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#1 2007-02-10 21:52:35

dids22
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xorg\gnome install problem

hi
i just finish install xorg and gnome

pacman -S xorg
pacman -S hwd
hwd -x
hwd -u

copy /etc/X11/xorg.conf.hwd  to  /etc/X11/xorg.conf


pacman -S gnome
pacman -S gnome-extra

now i'm tring to load gnome by

gnome-session

but i get eror

(gnome-session: 3281) gtk warning **: locale not supported by c library.
using the fallback "c" locale.


(gnome-session: 3281) gtk warning **: cannot open display;

the pro' is  gnome or xorg?
there is any way to verify the xorg work correctly?
u have any idia how to solve  this?

ty

Last edited by dids22 (2007-02-10 21:53:07)

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#2 2007-02-10 22:12:00

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Re: xorg\gnome install problem

In your ~/.xinitrc add:
exec /opt/gnome/bin/gnome-session
and comment out the other exec lines. Then run startx to start gnome.

I think you also need to uncomment the locales that you use in /etc/locale.gen then run locale-gen.

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#3 2007-02-10 22:33:55

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Re: xorg\gnome install problem

he telling me now that the driver not found

Last edited by dids22 (2007-02-10 22:45:56)

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#4 2007-02-10 23:24:31

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Re: xorg\gnome install problem

what graphics card do you use?, sounds like your missing that module


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#5 2007-02-10 23:25:11

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Re: xorg\gnome install problem

You probably didn't intall the needed xorg video driver.  What was the exact error message or what video card do you have?

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#6 2007-02-11 08:06:22

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Re: xorg\gnome install problem

what aexactly are the errors ? as snowman suggested it prolly has something to do with the gfx driver not installed...(what gfx card(or onboard chipset)) do you use?
maybe pastebin ( http://pastebin.archlinux.org ) your /etc/xorg.conf

and also, there is a local issue.

edit /etc/locale.gen and uncomment your locale | mine;
en_GB.UTF-8    UTF-8
en_GB    ISO-8859-1

after that exec > locale-gen


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#7 2007-02-11 08:52:06

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Re: xorg\gnome install problem

i install nvidia driver and now  gnome work.

1)in arch, there is not graphic package manager?
2)i install firefox , but not the new.

i downloaded the new (firefox-2.0.0.1.tar.gz)  for my hd

how i install it?

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#8 2007-02-11 19:43:43

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Re: xorg\gnome install problem

Glad you got gnome working. In answer to the other questions:

1.) As standard arch does not come with a graphical frontend for pacman, but one of the users here has written a frontend in java. Search for "Jacman" on the forums and you will find it. I Haven't used it but it looks good.

2.) The current version of firefox (2.0.0.1) is available from the current repository. You might just have to refresh pacman (pacman -Syu). To install the tarball you downloaded, the best way would be to make a PKGBUILD for it; for how to do this you would have to read the wiki. Since the version you are after is already in the repository, however, that is probably your best bet.

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#9 2007-02-11 21:58:18

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Re: xorg\gnome install problem

ok

there is any way to verify that xorg and gnome work properly?

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#10 2007-02-12 22:12:01

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Re: xorg\gnome install problem

i run a game and he give me an error

"GLW_StartOpenGL() - could not load OpenGL subsystem"
sad

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#11 2007-02-13 00:35:46

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Re: xorg\gnome install problem

i think you may need ( in /etc/xorg.conf )

Section "Module"
...
    Load           "glx"
...
    Load  "GLCore"


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#12 2007-02-13 21:54:17

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Re: xorg\gnome install problem

this is  link for my monitor  -> http://www.samsung.com/Products/Monitor … ifications

as u can see, it's supporting 1024x768 / 85 Hz, so why the highest refresh rate is 54?

this is the xorg.conf file

# File generated by xorgconfig.

#
# Copyright 2004 The X.Org Foundation
#
# Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a
# copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"),
# to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation
# the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense,
# and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the
# Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:
# 
# The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in
# all copies or substantial portions of the Software.
# 
# THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR
# IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY,
# FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT.  IN NO EVENT SHALL
# The X.Org Foundation BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY,
# WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF
# OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE
# SOFTWARE.
# 
# Except as contained in this notice, the name of The X.Org Foundation shall
# not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use or other
# dealings in this Software without prior written authorization from
# The X.Org Foundation.
#

