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#1 2020-03-17 17:28:25

tethys
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[SOLVED] Pacman Error when trying to install lxde group

Hi Arch community,

I tried to install today the lxde group but I got a line of error for each mirror from pacman saying that it cannot find the package

lxterminal...pkg.tar.xz

Looking at lxde group details I saw that lxterminal was upgraded recently, so it should be a "pkg.tar.zst" package, but it seems that the lxde group tells pacman to look for a "pkg.tar.xz" package. How can I avoid this error?

As the group was not installed, can I delete manually from pacman.log the last entry:

... Running 'pacman -S lxde'

or should I not edit ever by hand "pacman.log"?

Last edited by tethys (2020-03-17 20:31:46)

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#2 2020-03-17 17:35:48

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Re: [SOLVED] Pacman Error when trying to install lxde group

Please post full output and errors, not truncated versions, they help no-one: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=57855


If you were getting 404 errors, you need to select an up-to-date mirror.


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#3 2020-03-17 18:16:15

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Re: [SOLVED] Pacman Error when trying to install lxde group

I am getting 404 errors for all my 7 mirrors, for example:

Error: failed retrieving file 'lxterminal-0.3.2-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz' from mirror.init7.net : The requested URL returned error: 404

However, according to this link:

https://www.archlinux.org/mirrors/status/

this mirror is up to date!

And the package "lxterminal" was last updated 2020-03-11!

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#4 2020-03-17 18:22:44

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Re: [SOLVED] Pacman Error when trying to install lxde group

Pacman#Packages_cannot_be_retrieved_on_installation
Your systems pacman database has the current version of lxterminal as 0.3.2-1 while the mirrors have 0.3.2-2
Edit:
You can combine a full system upgrade with installing new packages

pacman -Syu lxde

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#5 2020-03-17 19:36:43

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Re: [SOLVED] Pacman Error when trying to install lxde group

tethys wrote:

I am getting 404 errors for all my 7 mirrors, for example:

Error: failed retrieving file 'lxterminal-0.3.2-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz' from mirror.init7.net : The requested URL returned error: 404

However, according to this link:

https://www.archlinux.org/mirrors/status/

this mirror is up to date!

And the package "lxterminal" was last updated 2020-03-11!

Did you bother to read anything I typed? Post the full, untruncated log and stop wasting everyone's time.


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#6 2020-03-17 20:31:03

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Re: [SOLVED] Pacman Error when trying to install lxde group

loqs wrote:

Your systems pacman database has the current version of lxterminal as 0.3.2-1 while the mirrors have 0.3.2-2
Edit:
You can combine a full system upgrade with installing new packages

pacman -Syu lxde

Thank you loqs for explanation. Now I understand what happened. I made on 10th of March the last "pacman Syu" which botched my Gnome desktop. So now I wanted to test lxde and seeing that the newest package in lxde came on 11th of March, I thought I can do "pacman -S lxde" almost without doing partial upgrades. But my system's pacman database had the version of lxterminal as 0.3.2-1, therefore the error. So, if I wanted to install lxde without doing an upgrade, I should have done "pacman -Sy lxde"!

jasonwryan wrote:

Did you bother to read anything I typed? Post the full, untruncated log and stop wasting everyone's time.

Yes, actually I did read and responded to your post but as you see I do not have any more information. Thank you though for trying to help me!

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#7 2020-03-17 20:48:46

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Re: [SOLVED] Pacman Error when trying to install lxde group

tethys wrote:

So, if I wanted to install lxde without doing an upgrade, I should have done "pacman -Sy lxde"!

That would be a partial upgrade.
After doing `pacman -Syu` If pacman `pacman -S somepackage` fails you need to perform `pacman -Syu somepackage`
Edit:
`pacman -S somepackage` failing or succeeding can not produce a partial upgrade.  A matching package version is installed or it fails to install.  Either way the package versions are consistent with the last `pacman -Syu`.

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#8 2020-03-17 20:54:11

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Re: [SOLVED] Pacman Error when trying to install lxde group

tethys wrote:

So, if I wanted to install lxde without doing an upgrade, I should have done "pacman -Sy lxde"!

No, you should never -Sy anything.

If you want to lock your system to a certain date, you can use the Arch Linux Archive.

tethys wrote:
jasonwryan wrote:

Did you bother to read anything I typed? Post the full, untruncated log and stop wasting everyone's time.

Yes, actually I did read and responded to your post but as you see I do not have any more information.

I'm not sure if you're trolling at this point or not, but you did have more information, you even included some of it in the post Jason quoted.


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#9 2020-03-18 04:26:58

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Re: [SOLVED] Pacman Error when trying to install lxde group

Thank you all for all the replies.

loqs wrote:

That would be a partial upgrade.

But can it be harmful in my case? And if yes how? So I made "pacman -Syu" on 10th of March, and the only package in lxde group more recent than 10th of March is lxterminal, upgraded on 11th of March, but which has only one dependency (vte3) last upgraded on 7th of March. So basically the maintainer could have issued lxterminal on 9th of March as well had he been a bit faster.

Anyhow, meanwhile I decided to test just openbox instead of lxde.

loqs wrote:

I'm not sure if you're trolling at this point or not, but you did have more information, you even included some of it in the post Jason quoted.

I was just trying to be polite, as the forum rules say. I my experience giving to much information can also waste moderator's time. I tried to give only the information necessary to make my case. I gave all the relevant information in posts #1 and #3.

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#10 2020-03-18 04:31:43

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Re: [SOLVED] Pacman Error when trying to install lxde group

tethys wrote:
loqs wrote:

I'm not sure if you're trolling at this point or not, but you did have more information, you even included some of it in the post Jason quoted.

I was just trying to be polite, as the forum rules say. I my experience giving to much information can also waste moderator's time. I tried to give only the information necessary to make my case. I gave all the relevant information in posts #1 and #3.

No. All the relevant information would be the full command and output, as per the link I posted in #2.


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