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#1 2022-01-20 14:31:14
- nahush
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Arch with xfce4 is running slow ?
hello friends,
i have problem that when i login (lightdm,gtk-greeter), xfce4 takes time to show desktop background and runs black for sometime only the panel bar appears befor the desktop,i can use terminal in that time mostly.i tried to change the wallpaper quality , installed picom (that made it worst , removed it) also tried without lightdm , but their is no change . i am sharing top command result after starting the system with firefox and terminal are started.
do please help me.
thank you
Tasks: 232 total, 2 running, 230 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie
%Cpu(s): 0.6 us, 0.6 sy, 0.0 ni, 97.9 id, 0.8 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.0 si, 0.0 st
MiB Mem : 31924.5 total, 29070.9 free, 1613.8 used, 1239.8 buff/cache
MiB Swap: 10240.0 total, 10240.0 free, 0.0 used. 29843.2 avail Mem
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
1468 musicar+ 20 0 2545260 160820 106416 S 1.3 0.5 0:09.46 Web Content
67 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.3 0.0 0:00.08 ksoftirqd/7
231 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.3 0.0 0:00.05 jbd2/sda2-8
535 root 20 0 6841100 91288 68492 S 0.3 0.3 0:44.64 Xorg
548 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.3 0.0 0:03.32 nv_queue
1155 musicar+ 20 0 11.3g 696668 227992 S 0.3 2.1 3:17.26 GeckoMain
1383 musicar+ 20 0 2504804 139592 107744 S 0.3 0.4 0:18.60 Web Content
1745 musicar+ 20 0 2521360 154372 110148 S 0.3 0.5 0:12.78 Web Content
2148 musicar+ 20 0 2506956 145848 110312 S 0.3 0.4 0:07.32 Web Content
2506 musicar+ 20 0 544560 45728 34480 S 0.3 0.1 0:00.25 xfce4-terminal
2534 musicar+ 20 0 10984 4328 3516 R 0.3 0.0 0:00.11 top
1 root 20 0 166756 11900 9080 S 0.0 0.0 0:01.02 systemd
2 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kthreadd
3 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 rcu_gp
4 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 rcu_par_gp
6 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/0:0H-events_highpri
8 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 mm_percpu_wq
10 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 rcu_tasks_kthre
11 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 rcu_tasks_rude_
12 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 rcu_tasks_trace
13 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.21 ksoftirqd/0
14 root -2 0 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.64 rcu_preempt
15 root -2 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 rcub/0
16 root -2 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 rcuc/0
17 root rt 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 migration/0
18 root -51 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 idle_inject/0
20 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 cpuhp/0
21 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 cpuhp/1
22 root -51 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 idle_inject/1
23 root rt 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.22 migration/1
24 root -2 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 rcuc/1
25 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.11 ksoftirqd/1
27 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/1:0H-events_highpri
28 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 cpuhp/2
29 root -51 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 idle_inject/2
30 root rt 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.22 migration/2
31 root -2 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 rcuc/2
32 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.18 ksoftirqd/2
33 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.73 kworker/2:0-events
34 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/2:0H-kblockd
35 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 cpuhp/3
36 root -51 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 idle_inject/3
37 root rt 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.22 migration/3
38 root -2 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 rcuc/3
39 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.14 ksoftirqd/3
41 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/3:0H-events_highpri
42 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 cpuhp/4 Offline
#2 2022-01-20 14:42:57
- V1del
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Re: Arch with xfce4 is running slow ?
Is the compositor enabled? Should be somewhere in the settings, do you have working acceleration in the first place? What's your output of
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#3 2022-01-20 14:49:41
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Re: Arch with xfce4 is running slow ?
Is the compositor enabled? Should be somewhere in the settings, do you have working acceleration in the first place? What's your output of
glxinfo -B #Needs mesa-utils
i have remove package of picom from system.
