Some apps are taking way to long, about 7min

gxez · 2025-02-22 07:56:08

Okay so as the title suggests some apps are really taking forever to load, i have read some posts and they mention removing the ``` xdg-desktop-portal-gnome``` i did remove that but no luck...
I've been on arch for a VERY long time and yet for the life of me i can not seem to figure out wtf is causing this issue... i just got this new laptop with specs better than my old one.. yet the old one opened apps way faster...
I've even noticed proton behaving a little off but i dont game a lot so i dont care much about it...

specs for context -
kernel - Linux 6.13.3-zen1-1-zen (i also use lts and the default one)
wm - Hyprland
Cpu- 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-12450H (8) @ 4.40 GHz GHz
Gpu- NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 6GB Laptop GPU @ GHz
Ram - 16gb ddr5 at 5200MT/s
idr the ssd but its faster fs

i have tried different kernels, even reinstalled arch again.. yet the issue does not seem to be going away....i really dont think this could be a hardware issue..
a few examples are - conda taking about 2s to load.. earlier it used to take a few ms
vscode taking about 5-7min to load.. but it loads normally if i run it with the disable gpu flag ( i tried only running my gpu, only running the ipgu both availed the same results)
made a set of widgets with fabric.. even those take a solid 10-20s to open.. the same code on my friend's machine opens in ms
Lemme know what logs to post!

Last edited by gxez (2025-02-22 07:59:02)

seth · 2025-02-22 09:09:15

vscode taking about 5-7min to load.. but it loads normally if i run it with the disable gpu flag

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 7#p2226817

"2s" isn't really any timeout, I'd suspect disk I/O to be the cause, so please provide details about the setup beyong "it's better trust me bro"
Also, since "conda" isn't in the repos, maybe you're using an AUR build on one and a flatpack on the other system.
Also what do you mean by "open", conda is a cli tool?

gxez · 2025-02-22 09:15:05

seth wrote:

vscode taking about 5-7min to load.. but it loads normally if i run it with the disable gpu flag
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 7#p2226817
"2s" isn't really any timeout, I'd suspect disk I/O to be the cause, so please provide details about the setup beyong "it's better trust me bro"
Also, since "conda" isn't in the repos, maybe you're using an AUR build on one and a flatpack on the other system.
Also what do you mean by "open", conda is a cli tool?

i mean it is a timeout if it used to take ms.. and no both were on the aur.. i did suspect disk issues too but i did not find anything.. as i said mentioned earlier, whatever details/logs you want, just lemme know, i'll post them asap.. by open i mean the time to activate it

below is the output for `inxi -Fxz`

System:
  Kernel: 6.13.3-zen1-1-zen arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 14.2.1
  Desktop: Hyprland v: 0.47.0-92-g2cfa5d24 Distro: Arch Linux
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: Infinix product: GL613 v: 1.04
    serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Infinix model: GL613 v: 4 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: Infinix
    v: 3.00 date: 04/01/2024
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 54.9 Wh (79.6%) condition: 69.0/70.3 Wh (98.1%)
    volts: 12.4 min: 11.6 model: BYD N16PA1 status: not charging
CPU:
  Info: 8-core (4-mt/4-st) model: 12th Gen Intel Core i5-12450H bits: 64
    type: MST AMCP arch: Alder Lake rev: 3 cache: L1: 704 KiB L2: 7 MiB
    L3: 12 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 438 min/max: 400/4400:3300 cores: 1: 438 2: 438 3: 438
    4: 438 5: 438 6: 438 7: 438 8: 438 9: 438 10: 438 11: 438 12: 438
    bogomips: 59904
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Alder Lake-P GT1 [UHD Graphics] vendor: Byd Precision
    Manufacture driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Xe bus-ID: 00:02.0
  Device-2: NVIDIA GA107BM / GN20-P0-R-K2 [GeForce RTX 3050 6GB Laptop GPU]
    vendor: Byd Precision Manufacture driver: nvidia v: 570.86.16 arch: Ampere
    bus-ID: 01:00.0
  Device-3: Sonix Integrated Webcam_FHD driver: uvcvideo type: USB
    bus-ID: 3-2:2
  Display: wayland server: X.Org v: 24.1.5 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.5
    compositor: Hyprland v: 0.47.0-92-g2cfa5d24 driver: X:
    loaded: modesetting,nvidia dri: iris gpu: i915 resolution: 1920x1200~120Hz
  API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: iris,nvidia platforms:
    active: gbm,wayland,x11,surfaceless,device inactive: N/A
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6.0 compat-v: 4.6 vendor: intel mesa v: 24.3.4-arch1.1
    glx-v: 1.4 direct-render: yes renderer: Mesa Intel Graphics (ADL GT2)
  API: Vulkan v: 1.4.303 drivers: N/A surfaces: xcb,xlib,wayland devices: 2
  Info: Tools: api: clinfo, eglinfo, glxinfo, vulkaninfo
    de: kscreen-console,kscreen-doctor gpu: corectrl, gputop, intel_gpu_top,
    lsgpu, nvidia-settings, nvidia-smi wl: swaymsg, wayland-info, wlr-randr
    x11: xdriinfo, xdpyinfo, xprop, xrandr
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Alder Lake PCH-P High Definition Audio vendor: Byd
    Precision Manufacture driver: sof-audio-pci-intel-tgl bus-ID: 00:1f.3
  Device-2: NVIDIA GA107 High Definition Audio vendor: Byd Precision
    Manufacture driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 01:00.1
  API: ALSA v: k6.13.3-zen1-1-zen status: kernel-api
  Server-1: sndiod v: N/A status: off
  Server-2: JACK v: 1.9.22 status: off
  Server-3: PipeWire v: 1.2.7 status: active
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Alder Lake-P PCH CNVi WiFi driver: iwlwifi v: kernel
    bus-ID: 00:14.3
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Intel AX201 Bluetooth driver: btusb v: 0.8 type: USB
    bus-ID: 3-10:6
  Report: btmgmt ID: hci0 rfk-id: 0 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 5.2
    lmp-v: 11
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 476.94 GiB used: 144.31 GiB (30.3%)
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Foresee model: XP2100F512G size: 476.94 GiB
    temp: 36.9 C
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 361 GiB used: 144.28 GiB (40.0%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p6
  ID-2: /boot/efi size: 96 MiB used: 31.3 MiB (32.6%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1
Swap:
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 16 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) file: /swapfile
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 51.0 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (rpm): N/A
Info:
  Memory: total: 16 GiB note: est. available: 15.27 GiB used: 6.07 GiB (39.8%)
  Processes: 334 Uptime: 2h 44m Init: systemd
  Packages: 1935 Compilers: clang: 19.1.7 gcc: 14.2.1 Shell: fish v: 3.7.1
    inxi: 3.3.37

