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#1 2025-06-03 07:47:43

gtarch
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Posts: 12

[Solved] element-desktop doesn't start

I just upgraded and now element-desktop doesn't start.
It throws an error "Error: safeStorage is not available"
I have gnome-keyring-daemon running and the safeStorage backend is configured to gnome_libsecret.
I'm running a wayland xfce session with labwc compositor and element-desktop 1.11.101-1

Last edited by gtarch (2025-06-04 09:06:33)

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#2 2025-06-03 14:19:20

seth
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Registered: 2012-09-03
Posts: 66,053

Re: [Solved] element-desktop doesn't start

It throws an error "Error: safeStorage is not available"

Going by https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/element … more/71972 it'll likely print more.
Please post the complete output, not isolated lines, https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=57855

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#3 2025-06-03 18:54:46

gtarch
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Re: [Solved] element-desktop doesn't start

$ element-desktop 
/home/user/.config/Element exists: yes
/home/user/.config/Riot exists: no
[42461:0603/214655.116842:ERROR:dbus/object_proxy.cc:590] Failed to call method: org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties.Get: object_path= /org/freedesktop/portal/desktop: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.InvalidArgs: No such interface “org.freedesktop.portal.FileChooser”
[42461:0603/214655.116888:ERROR:electron/shell/browser/ui/file_dialog_linux_portal.cc:78] Failed to read portal version property
Loading app config: /usr/lib/element/webapp/config.json
Loading local config: /home/user/.config/Element/config.json
Skipping nonexistent file: /home/user/.config/Element/config.json
Reached Electron ready state
No update_base_url is defined: auto update is disabled
Fetching translation json for locale: en_EN
Changing application language to en
Fetching translation json for locale: en
Resetting the UI components after locale change
Resetting the UI components after locale change
Ensuring storage is ready
safeStorage backend 'gnome_libsecret' selected, 'gnome_libsecret' in config.
Error: safeStorage is not available
    at Store.prepareSafeStorage (file:///usr/lib/element/app.asar/lib/store.js:273:19)
    at async Store.safeStorageReady (file:///usr/lib/element/app.asar/lib/store.js:175:9)
    at async App.<anonymous> (file:///usr/lib/element/app.asar/lib/electron-main.js:402:9)
Opening main window
(node:42461) [DEP0044] DeprecationWarning: The `util.isArray` API is deprecated. Please use `Array.isArray()` instead.
(Use `electron --trace-deprecation ...` to show where the warning was created)
[42461:0603/214720.298737:ERROR:content/browser/network_service_instance_impl.cc:586] Network service crashed, restarting service.

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#4 2025-06-03 19:41:34

seth
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Registered: 2012-09-03
Posts: 66,053

Re: [Solved] element-desktop doesn't start

[42461:0603/214655.116888:ERROR:electron/shell/browser/ui/file_dialog_linux_portal.cc:78] Failed to read portal version property
…
safeStorage backend 'gnome_libsecret' selected, 'gnome_libsecret' in config.
Error: safeStorage is not available
loginctl session-status
echo $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS
dbus-send --session  --dest=org.freedesktop.DBus --type=method_call  --print-reply  /org/freedesktop/DBus   org.freedesktop.DBus.ListNames
ps aux | grep keyring