# **********************************************************************
# Refer to the xorg.conf(5) man page for details about the format of 
# this file.
# **********************************************************************

# **********************************************************************
# Module section -- this  section  is used to specify
# which dynamically loadable modules to load.
# **********************************************************************
#
Section "Module"

# This loads the DBE extension module.

    Load        "dbe"      # Double buffer extension

# This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables
# initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module.
    SubSection  "extmod"
      Option    "omit xfree86-dga"   # don't initialise the DGA extension
    EndSubSection

# This loads the font modules
#    Load        "type1"
#    Load        "speedo"
    Load        "freetype"
#    Load        "xtt"

# This loads the GLX module
#    Load       "glx"
# This loads the DRI module
#    Load       "dri"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Files section.  This allows default font and rgb paths to be set
# **********************************************************************

Section "Files"

# The location of the RGB database.  Note, this is the name of the
# file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db").  There is normally
# no need to change the default.

#    RgbPath    "/usr/share/X11/rgb"

# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together),
# as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath
# command (or a combination of both methods)
# 
# 

    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi"
    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi"
    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/TTF"
    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
#    FontPath   "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/local/"
#    FontPath   "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
#    FontPath   "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
#    FontPath   "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
#    FontPath   "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
#    FontPath   "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
#    FontPath   "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/"
#    FontPath   "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/freefont/"
#    FontPath   "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
#    FontPath   "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"

# The module search path.  The default path is shown here.

#    ModulePath "/usr/lib/modules"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Server flags section.
# **********************************************************************

Section "ServerFlags"

# Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is 
# received.  This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may
# provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging

#    Option "NoTrapSignals"

# Uncomment this to disable the <Ctrl><Alt><Fn> VT switch sequence
# (where n is 1 through 12).  This allows clients to receive these key
# events.

#    Option "DontVTSwitch"

# Uncomment this to disable the <Ctrl><Alt><BS> server abort sequence
# This allows clients to receive this key event.

#    Option "DontZap"

# Uncomment this to disable the <Ctrl><Alt><KP_+>/<KP_-> mode switching
# sequences.  This allows clients to receive these key events.

#    Option "Dont Zoom"

# Uncomment this to disable tuning with the xvidtune client. With
# it the client can still run and fetch card and monitor attributes,
# but it will not be allowed to change them. If it tries it will
# receive a protocol error.

#    Option "DisableVidModeExtension"

# Uncomment this to enable the use of a non-local xvidtune client. 

#    Option "AllowNonLocalXvidtune"

# Uncomment this to disable dynamically modifying the input device
# (mouse and keyboard) settings. 

#    Option "DisableModInDev"

# Uncomment this to enable the use of a non-local client to
# change the keyboard or mouse settings (currently only xset).

#    Option "AllowNonLocalModInDev"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Input devices
# **********************************************************************

# **********************************************************************
# Core keyboard's InputDevice section
# **********************************************************************

Section "InputDevice"

    Identifier    "Keyboard1"
    Driver    "kbd"

# For most OSs the protocol can be omitted (it defaults to "Standard").
# When using XQUEUE (only for SVR3 and SVR4, but not Solaris),
# uncomment the following line.

#    Option     "Protocol"      "Xqueue"

    Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"

# Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1))
#    Option    "Xleds"      "1 2 3"

#    Option "LeftAlt"     "Meta"
#    Option "RightAlt"    "ModeShift"

# To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the
# lines below (which are the defaults).  For example, for a non-U.S.
# keyboard, you will probably want to use:
#    Option "XkbModel"    "pc105"
# If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use:
#    Option "XkbModel"    "microsoft"
#
# Then to change the language, change the Layout setting.
# For example, a german layout can be obtained with:
#    Option "XkbLayout"   "de"
# or:
#    Option "XkbLayout"   "de"
#    Option "XkbVariant"  "nodeadkeys"
#
# If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and
# control keys, use:
#    Option "XkbOptions"  "ctrl:swapcaps"

