You are not logged in.

Pages: 1 2

Topic closed

#1 2025-06-22 01:41:56

jojo06
Member
Registered: 2023-11-04
Posts: 299

[SOLVED] Wayland/X server update problem aftermath

I dont know is it any related to i just updated wayland for able to use kde but here is what happened just now:

guns @ roses:~ % sudo pacman -Syu --noconfirm && sudo shutdown now
:: Synchronizing package databases...
 core is up to date
 extra is up to date
 multilib is up to date
:: Starting full system upgrade...
resolving dependencies...
looking for conflicting packages...

Packages (21) ca-certificates-mozilla-3.113-1  kio-extras-25.04.2-2  liburcu-0.15.3-1  linux-6.15.3.arch1-1  linux-firmware-20250613.12fe085f-5
              linux-firmware-amdgpu-20250613.12fe085f-5  linux-firmware-atheros-20250613.12fe085f-5  linux-firmware-broadcom-20250613.12fe085f-5
              linux-firmware-intel-20250613.12fe085f-5  linux-firmware-mediatek-20250613.12fe085f-5  linux-firmware-nvidia-20250613.12fe085f-5
              linux-firmware-other-20250613.12fe085f-5  linux-firmware-radeon-20250613.12fe085f-5  linux-firmware-realtek-20250613.12fe085f-5
              linux-firmware-whence-20250613.12fe085f-5  linux-headers-6.15.3.arch1-1  nss-3.113-1  nvidia-575.64-2  orca-48.5-1  plasma-workspace-6.4.0-5
              plasma-x11-session-6.4.0-5

Total Download Size:   641.96 MiB
Total Installed Size:  905.16 MiB
Net Upgrade Size:       66.88 MiB

:: Proceed with installation? [Y/n] 
:: Retrieving packages...
 linux-6.15.3.arch1-1-x86_64                                         141.2 MiB  5.75 MiB/s 00:25 [#########################################################] 100%
 linux-firmware-intel-20250613.12fe085f-5-any                        104.5 MiB  5.79 MiB/s 00:18 [#########################################################] 100%
 linux-firmware-nvidia-20250613.12fe085f-5-any                        98.8 MiB  5.54 MiB/s 00:18 [#########################################################] 100%
 nvidia-575.64-2-x86_64                                               84.6 MiB  5.78 MiB/s 00:15 [#########################################################] 100%
 linux-headers-6.15.3.arch1-1-x86_64                                  51.2 MiB  5.71 MiB/s 00:09 [#########################################################] 100%
 linux-firmware-atheros-20250613.12fe085f-5-any                       41.6 MiB  5.76 MiB/s 00:07 [#########################################################] 100%
 linux-firmware-other-20250613.12fe085f-5-any                         24.8 MiB  5.73 MiB/s 00:04 [#########################################################] 100%
 linux-firmware-amdgpu-20250613.12fe085f-5-any                        24.3 MiB  5.73 MiB/s 00:04 [#########################################################] 100%
 linux-firmware-mediatek-20250613.12fe085f-5-any                      22.0 MiB  5.72 MiB/s 00:04 [#########################################################] 100%
 plasma-workspace-6.4.0-5-x86_64                                      21.8 MiB  5.72 MiB/s 00:04 [#########################################################] 100%
 linux-firmware-broadcom-20250613.12fe085f-5-any                      12.9 MiB  5.66 MiB/s 00:02 [#########################################################] 100%
 linux-firmware-realtek-20250613.12fe085f-5-any                        5.3 MiB  5.46 MiB/s 00:01 [#########################################################] 100%
 orca-48.5-1-any                                                       2.7 MiB  5.16 MiB/s 00:01 [#########################################################] 100%
 linux-firmware-radeon-20250613.12fe085f-5-any                         2.3 MiB  5.05 MiB/s 00:00 [#########################################################] 100%
 kio-extras-25.04.2-2-x86_64                                        1918.3 KiB  4.94 MiB/s 00:00 [#########################################################] 100%
 nss-3.113-1-x86_64                                                 1653.0 KiB  4.82 MiB/s 00:00 [#########################################################] 100%
 ca-certificates-mozilla-3.113-1-x86_64                              386.4 KiB  2.97 MiB/s 00:00 [#########################################################] 100%
 liburcu-0.15.3-1-x86_64                                             131.7 KiB  1021 KiB/s 00:00 [#########################################################] 100%
 linux-firmware-whence-20250613.12fe085f-5-any                        39.9 KiB   664 KiB/s 00:00 [#########################################################] 100%
 plasma-x11-session-6.4.0-5-x86_64                                     6.5 KiB   110 KiB/s 00:00 [#########################################################] 100%
 linux-firmware-20250613.12fe085f-5-any                                2.4 KiB  41.6 KiB/s 00:00 [#########################################################] 100%
 Total (21/21)                                                       642.0 MiB  5.63 MiB/s 01:54 [#########################################################] 100%
(21/21) checking keys in keyring                                                                 [#########################################################] 100%
(21/21) checking package integrity                                                               [#########################################################] 100%
(21/21) loading package files                                                                    [#########################################################] 100%
(21/21) checking for file conflicts                                                              [#########################################################] 100%
error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files)
linux-firmware-nvidia: /usr/lib/firmware/nvidia/ad103 exists in filesystem
linux-firmware-nvidia: /usr/lib/firmware/nvidia/ad104 exists in filesystem
linux-firmware-nvidia: /usr/lib/firmware/nvidia/ad106 exists in filesystem
linux-firmware-nvidia: /usr/lib/firmware/nvidia/ad107 exists in filesystem
Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded.