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#5 2025-06-04 06:56:58

gtarch
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Posts: 12

Re: [Solved] element-desktop doesn't start

2 - user (1000)
  Since: Tue 2025-06-03 09:22:33 EEST; 24h ago
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   Seat: seat0; vc8
Display: :0
 Remote: no
Service: lightdm
   Type: wayland
  Class: user
Desktop: xfce-wayland
   Idle: no
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         ├─ 1099 ssh-agent
         ├─ 1112 dbus-daemon --nofork --print-address 4 --session
         ├─ 1113 labwc --config-dir /home/user/.config/xfce4/labwc --config /home/user/.config/xfce4/labwc/rc.xml --session xfce4-session
         ├─ 1134 xfce4-session
         ├─ 1135 Xwayland :0 -rootless -core -terminate -listenfd 31 -listenfd 32 -displayfd 68 -wm 65
         ├─ 1150 /usr/lib/gvfsd
         ├─ 1156 /usr/lib/gvfsd-fuse /run/user/1000/gvfs -f
         ├─ 1166 /usr/lib/at-spi-bus-launcher
         ├─ 1172 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --config-file=/usr/share/defaults/at-spi2/accessibility.conf --nofork --print-address 11 --address=unix:path=/run/user/1000/at-spi/bus_0
         ├─ 1180 /usr/lib/at-spi2-registryd --use-gnome-session
         ├─ 1194 xfce4-panel
         ├─ 1195 Thunar --daemon
         ├─ 1221 /usr/lib/dconf-service
         ├─ 1230 /usr/lib/xfce4/panel/wrapper-2.0 /usr/lib/xfce4/panel/plugins/libpulseaudio-plugin.so 12 0 pulseaudio "PulseAudio Plugin" "Adjust the audio volume of the PulseAudio sound system"
         ├─ 1231 /usr/lib/xfce4/panel/wrapper-2.0 /usr/lib/xfce4/panel/plugins/libsystray.so 6 0 systray "Status Tray Plugin" "Provides status notifier items (application indicators) and legacy systray items"
         ├─ 1232 /usr/lib/xfce4/panel/wrapper-2.0 /usr/lib/xfce4/panel/plugins/libxfce4-sensors-plugin.so 9 0 xfce4-sensors-plugin "Sensor plugin" "Show sensor values."
         ├─ 1233 /usr/lib/xfce4/panel/wrapper-2.0 /usr/lib/xfce4/panel/plugins/libxfce4-sensors-plugin.so 10 0 xfce4-sensors-plugin "Sensor plugin" "Show sensor values."
         ├─ 1234 /usr/lib/xfce4/panel/wrapper-2.0 /usr/lib/xfce4/panel/plugins/libcpugraph.so 8 0 cpugraph "CPU Graph" "Graphical representation of the CPU load"
         ├─ 1261 /usr/lib/xfce4/panel/wrapper-2.0 /usr/lib/xfce4/panel/plugins/libactions.so 2 0 actions "Action Buttons" "Log out, lock or other system actions"
         ├─ 1304 /usr/lib/gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor
         ├─ 1322 /usr/lib/gvfs-mtp-volume-monitor
         ├─ 1360 /usr/lib/gvfsd-metadata
         ├─ 1364 /usr/lib/gvfsd-trash --spawner :1.2 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/0
         ├─ 1403 swayidle timeout 300 gtklock
         ├─ 1405 swaybg -i /home/user/Pictures/ArchWaveBlack.png
         ├─ 1408 /usr/lib/polkit-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1
         ├─ 1410 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/blueman-applet
         ├─ 1413 nm-applet
         ├─ 1520 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/blueman-tray
         ├─ 1585 xfce4-terminal
         ├─ 1592 -bash
         ├─ 1607 tmux
         ├─ 1609 tmux
         ├─ 1610 -bash
         ├─ 1629 sudo emacs -nw
         ├─ 1635 sudo emacs -nw
         ├─ 1636 emacs -nw
         ├─ 1645 -bash
         ├─ 1658 journalctl -f
         ├─ 1666 -bash
         ├─ 1793 xfce4-appfinder
         ├─ 2513 -bash
         ├─ 3111 /usr/lib/firefox/firefox
         ├─ 3115 /usr/lib/firefox/crashhelper 3111 9 /tmp/ 10 12
         ├─ 3160 /usr/lib/xdg-desktop-portal
         ├─ 3167 /usr/lib/xdg-permission-store
         ├─ 3179 /usr/lib/xdg-document-portal
         ├─ 3185 fusermount3 -o rw,nosuid,nodev,fsname=portal,auto_unmount,subtype=portal -- /run/user/1000/doc