output
[musicarch@musicArch ~]$ glxinfo -B
name of display: :0.0
display: :0 screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
Extended renderer info (GLX_MESA_query_renderer):
Vendor: Intel Open Source Technology Center (0x8086)
Device: Mesa DRI Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000 (IVB GT2) (0x166)
Version: 21.3.4
Accelerated: yes
Video memory: 1536MB
Unified memory: yes
Preferred profile: core (0x1)
Max core profile version: 4.2
Max compat profile version: 3.0
Max GLES1 profile version: 1.1
Max GLES[23] profile version: 3.0
OpenGL vendor string: Intel Open Source Technology Center
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000 (IVB GT2)
OpenGL core profile version string: 4.2 (Core Profile) Mesa 21.3.4
OpenGL core profile shading language version string: 4.20
OpenGL core profile context flags: (none)
OpenGL core profile profile mask: core profile
OpenGL version string: 3.0 Mesa 21.3.4
OpenGL shading language version string: 1.30
OpenGL context flags: (none)
OpenGL ES profile version string: OpenGL ES 3.0 Mesa 21.3.4
OpenGL ES profile shading language version string: OpenGL ES GLSL ES 3.00any help will be appreciable.
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#4 2022-01-20 14:57:03
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Re: Arch with xfce4 is running slow ?
You can use picom, but xfwm4 has a built-in compositor.
xfce4 takes time to show desktop background and runs black for sometime only the panel bar appears befor the desktop
Are the desktop icons visible at this time?
If yes:
What is the wallpaper, and where do you get it from?
Eg. if you're setting a 4k BMP wallpaper from a remote system (webdownload) that's gonna take a while.
If no:
Is "xfdesktop" running at this time?
Or does it restart a lot?
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#5 2022-01-20 15:07:27
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Re: Arch with xfce4 is running slow ?
I'm running a very similar setup to yours (XFCE, LightDM, gtk-greeter). I also use picom. A difference between yours and mine is that I have an NVIDIA card. However, I had the exact same issue that you're describing, and this fix from the wiki helped me get rid of it. It's intended to fix an issue with XFCE for a setup with NVIDIA and multiple monitors, but maybe it can work for your situation as well? Do you by any chance happen to have multiple monitors? Could be this works for intel graphics too.
Also to state the obvious here, if you're using Picom, make sure it isn't in conflict with the compositor that comes with XFCE.
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#6 2022-01-21 03:53:58
- nahush
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Re: Arch with xfce4 is running slow ?
I'm running a very similar setup to yours (XFCE, LightDM, gtk-greeter). I also use picom. A difference between yours and mine is that I have an NVIDIA card. However, I had the exact same issue that you're describing, and this fix from the wiki helped me get rid of it. It's intended to fix an issue with XFCE for a setup with NVIDIA and multiple monitors, but maybe it can work for your situation as well? Do you by any chance happen to have multiple monitors? Could be this works for intel graphics too.
Also to state the obvious here, if you're using Picom, make sure it isn't in conflict with the compositor that comes with XFCE.
i do have nvidia card on my laptop as well. i did folow the link and deleted the desktop.xml but there is still the same thing happening, any new ways please suggest..
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#7 2022-01-21 03:57:01
- nahush
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Re: Arch with xfce4 is running slow ?
You can use picom, but xfwm4 has a built-in compositor.
xfce4 takes time to show desktop background and runs black for sometime only the panel bar appears befor the desktop
Are the desktop icons visible at this time?
If yes:
What is the wallpaper, and where do you get it from?
Eg. if you're setting a 4k BMP wallpaper from a remote system (webdownload) that's gonna take a while.If no:
Is "xfdesktop" running at this time?
Or does it restart a lot?
