Libreoffice Base Report Builder not opening / supporting arch linux

Gopal · 2024-06-08 03:22:15

The Most Compatible Office Program for Linux is LibreOffice. The LibreOffice Base Report is not working on Arch Linux
https://imgur.com/a/7gWMOjm

Last edited by Gopal (2024-06-08 12:05:31)

seth · 2024-06-08 07:03:51

file:///home/arch/Desktop/a.png
file:///home/arch/Desktop/b.png

This is not how the internet works.
Use some image pasting service like imgur and also 0x0.st allows images.
Next, inb4: don't post images of text, post the text.

Also

The LibreOffice Base Report is not working

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=57855

Lastly, is this the GTK4 backend?
=> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=296128

Gopal · 2024-06-08 12:08:33

Thank you SETH for your attention.
"Use some image pasting service like imgur and also 0x0.st allows images."
the imgur link is attached now

https://imgur.com/a/7gWMOjm

seth · 2024-06-08 12:22:08

The error complains about lackign the report builder feature.

https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/ … BUILD#L211
This has been disabled at least 6 years ago, https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/ … 44bef65ae6
There's no explanaiton (I could see) in the coomit history, but I found this gentoo bug which suggests too many dependencies being dragged in by the feature.

Lone_Wolf · 2024-06-09 16:28:07

https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/57765 gives some more info.

lobaluna · 2024-07-12 23:11:14

Hi, moderator @Lone_Wolf

I've read what Andreas Radke @AndyRTR answered to @MrChang.

Just because people don't complain doesn't mean people don't need it. I totally disagree with Andreas.
The Report Builder is needed and it's included in the Guides, the Help, etc. It's a standard, current part of LibreOffice functionalities.
It's not Andreas call to decide what to keep or what to avoid of the software. That is unfair for users, like MrChang or me (and many others, I'm sure).

Mantainers in Ubuntu found a solution to this problem, so why not find one in Arch?

I'm not planning to switch to Ubuntu just because of this issue. I love Arch for it's stability, wide-range of packages, etc. etc.

So, what is the right way to respectfully ask Andreas to pack the dependencies or do whatever it takes to include the report Builder in the LibreOffice packages? I'm not that savvy enough to software packaging and tech stuff to fully understand terms such as upstream binary based builds.

Please, let's find a solution for this issue.

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seth · 2024-07-13 05:52:55

You're the second request in 6+ years.

isn't widely used

is probably an exaggeration, virtually *nobody* uses it.

So what it would take would be to turn

an ugly tree of java dependecies

into an optional ugly tree of java dependecies (it must be possible to build the feature but allow the rest of LO to function w/o it and its

ugly tree of java dependecies

which likely will require upstream action.
Alternatively

If you rely on it feel free to use upstream binary based builds

Also since

Mantainers in Ubuntu found a solution to this problem

but not for https://packages.ubuntu.com/noble/libreoffice (500) you'll have to explain what that "solution" is, because if it's to simply suck up the

ugly tree of java dependecies

you'll probably be SOL

lobaluna · 2024-07-14 17:43:26

Just because in your room *nobody* uses it, does not mean many others in other rooms don't use it. You might come to the Spanish LibreOffice room in Telegram and check your assertion.
Why is no one else complaining... I do not know with certainty. Could it be because not everybody in this ample, rich, multi-culture world (want to) speak English? ;D

The upstream binary based builds for LibreOffice (AppImage, for example) are «a pain in the ass»: no Python scripting features, for example. Snap... I think as many others: no, thank you. Flatpak... too much of what I do not need. That's one reason for using Arch, not to deal with extra not-needed software. But we are here discussing why is not an optional package for Report Builder, not Arch.

Instead of saying no, @seth, and defending this position, please open up your mind and try to discuss the yes-position. It's unfair to close this feature in one of the best distros ever.

What do you mean by «require upstream action»? Who is that one?

I do not know the meaning of SOL. Please, write more explicitly!