Last edited by gxez (2025-02-22 15:40:13)

seth · 2025-02-22 15:35:06

Please use [code][/code] tags. Edit your post in this regard.

Common timeouts range between 10 and 120 seconds - it refers to "something tries hard and then gives up".
You're just experiencing some slowdown, but that's unlikely a deliberate timeout.

* Have you addressed the multi-gpu/electron situation?
* Wrt "nvme0n1p6", is there a parallel windows installation?
* You've not addressed what "opening conda" shall refer to.
If you want to know where something is losing time, strace is a goot first stop.

strace -o /tmp/conda.strace -f -tt conda …

gxez · 2025-02-22 15:45:24

seth wrote:

Please use [code][/code] tags. Edit your post in this regard.
Common timeouts range between 10 and 120 seconds - it refers to "something tries hard and then gives up".
You're just experiencing some slowdown, but that's unlikely a deliberate timeout.
* Have you addressed the multi-gpu/electron situation?
* Wrt "nvme0n1p6", is there a parallel windows installation?
* You've not addressed what "opening conda" shall refer to.
If you want to know where something is losing time, strace is a goot first stop.
strace -o /tmp/conda.strace -f -tt conda …

okay but the conda thing is not the only issue it was just an example... i did say what i meant by opening conda... yes there is a windows installation i never boot into it tho... mainly use that part for storing gguf files..
and wdym by addressing the multi-gpu/electron situation? we talking vscode here? if so then are you asking for logs or what? kindly be a little clearer
and yes slowdown/timeout whatever it maybe called its annoying asf

thanks for the strace thing tho i'll go check it out when i can

Last edited by gxez (2025-02-22 15:47:57)

seth · 2025-02-22 15:55:06

i did say what i meant by opening conda.

Where?

s there is a windows installation

3rd link below. Mandatory.
Disable it (it's NOT the BIOS setting!) and reboot windows and linux twice for voodo reasons.

wdym by addressing the multi-gpu/electron situation

seth wrote:

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 7#p2226817

kindly be a little clearer

Seriously…

gxez · 2025-02-22 16:00:48

seth wrote:

i did say what i meant by opening conda.
Where?

by open i mean the time to activate it

Aight, i'll disable windows and see what happens..

and i already have the i915 in my modules....
also can we be a little more chill here? you seem kinda rude.. i dont post on arch forums a lot .... so im not sure if this is a normal tone or not but a little more cheerful tone if possible would be great!

i've been using arch for a while now, not an idiot(based off of your tone it seems like ur implying it)..

Last edited by gxez (2025-02-22 16:11:41)

seth · 2025-02-22 20:57:12

by open i mean the time to activate it

And what does that mean?

I'm maybe blunt, but this works better if your read and understand https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=57855
You're posts boil down to "some things are slow, it don't know… what logs do you need to tell my what my diffuse problems are"

Some apps are taking way to long, about 7min
…
a few examples are - conda taking about 2s to load.. earlier it used to take a few ms
vscode taking about 5-7min to load.. but it loads normally if i run it with the disable gpu flag
…
made a set of widgets with fabric.. even those take a solid 10-20s to open
…
on my friend's machine opens in ms
…
…
okay but the conda thing is not the only issue it was just an example...

Obviously 7 minutes and 2s are not in the same ballpark.
Also vscode is by your account GPU sensitive, conda rather not?
And I assume "fabric" is minecraft, so that points towards the GPU again?
vulkan-related?

Post some hard data.
* A list of applications affected and one of those that are not - along the scale of the delays you're experiencing.
* Benchmark your drive, https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Benchmarking#dd
* a strace for an affected client (ideally a trivial one w/ extreme delay to highlight the problem)
* post your complete system journal for a general oversight:

sudo journalctl -b | curl -F 'file=@-' 0x0.st

* because of the GPU situation: "vulkaninfo --summary; glxinfo -B"

Next: does this happen in other environments (for conda, the console) or is it limited to hyprland?
Is the system under general undue load (ie. are things slow because some rogue process is eating all your cpu time)?

gxez · 2025-02-22 21:05:12

Not to be rude here but..I'll just figure it out on my own, thanks for trying to help me tho and no for the record, by fabric i meant the gtk wrapper kinda lib for widgets and stuff
Once again thanks for taking out the time but I'd best be figuring it out myself once my finals are over..
My posts were not that.. just I was frustrated and didn't have the time to dig into everything myself with my finals going on..

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