i did try to run top as soon as black screen arrived but terminal started a few seconds before desktop screen appeared, but i notice atom was running , i dont know why? but it didnt show in xf sessions.output of ps xf
output
PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND
625 ? Ssl 0:00 xfce4-session
738 ? Sl 0:01 \_ xfwm4 --display :0.0 --sm-client-id 2cd8b3af6-f554-4489-8b55-f163bb5e915b
748 ? Sl 0:00 \_ xfsettingsd --display :0.0 --sm-client-id 2569fea43-9d00-46b5-bc77-840ff1c82892
754 ? Sl 0:00 \_ xfce4-panel --display :0.0 --sm-client-id 2f27c4009-9c35-49bd-8bf5-caeff0aeb659
790 ? Sl 0:00 | \_ /usr/lib/xfce4/panel/wrapper-2.0 /usr/lib/xfce4/panel/plugins/libwhiskermenu.so 7 16777227 whiskermenu Whisker Menu Show a menu to easily access install>
803 ? Sl 0:00 | \_ /usr/lib/xfce4/panel/wrapper-2.0 /usr/lib/xfce4/panel/plugins/libnotification-plugin.so 10 16777228 notification-plugin Notification Plugin Notification>
804 ? Sl 0:00 | \_ /usr/lib/xfce4/panel/wrapper-2.0 /usr/lib/xfce4/panel/plugins/libxfce4powermanager.so 39 16777229 power-manager-plugin Power Manager Plugin Display the >
805 ? Sl 0:00 | \_ /usr/lib/xfce4/panel/wrapper-2.0 /usr/lib/xfce4/panel/plugins/libpulseaudio-plugin.so 12 16777230 pulseaudio PulseAudio Plugin Adjust the audio volume o>
806 ? Sl 0:00 | \_ /usr/lib/xfce4/panel/wrapper-2.0 /usr/lib/xfce4/panel/plugins/libxfce4dict.so 28 16777231 xfce4-dict-plugin Dictionary A plugin to query different dicti>
807 ? Sl 0:00 | \_ /usr/lib/xfce4/panel/wrapper-2.0 /usr/lib/xfce4/panel/plugins/libmount.so 30 16777232 xfce4-mount-plugin Mount devices Shows all mountable devices and (>
808 ? Sl 0:00 | \_ /usr/lib/xfce4/panel/wrapper-2.0 /usr/lib/xfce4/panel/plugins/libweather.so 36 16777233 weather Weather Update Show current weather conditions
812 ? Sl 0:00 | \_ /usr/lib/xfce4/panel/wrapper-2.0 /usr/lib/xfce4/panel/plugins/libsystray.so 6 16777234 systray Status Tray Plugin Provides status notifier items (applic>
813 ? Sl 0:00 | \_ /usr/lib/xfce4/panel/wrapper-2.0 /usr/lib/xfce4/panel/plugins/libactions.so 9 16777235 actions Action Buttons Log out, lock or other system actions
761 ? Sl 0:00 \_ Thunar --sm-client-id 29c8d9942-5ed2-439d-85d7-6d5e2cd7c297 --daemon
766 ? Sl 0:00 \_ xfdesktop --display :0.0 --sm-client-id 2ce013a10-9f25-4c10-bfd6-8fd87f24e8dc
770 ? Sl 0:00 \_ xfce4-power-manager --restart --sm-client-id 26acb216b-bccd-4cb3-b373-9c3828b83ad5
777 ? Sl 0:00 \_ xfce4-notes
783 ? S 0:00 \_ /usr/bin/sxhkd
788 ? Sl 0:00 \_ nm-applet
789 ? Sl 0:00 \_ /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/blueman-applet
791 ? Sl 0:00 \_ /usr/lib/xfce4/notifyd/xfce4-notifyd
801 ? Sl 0:00 \_ /usr/lib/polkit-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1
1378 ? Sl 0:05 /usr/bin/xfce4-terminal
1403 pts/0 Ss 0:00 \_ bash
1468 pts/0 R+ 0:00 \_ ps xf
970 ? Sl 0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/blueman-tray
727 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent -s
616 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/lib/systemd/systemd --user
617 ? S 0:00 \_ (sd-pam)
623 ? Ssl 0:04 \_ /home/musicarch/.local/share/kite/current/kited --system-boot
629 ? Ss 0:00 \_ /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --session --address=systemd: --nofork --nopidfile --systemd-activation --syslog-only
673 ? Ssl 0:00 \_ /usr/lib/gvfsd
918 ? Sl 0:00 | \_ /usr/lib/gvfsd-trash --spawner :1.5 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/0
678 ? Sl 0:00 \_ /usr/lib/gvfsd-fuse /run/user/1000/gvfs -f
687 ? Ssl 0:00 \_ /usr/lib/at-spi-bus-launcher
692 ? S 0:00 | \_ /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --config-file=/usr/share/defaults/at-spi2/accessibility.conf --nofork --print-address 3
694 ? Sl 0:00 \_ /usr/lib/xfce4/xfconf/xfconfd
700 ? Sl 0:00 \_ /usr/lib/at-spi2-registryd --use-gnome-session
718 ? Sl 0:00 \_ /usr/bin/xfce4-screensaver
736 ? SLs 0:00 \_ /usr/bin/gpg-agent --supervised
752 ? S<sl 0:00 \_ /usr/bin/pulseaudio --daemonize=no --log-target=journal
908 ? Sl 0:00 | \_ /usr/lib/pulse/gsettings-helper
852 ? Ssl 0:00 \_ /usr/lib/gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor
900 ? Ssl 0:00 \_ /usr/lib/gvfs-mtp-volume-monitor
972 ? Ss 0:00 \_ /usr/lib/bluetooth/obexdin tryied the image size of 192kb but still the same problem
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#8 2022-01-21 07:45:54
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Re: Arch with xfce4 is running slow ?