         ├─ 3191 /usr/lib/xdg-desktop-portal-gtk
         ├─ 3251 /usr/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -parentBuildID 20250529222153 -prefsHandle 0:42273 -prefMapHandle 1:273228 -sandboxReporter 2 -chrootClient 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {a7eb0e1d-1530-4546-9fba-0ab3a8341b78} -parentPid 3111 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelperPid 3115 -appDir /usr/lib/firefox/browser 1 socket
         ├─ 3264 /usr/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:42338 -prefMapHandle 1:273228 -jsInitHandle 2:245828 -parentBuildID 20250529222153 -sandboxReporter 3 -chrootClient 4 -ipcHandle 5 -initialChannelId {febaefbb-35eb-49ae-a617-28f6751d51dd} -parentPid 3111 -crashReporter 6 -crashHelperPid 3115 -greomni /usr/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /usr/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /usr/lib/firefox/browser 2 tab
         ├─ 3271 /usr/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -parentBuildID 20250529222153 -prefsHandle 0:42338 -prefMapHandle 1:273228 -sandboxReporter 2 -chrootClient 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {cce68ff9-7d8a-409c-8122-16cce07c0691} -parentPid 3111 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelperPid 3115 -appDir /usr/lib/firefox/browser 3 rdd
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         ├─ 3619 /usr/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:42633 -prefMapHandle 1:273228 -jsInitHandle 2:245828 -parentBuildID 20250529222153 -sandboxReporter 3 -chrootClient 4 -ipcHandle 5 -initialChannelId {e2bb029e-7a26-4d8a-9d84-32f84dc67d81} -parentPid 3111 -crashReporter 6 -crashHelperPid 3115 -greomni /usr/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /usr/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /usr/lib/firefox/browser 11 tab
         ├─ 3869 /usr/lib/thunderbird/thunderbird
         ├─ 3985 /usr/lib/thunderbird/thunderbird -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:19240 -prefMapHandle 1:276730 -jsInitHandle 2:246092 -parentBuildID 20250528211559 -ipcHandle 3 -initialChannelId {31b234ef-2fff-42bb-8592-f20f36c85d59} -parentPid 3869 -greomni /usr/lib/thunderbird/omni.ja -appDir /usr/lib/thunderbird 1 tab
         ├─ 3989 /usr/lib/thunderbird/thunderbird -contentproc -parentBuildID 20250528211559 -prefsHandle 0:19240 -prefMapHandle 1:276730 -sandboxReporter 2 -chrootClient 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {f30e6b62-1690-4c27-809c-4be6b75ba877} -parentPid 3869 -appDir /usr/lib/thunderbird 2 rdd
         ├─ 4064 /usr/lib/thunderbird/thunderbird -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:9707 -prefMapHandle 1:276730 -jsInitHandle 2:246092 -parentBuildID 20250528211559 -ipcHandle 3 -initialChannelId {ba0be680-05c1-4f84-8bee-c18daa959d12} -parentPid 3869 -greomni /usr/lib/thunderbird/omni.ja -appDir /usr/lib/thunderbird 3 tab
         ├─ 4249 emacsclient --alternate-editor= --create-frame
         ├─ 4251 emacs --daemon
         ├─ 4278 emacsclient --alternate-editor= --create-frame
         ├─ 4323 -bash
         ├─ 4349 ckermit -y /home/user/.kermit/ssh = nuci3
         ├─ 4350 ssh -e none nuci3
         ├─ 4568 -bash
         ├─ 5190 /usr/lib/gvfsd-http --spawner :1.2 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/1
         ├─ 6005 /usr/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:42685 -prefMapHandle 1:273228 -jsInitHandle 2:245828 -parentBuildID 20250529222153 -sandboxReporter 3 -chrootClient 4 -ipcHandle 5 -initialChannelId {b94ab135-bc25-4dbf-be8b-d7f7916afd73} -parentPid 3111 -crashReporter 6 -crashHelperPid 3115 -greomni /usr/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /usr/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /usr/lib/firefox/browser 20 tab
         ├─ 6250 vlock