# These are the default XKB settings for Xorg
#    Option "XkbRules"    "xorg"
#    Option "XkbModel"    "pc105"
#    Option "XkbLayout"   "us"
#    Option "XkbVariant"  ""
#    Option "XkbOptions"  ""

#    Option "XkbDisable"

    Option "XkbRules"    "xorg"
    Option "XkbModel"    "a4techKB21"
    Option "XkbLayout"    "us"
    Option "XkbVariant"    "us"

EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Core Pointer's InputDevice section
# **********************************************************************

Section "InputDevice"

# Identifier and driver

    Identifier    "Mouse1"
    Driver    "mouse"
    Option "Protocol"    "Auto"    # Auto detect
    Option "Device"      "/dev/input/mice"

# When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment
# the following line.

#    Option "Protocol"    "Xqueue"

# Mouse-speed setting for PS/2 mouse.

#    Option "Resolution"    "256"

# Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice. In
# almost every case these lines should be omitted.

#    Option "BaudRate"    "9600"
#    Option "SampleRate"    "150"

# Mouse wheel mapping.  Default is to map vertical wheel to buttons 4 & 5,
# horizontal wheel to buttons 6 & 7.   Change if your mouse has more than
# 3 buttons and you need to map the wheel to different button ids to avoid
# conflicts.

    Option "ZAxisMapping"   "4 5 6 7"

# Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button mice
# Emulate3Timeout is the timeout in milliseconds (default is 50ms)

#    Option "Emulate3Buttons"
#    Option "Emulate3Timeout"    "50"

# ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice

#    Option "ChordMiddle"

EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Other input device sections 
# this is optional and is required only if you
# are using extended input devices.  This is for example only.  Refer
# to the xorg.conf man page for a description of the options.
# **********************************************************************
#
# Section "InputDevice" 
#    Identifier  "Mouse2"
#    Driver      "mouse"
#    Option      "Protocol"      "MouseMan"
#    Option      "Device"        "/dev/mouse2"
# EndSection
#
# Section "InputDevice"
#    Identifier "spaceball"
#    Driver     "magellan"
#    Option     "Device"        "/dev/cua0"
# EndSection
#
# Section "InputDevice"
#    Identifier "spaceball2"
#    Driver     "spaceorb"
#    Option     "Device"        "/dev/cua0"
# EndSection
#
# Section "InputDevice"
#    Identifier "touchscreen0"
#    Driver     "microtouch"
#    Option     "Device"        "/dev/ttyS0"
#    Option     "MinX"          "1412"
#    Option     "MaxX"          "15184"
#    Option     "MinY"          "15372"
#    Option     "MaxY"          "1230"
#    Option     "ScreenNumber"  "0"
#    Option     "ReportingMode" "Scaled"
#    Option     "ButtonNumber"  "1"
#    Option     "SendCoreEvents"
# EndSection
#
# Section "InputDevice"
#    Identifier "touchscreen1"
#    Driver     "elo2300"
#    Option     "Device"        "/dev/ttyS0"
#    Option     "MinX"          "231"
#    Option     "MaxX"          "3868"
#    Option     "MinY"          "3858"
#    Option     "MaxY"          "272"
#    Option     "ScreenNumber"  "0"
#    Option     "ReportingMode" "Scaled"
#    Option     "ButtonThreshold"       "17"
#    Option     "ButtonNumber"  "1"
#    Option     "SendCoreEvents"
# EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Monitor section
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of monitor sections may be present

Section "Monitor"

    Identifier  "SyncMaster 793df"

    HorizSync   30 - 70

    VertRefresh 50-160

EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Graphics device section
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of graphics device sections may be present

# Standard VGA Device:

Section "Device"
    Identifier    "Standard VGA"
    VendorName    "Unknown"
    BoardName    "Unknown"

# The chipset line is optional in most cases.  It can be used to override
# the driver's chipset detection, and should not normally be specified.

#    Chipset    "generic"

# The Driver line must be present.  When using run-time loadable driver
# modules, this line instructs the server to load the specified driver
# module.  Even when not using loadable driver modules, this line
# indicates which driver should interpret the information in this section.