I tried the image size of 192kb but still the same problem
Is it a local wallpaper file?
Are the desktop icons visible at this time?
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#9 2022-01-21 09:40:04
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Re: Arch with xfce4 is running slow ?
I tried the image size of 192kb but still the same problem
Is it a local wallpaper file?
yes its local , mean i did download it from linux website.
Are the desktop icons visible at this time?
No whole thing is black nothing shows.
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#10 2022-01-21 13:58:45
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Re: Arch with xfce4 is running slow ?
nahush wrote:V1del wrote:Is the compositor enabled? Should be somewhere in the settings, do you have working acceleration in the first place? What's your output of
glxinfo -B #Needs mesa-utilsi have remove package of picom from system.
output
[musicarch@musicArch ~]$ glxinfo -B name of display: :0.0 display: :0 screen: 0 direct rendering: Yes Extended renderer info (GLX_MESA_query_renderer): Vendor: Intel Open Source Technology Center (0x8086) Device: Mesa DRI Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000 (IVB GT2) (0x166) Version: 21.3.4 Accelerated: yes Video memory: 1536MB Unified memory: yes Preferred profile: core (0x1) Max core profile version: 4.2 Max compat profile version: 3.0 Max GLES1 profile version: 1.1 Max GLES[23] profile version: 3.0 OpenGL vendor string: Intel Open Source Technology Center OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000 (IVB GT2) OpenGL core profile version string: 4.2 (Core Profile) Mesa 21.3.4 OpenGL core profile shading language version string: 4.20 OpenGL core profile context flags: (none) OpenGL core profile profile mask: core profile OpenGL version string: 3.0 Mesa 21.3.4 OpenGL shading language version string: 1.30 OpenGL context flags: (none) OpenGL ES profile version string: OpenGL ES 3.0 Mesa 21.3.4 OpenGL ES profile shading language version string: OpenGL ES GLSL ES 3.00any help will be appreciable.
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#11 2022-01-21 14:21:34
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Re: Arch with xfce4 is running slow ?
Don't do that, https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Genera … mpty_posts
Check the journal on whether xfdesktop prints any errors.
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#12 2022-01-24 09:46:26
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Re: Arch with xfce4 is running slow ?
Don't do that, https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Genera … mpty_posts
Check the journal on whether xfdesktop prints any errors.
No it does not , please suggest any other way to check ? and "jounral" , means jounral entries right ?
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#13 2022-01-24 09:55:02
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Re: Arch with xfce4 is running slow ?
"journal" (I didn't typo that 
) means "sudo journalctl -b" - if you don't know what you're looking for
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#14 2022-01-24 18:07:01
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Re: Arch with xfce4 is running slow ?
"journal" (I didn't typo that
sudo journalctl -b | curl -F 'f:1=<-' ix.io
your provided command is showing any results
[musicarch@musicArch ~]$ sudo journalctl -b | curl -F 'f:1=<-' ix.io
[sudo] password for musicarch:
http://ix.io/3Npiping results
[musicarch@musicArch ~]$ ping 8.8.8.8
PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=1 ttl=117 time=6.71 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=4 ttl=117 time=6.28 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=5 ttl=117 time=7.66 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=9 ttl=117 time=6.23 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=11 ttl=117 time=6.23 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=12 ttl=117 time=6.91 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=13 ttl=117 time=6.92 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=14 ttl=117 time=6.59 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=17 ttl=117 time=7.20 ms
^C
--- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics ---
17 packets transmitted, 9 received, 47.0588% packet loss, time 16110ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 6.227/6.747/7.664/0.458 mscurrently every thing is too slow pacman is also not upgrading showing error of synchronizing all database (download library error)
[musicarch@musicArch ~]$ sudo pacman -Syu
[sudo] password for musicarch:
:: Synchronizing package databases...