         ├─ 7805 /usr/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:42868 -prefMapHandle 1:273228 -jsInitHandle 2:245828 -parentBuildID 20250529222153 -sandboxReporter 3 -chrootClient 4 -ipcHandle 5 -initialChannelId {d787b640-40bd-48c8-abe3-fef9a701d476} -parentPid 3111 -crashReporter 6 -crashHelperPid 3115 -greomni /usr/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /usr/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /usr/lib/firefox/browser 26 tab
         ├─ 8337 /usr/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:42868 -prefMapHandle 1:273228 -jsInitHandle 2:245828 -parentBuildID 20250529222153 -sandboxReporter 3 -chrootClient 4 -ipcHandle 5 -initialChannelId {818ceb6e-7aba-4e2f-8f7f-4411b797e482} -parentPid 3111 -crashReporter 6 -crashHelperPid 3115 -greomni /usr/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /usr/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /usr/lib/firefox/browser 27 tab
         ├─ 8477 /usr/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:42868 -prefMapHandle 1:273228 -jsInitHandle 2:245828 -parentBuildID 20250529222153 -sandboxReporter 3 -chrootClient 4 -ipcHandle 5 -initialChannelId {f278dbfc-949d-4330-8ba5-a7e6a6f161ba} -parentPid 3111 -crashReporter 6 -crashHelperPid 3115 -greomni /usr/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /usr/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /usr/lib/firefox/browser 29 tab
         ├─ 9053 /usr/lib/chromium/chrome_crashpad_handler --monitor-self --monitor-self-annotation=ptype=crashpad-handler "--database=/home/user/.config/chromium/Crash Reports" "--annotation=channel=Arch Linux" "--annotation=lsb-release=Arch Linux" --annotation=plat=Linux --annotation=prod=Chrome_Linux --annotation=ver=137.0.7151.55 --initial-client-fd=5 --shared-client-connection
         ├─ 9055 /usr/lib/chromium/chrome_crashpad_handler --no-periodic-tasks --monitor-self-annotation=ptype=crashpad-handler "--database=/home/user/.config/chromium/Crash Reports" "--annotation=channel=Arch Linux" "--annotation=lsb-release=Arch Linux" --annotation=plat=Linux --annotation=prod=Chrome_Linux --annotation=ver=137.0.7151.55 --initial-client-fd=4 --shared-client-connection
         ├─ 9059 "/usr/lib/chromium/chromium --type=zygote --no-zygote-sandbox --crashpad-handler-pid=9053 --enable-crash-reporter=,Arch Linux --change-stack-guard-on-fork=enable"
         ├─ 9060 "/usr/lib/chromium/chromium --type=zygote --crashpad-handler-pid=9053 --enable-crash-reporter=,Arch Linux --change-stack-guard-on-fork=enable"
         ├─ 9062 "/usr/lib/chromium/chromium --type=zygote --crashpad-handler-pid=9053 --enable-crash-reporter=,Arch Linux --change-stack-guard-on-fork=enable"
         ├─ 9092 "/usr/lib/chromium/chromium --type=gpu-process --ozone-platform=wayland --crashpad-handler-pid=9053 --enable-crash-reporter=,Arch Linux --change-stack-guard-on-fork=enable --gpu-preferences=UAAAAAAAAAAgAAAEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABAAAAAAAAAAEAAAAAAAAAAIAAAAAAAAAAgAAAAAAAAA --shared-files --field-trial-handle=3,i,2386950386414413474,4862732679857938820,262144 --disable-features=EyeDropper --variations-seed-version"
         ├─ 9094 "/usr/lib/chromium/chromium --type=utility --utility-sub-type=network.mojom.NetworkService --lang=en-GB --service-sandbox-type=none --crashpad-handler-pid=9053 --enable-crash-reporter=,Arch Linux --change-stack-guard-on-fork=enable --shared-files=v8_context_snapshot_data:100 --field-trial-handle=3,i,2386950386414413474,4862732679857938820,262144 --disable-features=EyeDropper --variations-seed-version"
         ├─ 9096 "/usr/lib/chromium/chromium --type=utility --utility-sub-type=storage.mojom.StorageService --lang=en-GB --service-sandbox-type=utility --crashpad-handler-pid=9053 --enable-crash-reporter=,Arch Linux --change-stack-guard-on-fork=enable --shared-files=v8_context_snapshot_data:100 --field-trial-handle=3,i,2386950386414413474,4862732679857938820,262144 --disable-features=EyeDropper --variations-seed-version"