As for Ubuntu, what do you mean? Watch! https://packages.ubuntu.com/noble/libre … uilder-bin

Last edited by lobaluna (2024-07-14 19:20:39)

Lone_Wolf · 2024-07-14 19:44:12

require upstream actions : the upstream here would be libreoffice developers.
They could (try to) change/simplify building reportbuilder .

You do realise none of the posters in this thread is an archlinux developer ?
Even if you convinced hundreds or thousands of forum users including report builder in libreoffice is a good idea, the archlinux devs still can say no.
The decision is theirs, not forum users.

I can outline a way that may help to convine arch devs adding report builder is doable .

Setup a system you have access to perform clean chroot building
Download the files used by archlinux to build libreoffice-still (or -fresh) using pkgctl or git clone .

Ensure that package builds as-is .

Once that has been verified, edit the PKGBUILD and replace --disable-report-builder with --enable-report-builder .
build again and solve issues like missing dependencies.

You will likely need help, so create a new thread in "Creating & Modifying Packages" to get that help.

In case that is succesfull you can try convincing archlinux devs through a new request to add report builder support to libreoffice.

seth · 2024-07-14 20:20:34

I do not know the meaning of SOL. Please, write more explicitly!

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define. … =s%20o%20l

Could it be because not everybody in this ample, rich, multi-culture world (want to) speak English? ;D

No.
https://deepl.com

As for Ubuntu, what do you mean?

packages.ubuntu.com was down when ("500" is a http status code and means "server error") I wanted to look - happens more often…
Looks like the https://packages.ubuntu.com/noble/libre … uilder-bin is an optional dependency for https://packages.ubuntu.com/noble/libreoffice-base what means it *might* be possible to build a split package (which will likely be the bar the package maintainer is gonna set, it's generally doable to build reportbuilder - it was there and only removed because of the cruft)

Generally follow Lone_Wolfs suggestion, but write a split package PKGBUILD and suggest the package maintainer uses that.
Reference the file lists and dependencies in the debian/ubuntu packages to support your approach and of course the core package w/o reportbuilder has to be tested for remaining functionality.

Fwwi and as Lone_Wolf pointed out: I'm not discussing any position, I'm conveying to you the status quo.
I'm not even using any wysiwymg office suite…

lobaluna · 2024-07-14 23:11:22

Thanks for answering, @Lone_Wolf

As you can read in one of my first posts, I was asking some of you (moderators, I believe) to point me in the right direction.

Alright, I'll follow your suggestions, and ask for help whenever it's needed.

Just for you to know: I tried to "convince" @seth because he presented some arguments against, just because of that. Sometimes the status quo is not the right thing.

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@seth, please do not use acronyms; not everybody is updated with software lingo (not me, obviously); and to your surprise, not everybody knows how to express a concern in Linux distros (yes, there are many who don't, and many more who stick to the status quo).

seth · 2024-07-15 06:31:25

please do not use acronyms; not everybody is updated with software lingo (not me, obviously)

Acronyms aren't inherently software lingo, arguing that you don't understand software lingo on a DIY linux distro is maybe not the strongest move and since I probably can guess your age, you also grew up with google. You're using archlinux so buckle up and get ready to look up and learn stuff you don't know yet. You can also always ask.
Telling others to passiveaggressivelyplease pander to your exact condition while complaining about being a victing to the status quo is probably the most millennial any millennial could millennial.

Lone_Wolf · 2024-07-15 11:29:55

Moderator Note :

lobaluna wrote:

As you can read in one of my first posts, I was asking some of you (moderators, I believe) to point me in the right direction.

I didn't interpret that post as a request to moderators, but as a general request for assistance .
Incase you ever want/need to attract the attention of Forum Admins & Moderators : use the report button.

I feel this thread has run its course now and am closing it.

@Gopal :
as opening poster you can request re-opening this thread .
If you want that submit a report in which you clarify why re-opening it is needed.

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