core is up to date
extra.db failed to download
error: failed retrieving file 'extra.db' from mirror.cyberbits.eu : Operation too slow. Less than 1 bytes/sec transferred the last 10 seconds
error: failed retrieving file 'extra.db' from mirror.chaoticum.net : Operation too slow. Less than 1 bytes/sec transferred the last 10 seconds
error: failed retrieving file 'extra.db' from mirror.pseudoform.org : Resolving timed out after 10000 milliseconds
error: failed retrieving file 'extra.db' from phinau.de : Operation too slow. Less than 1 bytes/sec transferred the last 10 seconds
error: failed retrieving file 'extra.db' from arch.mirror.square-r00t.net : Resolving timed out after 10000 milliseconds
error: failed to synchronize all databases (download library error)Last edited by nahush (2022-01-24 18:10:59)
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#15 2022-01-24 20:58:47
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Re: Arch with xfce4 is running slow ?
your provided command is showing any results
- that's either not English or wrong ;-)
http://ix.io/3Npi is a vliad link and contains a journal w/ a "NAHUSH HOME" SSID
Jan 24 23:05:13 musicArch lightdm[569]: Could not find provider with name modesettingThere's a bogus xrandr call in the ligdm session scripts that tries to redirect the ouput of the "modesetting" provider, but you're likely using xf86-video-intel
=> You should probably remove xf86-video-intel since it's increasingly causing problems.
Jan 24 23:05:25 musicArch systemd-xdg-autostart-generator[635]: /home/musicarch/.config/autostart/udiskie.desktop:9: Unknown key name 'RunHook' in section 'Desktop Entry', ignoring.
Jan 24 23:05:25 musicArch systemd-xdg-autostart-generator[635]: Exec binary 'udiskie' does not exist: No such file or directory
Jan 24 23:05:25 musicArch systemd-xdg-autostart-generator[635]: Not generating service for XDG autostart app-udiskie@autostart.service, error parsing Exec= line: No such file or directoryWhat is this and why is it broken?
Jan 24 23:05:24 musicArch systemd-logind[510]: New session 2 of user musicarch.
…
Jan 24 23:05:26 musicArch systemd[1]: Started Session 2 of User musicarch.
…
Jan 24 23:05:32 musicArch dbus-daemon[643]: [session uid=1000 pid=643] Activating service name='org.xfce.Xfconf' requested by ':1.4' (uid=1000 pid=639 comm="xfce4-session ")
…
Jan 24 23:05:42 musicArch NetworkManager[508]: <info> [1643045742.1384] manager: NetworkManager state is now CONNECTED_GLOBALYou login, that takes 2 seconds, 6 seconds later the xfconf daemon is triggered and 10 more seconds afterwards you've a network connection.
=> How long does it usually take for the wallpaper to appear?
On a general note: the system boot takes > 10 seconds to the multi-user.target (what seems slow?) but there're no indications for network issues in that journal.
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#16 2022-01-25 05:38:40
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Re: Arch with xfce4 is running slow ?
your provided command is showing any results - that's either not English or wrong ;-)
http://ix.io/3Npi is a vliad link and contains a journal w/ a "NAHUSH HOME" SSID
sorry for wrong English.about the output, it did look a long for that to come out like 5 to 6 min.i was unable predict the output , i thought that might be a list.
Jan 24 23:05:13 musicArch lightdm[569]: Could not find provider with name modesettingThere's a bogus xrandr call in the ligdm session scripts that tries to redirect the ouput of the "modesetting" provider, but you're likely using xf86-video-intel
=> You should probably remove xf86-video-intel since it's increasingly causing problems.
i did remove the xf86-video-intel package.
Jan 24 23:05:25 musicArch systemd-xdg-autostart-generator[635]: /home/musicarch/.config/autostart/udiskie.desktop:9: Unknown key name 'RunHook' in section 'Desktop Entry', ignoring. Jan 24 23:05:25 musicArch systemd-xdg-autostart-generator[635]: Exec binary 'udiskie' does not exist: No such file or directory Jan 24 23:05:25 musicArch systemd-xdg-autostart-generator[635]: Not generating service for XDG autostart app-udiskie@autostart.service, error parsing Exec= line: No such file or directoryWhat is this and why is it broken?
this is packages for informing about the removable media https://github.com/coldfix/udiskie arch link https://archlinux.org/packages/community/any/udiskie/.