         ├─ 9144 "/usr/lib/chromium/chromium --type=renderer --crashpad-handler-pid=9053 --enable-crash-reporter=,Arch Linux --change-stack-guard-on-fork=enable --ozone-platform=wayland --lang=en-GB --num-raster-threads=4 --enable-main-frame-before-activation --renderer-client-id=6 --time-ticks-at-unix-epoch=-1748931699074091 --launch-time-ticks=7310547844 --shared-files=v8_context_snapshot_data:100 --field-trial-handle=3,i,2386950386414413474,4862732679857938820,262144 --disable-features=EyeDropper --variations-seed-version"
         ├─ 9166 "/usr/lib/chromium/chromium --type=renderer --crashpad-handler-pid=9053 --enable-crash-reporter=,Arch Linux --extension-process --change-stack-guard-on-fork=enable --ozone-platform=wayland --lang=en-GB --num-raster-threads=4 --enable-main-frame-before-activation --renderer-client-id=7 --time-ticks-at-unix-epoch=-1748931699074091 --launch-time-ticks=7310563852 --shared-files=v8_context_snapshot_data:100 --field-trial-handle=3,i,2386950386414413474,4862732679857938820,262144 --disable-features=EyeDropper --variations-seed-version"
         ├─ 9167 "/usr/lib/chromium/chromium --type=renderer --crashpad-handler-pid=9053 --enable-crash-reporter=,Arch Linux --extension-process --change-stack-guard-on-fork=enable --ozone-platform=wayland --lang=en-GB --num-raster-threads=4 --enable-main-frame-before-activation --renderer-client-id=8 --time-ticks-at-unix-epoch=-1748931699074091 --launch-time-ticks=7310565706 --shared-files=v8_context_snapshot_data:100 --field-trial-handle=3,i,2386950386414413474,4862732679857938820,262144 --disable-features=EyeDropper --variations-seed-version"
         ├─ 9217 "/usr/lib/chromium/chromium --type=renderer --crashpad-handler-pid=9053 --enable-crash-reporter=,Arch Linux --change-stack-guard-on-fork=enable --ozone-platform=wayland --lang=en-GB --num-raster-threads=4 --enable-main-frame-before-activation --renderer-client-id=10 --time-ticks-at-unix-epoch=-1748931699074091 --launch-time-ticks=7318177071 --shared-files=v8_context_snapshot_data:100 --field-trial-handle=3,i,2386950386414413474,4862732679857938820,262144 --disable-features=EyeDropper --variations-seed-version"
         ├─ 9222 "/usr/lib/chromium/chromium --type=renderer --crashpad-handler-pid=9053 --enable-crash-reporter=,Arch Linux --change-stack-guard-on-fork=enable --ozone-platform=wayland --lang=en-GB --num-raster-threads=4 --enable-main-frame-before-activation --renderer-client-id=9 --time-ticks-at-unix-epoch=-1748931699074091 --launch-time-ticks=7318182388 --shared-files=v8_context_snapshot_data:100 --field-trial-handle=3,i,2386950386414413474,4862732679857938820,262144 --disable-features=EyeDropper --variations-seed-version"
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         ├─10378 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/pylsp
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         ├─71793 /usr/lib/xfce4/notifyd/xfce4-notifyd
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         ├─71967 /usr/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:43015 -prefMapHandle 1:273228 -jsInitHandle 2:245828 -parentBuildID 20250529222153 -sandboxReporter 3 -chrootClient 4 -ipcHandle 5 -initialChannelId {0f5f2e01-3ee3-4257-8941-d118fe9220c5} -parentPid 3111 -crashReporter 6 -crashHelperPid 3115 -greomni /usr/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /usr/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /usr/lib/firefox/browser 124 tab
         ├─72032 /bin/sh /usr/bin/remmina-file-wrapper
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         ├─72602 /usr/bin/bash
         └─72621 loginctl session-status

