breaking in the past few days?

#2 2018-09-18 17:54:43

Re: Gnome breaking in the past few days?

#3 2018-09-19 00:14:09

Re: Gnome breaking in the past few days?

#4 2018-09-19 13:05:53

Re: Gnome breaking in the past few days?

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