Jan 24 23:05:24 musicArch systemd-logind[510]: New session 2 of user musicarch. … Jan 24 23:05:26 musicArch systemd[1]: Started Session 2 of User musicarch. … Jan 24 23:05:32 musicArch dbus-daemon[643]: [session uid=1000 pid=643] Activating service name='org.xfce.Xfconf' requested by ':1.4' (uid=1000 pid=639 comm="xfce4-session ") … Jan 24 23:05:42 musicArch NetworkManager[508]: <info> [1643045742.1384] manager: NetworkManager state is now CONNECTED_GLOBALYou login, that takes 2 seconds, 6 seconds later the xfconf daemon is triggered and 10 more seconds afterwards you've a network connection.
=> How long does it usually take for the wallpaper to appear?On a general note: the system boot takes > 10 seconds to the multi-user.target (what seems slow?) but there're no indications for network issues in that journal.
this result of time is after removing the xf86 package .i did timed every thing from laptop turning on
turning on to login screen = 42 seconds
login to wallpaper appearance = 54 seconds
total time = 1.36 min (turning on to wallpaper appearance)
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#17 2022-01-25 08:29:05
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Re: Arch with xfce4 is running slow ?
That sounds more like a general performance issue.
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=273330
time echo "scale=5000; a(1)*4" | bc -l
time sudo journalctl -b > /dev/nullDoes the same happen w/ the lts kernel?
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#18 2022-01-25 12:33:36
- nahush
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Re: Arch with xfce4 is running slow ?
That sounds more like a general performance issue.
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=273330
i did read the provided link , but i dont know how to downgrade the bios, and first of all, is that the problem, i don know .
time echo "scale=5000; a(1)*4" | bc -l
output
time echo "scale=5000; a(1)*4" | bc -l
3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307\
81640628620899862803482534211706798214808651328230664709384460955058\
22317253594081284811174502841027019385211055596446229489549303819644\
28810975665933446128475648233786783165271201909145648566923460348610\
45432664821339360726024914127372458700660631558817488152092096282925\
40917153643678925903600113305305488204665213841469519415116094330572\
70365759591953092186117381932611793105118548074462379962749567351885\
75272489122793818301194912983367336244065664308602139494639522473719\
07021798609437027705392171762931767523846748184676694051320005681271\
45263560827785771342757789609173637178721468440901224953430146549585\
37105079227968925892354201995611212902196086403441815981362977477130\
99605187072113499999983729780499510597317328160963185950244594553469\
08302642522308253344685035261931188171010003137838752886587533208381\
42061717766914730359825349042875546873115956286388235378759375195778\
18577805321712268066130019278766111959092164201989380952572010654858\
63278865936153381827968230301952035301852968995773622599413891249721\
77528347913151557485724245415069595082953311686172785588907509838175\
46374649393192550604009277016711390098488240128583616035637076601047\
10181942955596198946767837449448255379774726847104047534646208046684\
25906949129331367702898915210475216205696602405803815019351125338243\
00355876402474964732639141992726042699227967823547816360093417216412\
19924586315030286182974555706749838505494588586926995690927210797509\
30295532116534498720275596023648066549911988183479775356636980742654\
25278625518184175746728909777727938000816470600161452491921732172147\
72350141441973568548161361157352552133475741849468438523323907394143\
33454776241686251898356948556209921922218427255025425688767179049460\
16534668049886272327917860857843838279679766814541009538837863609506\
80064225125205117392984896084128488626945604241965285022210661186306\
74427862203919494504712371378696095636437191728746776465757396241389\
08658326459958133904780275900994657640789512694683983525957098258226\
20522489407726719478268482601476990902640136394437455305068203496252\
45174939965143142980919065925093722169646151570985838741059788595977\
29754989301617539284681382686838689427741559918559252459539594310499\
72524680845987273644695848653836736222626099124608051243884390451244\
13654976278079771569143599770012961608944169486855584840635342207222\
58284886481584560285060168427394522674676788952521385225499546667278\
23986456596116354886230577456498035593634568174324112515076069479451\
09659609402522887971089314566913686722874894056010150330861792868092\
08747609178249385890097149096759852613655497818931297848216829989487\
22658804857564014270477555132379641451523746234364542858444795265867\
82105114135473573952311342716610213596953623144295248493718711014576\
54035902799344037420073105785390621983874478084784896833214457138687\
51943506430218453191048481005370614680674919278191197939952061419663\
42875444064374512371819217999839101591956181467514269123974894090718\
64942319615679452080951465502252316038819301420937621378559566389377\
87083039069792077346722182562599661501421503068038447734549202605414\