Jun 03 09:23:48 hostname sudo[1629]:   user : TTY=pts/2 ; PWD=/home/user ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/bin/emacs -nw
Jun 03 09:23:48 hostname sudo[1629]: pam_unix(sudo:session): session opened for user root(uid=0) by user(uid=1000)
Jun 03 09:33:06 hostname gnome-keyring-daemon[4423]: discover_other_daemon: 1
Jun 03 09:34:01 hostname chrome[4378]: [4378:4396:0603/093401.786068:INFO:chrome/browser/extensions/extension_garbage_collector.cc:184] Garbage collection for extensions on file thread is complete.
Jun 03 09:41:32 hostname vlock[5113]: Locked tty on pts/1 for user by (uid=1000)
Jun 03 10:07:08 hostname vlock[5113]: pam_unix(vlock:auth): authentication failure; logname=user uid=1000 euid=1000 tty=pts/1 ruser= rhost=  user=user
Jun 03 10:07:12 hostname vlock[6085]: pam_unix(vlock:account): setuid failed: Operation not permitted
Jun 03 10:07:12 hostname vlock[5113]: Unlocked tty on pts/1 for user by (uid=1000)
Jun 03 10:12:14 hostname vlock[6250]: Locked tty on pts/1 for user by (uid=1000)
Jun 03 10:27:54 hostname gnome-keyring-daemon[6910]: discover_other_daemon: 1
unix:path=/tmp/dbus-4hv9OV1SWF,guid=821d3c454bbd9af6600f4ac3683e94aa
method return time=1749018959.138640 sender=org.freedesktop.DBus -> destination=:1.216 serial=3 reply_serial=2
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      string "org.freedesktop.DBus"
      string "org.freedesktop.Notifications"
      string ":1.7"
      string "org.freedesktop.network-manager-applet"
      string ":1.8"
      string ":1.207"
      string "org.freedesktop.portal.Desktop"
      string ":1.9"
      string "org.xfce.PanelPlugin10"
      string "org.gtk.vfs.mountpoint_1364"
      string "org.xfce.PanelPlugin12"
      string "org.xfce.Terminal5"
      string "org.xfce.Notifyd"
      string "org.gtk.vfs.Daemon"
      string "org.blueman.Tray"
      string ":1.81"
      string "org.freedesktop.impl.portal.desktop.gtk"
      string "org.xfce.Panel"
      string ":1.82"
      string ":1.60"
      string ":1.83"
      string ":1.61"
      string "org.xfce.Appfinder"
      string "org.gtk.vfs.UDisks2VolumeMonitor"
      string "org.a11y.Bus"
      string ":1.20"
      string "org.mozilla.firefox.L2hvbWUvZ2VvcmdlLy5tb3ppbGxhL2ZpcmVmb3gvdHN6OXp5azguZGVmYXVsdC0xNjc2MDQ2OTQzMjU5"
      string ":1.43"
      string ":1.21"
      string ":1.44"
      string ":1.22"
      string ":1.23"
      string ":1.24"
      string ":1.199"
      string ":1.69"
      string ":1.25"
      string ":1.48"
      string ":1.26"
      string ":1.27"
      string "org.xfce.FileManager"
      string ":1.28"
      string ":1.214"
      string "org.freedesktop.portal.Documents"
      string "ca.desrt.dconf"
      string ":1.29"
      string ":1.216"
      string "org.freedesktop.FileManager1"
      string "org.gtk.vfs.mountpoint_http"
      string "org.xfce.SessionManager"
      string "org.xfce.PanelPlugin2"
      string ":1.92"
      string ":1.70"
      string ":1.93"
      string ":1.72"
      string "org.blueman.Applet"
      string ":1.50"
      string "org.xfce.Thunar"
      string ":1.73"
      string ":1.51"
      string "org.xfce.PanelPlugin6"
      string ":1.74"
      string ":1.52"
      string "org.gtk.vfs.Metadata"
      string ":1.30"
      string "org.mozilla.thunderbird.L2hvbWUvZ2VvcmdlLy50aHVuZGVyYmlyZC9vY2l3ODRrei5kZWZhdWx0LXJlbGVhc2U_"
      string ":1.75"
      string ":1.53"
      string "org.xfce.PanelPlugin8"
      string "org.freedesktop.impl.portal.PermissionStore"
      string "org.xfce.PanelPlugin9"
      string ":1.55"
      string ":1.33"
      string ":1.11"
      string ":1.56"
      string ":1.34"
      string "org.kde.StatusNotifierWatcher"
      string ":1.35"
      string "org.remmina.Remmina"
      string ":1.1"
      string ":1.14"
      string ":1.37"
      string ":1.2"
      string ":1.15"
      string ":1.124"
      string ":1.38"
      string "org.gtk.vfs.MTPVolumeMonitor"
      string ":1.3"
      string ":1.16"
      string ":1.202"
      string ":1.4"
      string ":1.5"
      string ":1.19"
   ]
user      1075  0.0  0.0 182080 10876 ?        SLsl Jun03   0:00 /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --foreground --components=pkcs11,secrets --control-directory=/run/user/1000/keyring
user     72656  0.0  0.0   6452  3760 pts/9    S+   09:36   0:00 grep keyring