    Driver     "vga"
# The BusID line is used to specify which of possibly multiple devices
# this section is intended for.  When this line isn't present, a device
# section can only match up with the primary video device.  For PCI
# devices a line like the following could be used.  This line should not
# normally be included unless there is more than one video device
# intalled.

#    BusID      "PCI:0:10:0"

#    VideoRam    256

#    Clocks    25.2 28.3

EndSection

# Device configured by xorgconfig:

Section "Device"
    Identifier  "6600gt"
    Driver      "nvidia"
    # unsupported card
    #VideoRam    128000
    # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate
EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Screen sections
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of screen sections may be present.  Each describes
# the configuration of a single screen.  A single specific screen section
# may be specified from the X server command line with the "-screen"
# option.
Section "Screen"
    Identifier  "Screen 1"
    Device      "6600gt"
    Monitor     "SyncMaster 793df"
    DefaultDepth 24

    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       8
        Modes        "1024x768" 
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       16
        Modes        "1024x768"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       24
       #Modes       "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        Modes        "1024x768"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# ServerLayout sections.
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of ServerLayout sections may be present.  Each describes
# the way multiple screens are organised.  A specific ServerLayout
# section may be specified from the X server command line with the
# "-layout" option.  In the absence of this, the first section is used.
# When now ServerLayout section is present, the first Screen section
# is used alone.

Section "ServerLayout"

# The Identifier line must be present
    Identifier  "Simple Layout"

# Each Screen line specifies a Screen section name, and optionally
# the relative position of other screens.  The four names after
# primary screen name are the screens to the top, bottom, left and right
# of the primary screen.  In this example, screen 2 is located to the
# right of screen 1.

    Screen "Screen 1"

# Each InputDevice line specifies an InputDevice section name and
# optionally some options to specify the way the device is to be
# used.  Those options include "CorePointer", "CoreKeyboard" and
# "SendCoreEvents".

    InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
    InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"

EndSection

# Section "DRI"
#    Mode 0666
# EndSection

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#13 2007-02-14 13:22:09

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Re: xorg\gnome install problem

wel uless you can see a visible difference in the refresh rate,
i'd sya it's being reported incorrectly... as mine do

my monitor supports 60hz@1280x1024;
reported as 50...


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#14 2007-02-14 15:02:08

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Re: xorg\gnome install problem

simply an xorg bug wink

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#15 2007-02-14 20:25:31

dids22
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Re: xorg\gnome install problem

ty
i want to make 1024x768 the only option
what i need to do?

Last edited by dids22 (2007-02-14 20:25:53)

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#16 2007-02-15 08:19:13

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Re: xorg\gnome install problem

remove other modes from ur xorg.conf ....
i.e ..

SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       24
        Modes      "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    EndSubSection

would become
SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       24
        Modes      "1024x768"
    EndSubSection


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#17 2007-02-15 16:08:24

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Re: xorg\gnome install problem

^^
as u can see my xorg file and see that i did that


Subsection "Display"
        Depth       8
        Modes        "1024x768"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       16
        Modes        "1024x768"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       24
       #Modes       "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        Modes        "1024x768"
        ViewPort    0 0

but it's don't work:/

Last edited by dids22 (2007-02-15 16:08:46)

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#18 2007-02-15 17:26:54

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Re: xorg\gnome install problem

well, i dunno then ... why does it matter any way ?


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#19 2007-02-15 17:48:22

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Re: xorg\gnome install problem

Are you sure you're editing the same config that your X-server uses?

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#20 2007-02-15 19:19:50

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Re: xorg\gnome install problem

u can see my xorg above

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#21 2007-02-15 21:19:24

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Re: xorg\gnome install problem

Yeah, I can see a config, but are you sure that your X-server really is using that one that you have posted? Because with these settings set your x-server should only know this one resolution and I can't think of any other reason for your x-server to ignore your settings than your x-server not using that configuration file.
Either way you might want to check the log-file as well (to see what config file your x-server is actually using and to see if you can find any other hints to why "it's not working").

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#22 2007-02-16 14:07:52

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Re: xorg\gnome install problem

yeah he using this config
maybe it's because nvidia driver?

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