66592520149744285073251866600213243408819071048633173464965145390579\
62685610055081066587969981635747363840525714591028970641401109712062\
80439039759515677157700420337869936007230558763176359421873125147120\
53292819182618612586732157919841484882916447060957527069572209175671\
16722910981690915280173506712748583222871835209353965725121083579151\
36988209144421006751033467110314126711136990865851639831501970165151\
16851714376576183515565088490998985998238734552833163550764791853589\
32261854896321329330898570642046752590709154814165498594616371802709\
81994309924488957571282890592323326097299712084433573265489382391193\
25974636673058360414281388303203824903758985243744170291327656180937\
73444030707469211201913020330380197621101100449293215160842444859637\
66983895228684783123552658213144957685726243344189303968642624341077\
32269780280731891544110104468232527162010526522721116603966655730925\
47110557853763466820653109896526918620564769312570586356620185581007\
29360659876486117910453348850346113657686753249441668039626579787718\
55608455296541266540853061434443185867697514566140680070023787765913\
44017127494704205622305389945613140711270004078547332699390814546646\
45880797270826683063432858785698305235808933065757406795457163775254\
20211495576158140025012622859413021647155097925923099079654737612551\
76567513575178296664547791745011299614890304639947132962107340437518\
95735961458901938971311179042978285647503203198691514028708085990480\
10941214722131794764777262241425485454033215718530614228813758504306\
33217518297986622371721591607716692547487389866549494501146540628433\
66393790039769265672146385306736096571209180763832716641627488880078\
69256029022847210403172118608204190004229661711963779213375751149595\
01566049631862947265473642523081770367515906735023507283540567040386\
74351362222477158915049530984448933309634087807693259939780541934144\
73774418426312986080998886874132604720
real 0m15.607s
user 0m15.540s
sys 0m0.010stime sudo journalctl -b > /dev/null
out put
[musicarch@musicArch ~]$ time sudo journalctl -b > /dev/null
[sudo] password for musicarch:
real 0m4.802s
user 0m0.092s
sys 0m0.050sDoes the same happen w/ the lts kernel?
will update
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#19 2022-01-25 13:01:05
- seth
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Re: Arch with xfce4 is running slow ?
The long number is Pi, the interesting part is the time it takes to calculate this and this doesn't seem to be a CPU issue.
If the LTS kernel is affected as well, try to disable the (global) network connection.
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#20 2022-01-28 13:36:18
- nahush
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Re: Arch with xfce4 is running slow ?
The long number is Pi, the interesting part is the time it takes to calculate this and this doesn't seem to be a CPU issue.
If the LTS kernel is affected as well, try to disable the (global) network connection.
trying to find a way with lts kernel but is there anything we can do with available kernel.
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#21 2022-01-28 14:23:36
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Re: Arch with xfce4 is running slow ?
If the LTS kernel is affected as well, try to disable the (global) network connection.
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#22 2022-01-29 00:41:41
- Roken
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Re: Arch with xfce4 is running slow ?
I hadn't bothered reading this thread, but now that I have, I have the same issue from a cold boot. From a warm reboot, there is no slow start.
Whilst xfce4 wallpaper is starting or waiting to load, I can still use my system normally.
TBH, I've just gotten used to it, but if there's a fix, bonus.
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#23 2022-01-29 08:50:39
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Re: Arch with xfce4 is running slow ?
From a warm reboot, there is no slow start.Do you have immediate network in either case? If so, my next best guess is https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Kernel … _KMS_start (though that would imply that on "bad" boots you're also running on eg. the vesa driver…)
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#24 2022-01-29 12:46:00
- nahush
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Re: Arch with xfce4 is running slow ?
seth wrote:If the LTS kernel is affected as well, try to disable the (global) network connection.
are you talking about the network manager , cause i have only my own computer connected to network . should i try to reconnect it . or is is something different that i am not able to understand
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#25 2022-01-29 13:31:39
- seth
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Re: Arch with xfce4 is running slow ?
are you talking about the network manager
Yes. On all levelsa.
I basically wonder whether xfce4-desktop tries to do some network IO here and times out because of that.
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