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#6 2025-06-04 07:05:22

seth
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Registered: 2012-09-03
Posts: 66,053

Re: [Solved] element-desktop doesn't start

         ├─ 1083 dbus-run-session -- labwc --config-dir /home/user/.config/xfce4/labwc --config /home/user/.config/xfce4/labwc/rc.xml --session xfce4-session

Why are we dbus-running anything here?
Remove that, it causes

unix:path=/tmp/dbus-4hv9OV1SWF,guid=821d3c454bbd9af6600f4ac3683e94aa

what's likely breaking integration w/ the session bus what's likely why org.freedesktop.secrets doesn't show up despite gkr running.

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#7 2025-06-04 07:53:11

gtarch
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Registered: 2022-10-14
Posts: 12

Re: [Solved] element-desktop doesn't start

seth wrote:

Why are we dbus-running anything here?

That's coming from startxfce4.

seth wrote:

Remove that, it causes

unix:path=/tmp/dbus-4hv9OV1SWF,guid=821d3c454bbd9af6600f4ac3683e94aa

what's likely breaking integration w/ the session bus what's likely why org.freedesktop.secrets doesn't show up despite gkr running.

I edited the script and now I have

DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=/run/user/1000/bus

and element-desktop starts.
Should I file a bug report against startxfce4?

Edit: Nevermind I checked upstream and the problem has been fixed, but probably not released yet. Marking as solved.

Last edited by gtarch (2025-06-04 09:06:05)

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#8 2025-06-12 13:25:49

basncy@gmail.com
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Registered: 2024-10-27
Posts: 1

Re: [Solved] element-desktop doesn't start

Same error on xfce4:

safeStorage backend 'gnome_libsecret' selected, 'gnome_libsecret' in config.
Error: safeStorage is not available

I use pacman -S gnome-keyring libsecret to solve it.

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#9 2025-06-12 13:31:59

seth
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Registered: 2012-09-03
Posts: 66,053

Re: [Solved] element-desktop doesn't start

The OP wrote:

I have gnome-keyring-daemon running and the safeStorage backend is configured to gnome_libsecret.

That's not the original problem. At the time startxfce4 opened a new dbus session, disconnecting gnome-keyring from the session.
You just didn't install the tool you wanted (?) to use.

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