Last edited by jojo06 (2025-06-29 23:19:57)

Offline

#2 2025-06-22 01:57:14

skunktrader
Member
From: Brisbane, Australia
Registered: 2010-02-14
Posts: 1,641

Re: [SOLVED] Wayland/X server update problem aftermath

Read the news on the front page

Offline

#3 2025-06-22 02:41:42

yue
Member
Registered: 2025-06-22
Posts: 1

Re: [SOLVED] Wayland/X server update problem aftermath

I solved the same problem by doing:

# pacman -Rdd linux-firmware
# pacman -Syu linux-firmware

you can refer to the following website:
https://archlinux.org/news/linux-firmwa … ervention/

Last edited by yue (2025-06-22 02:50:33)

Offline

#4 2025-06-22 03:13:07

Scimmia
Fellow
Registered: 2012-09-01
Posts: 13,076

Re: [SOLVED] Wayland/X server update problem aftermath

Please see https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Genera … management

Offline

#5 2025-06-22 05:08:47

jojo06
Member
Registered: 2023-11-04
Posts: 299

Re: [SOLVED] Wayland/X server update problem aftermath

skunktrader wrote:

Read the news on the front page

Yeah, i realize that. A lot of updates, manual intervention required.

@Scimmia which part you mean its related with news and `manual intervention` ? I didnt see anything different than before. And what is happening with all new updates, changes ? smile

@yue Yeap, that did the trick.

Thank you all. Solved.

Offline

#6 2025-06-22 17:02:21

hoarah
Member
Registered: 2025-03-16
Posts: 5

Re: [SOLVED] Wayland/X server update problem aftermath

just happened to me now
thanks @yue

Last edited by hoarah (2025-06-22 17:02:43)

Offline

#7 2025-06-22 18:17:48

stevenreina
Member
Registered: 2025-06-22
Posts: 2

Re: [SOLVED] Wayland/X server update problem aftermath

To bypass this problem I just deleted the directories, which maybe I shouldn't have. What package(s) do I need to restore them in such case?

Offline

#8 2025-06-22 18:26:13

cryptearth
Member
Registered: 2024-02-03
Posts: 1,719

Re: [SOLVED] Wayland/X server update problem aftermath

stevenreina wrote:

To bypass this problem I just deleted the directories

never EVER do THIS ever again!
files and directories managed by a package should only be modified by it (or the package manager for that matter)
pacman keeps track of folders and files of each package - and if something changes because YOU played around in the filesystem this can lead to severe issues all the way to render the system unavailable

Offline

#9 2025-06-22 20:07:30

dontbejeff
Member
Registered: 2025-06-22
Posts: 1

Re: [SOLVED] Wayland/X server update problem aftermath

cryptearth wrote:
stevenreina wrote:

To bypass this problem I just deleted the directories

never EVER do THIS ever again!
files and directories managed by a package should only be modified by it (or the package manager for that matter)
pacman keeps track of folders and files of each package - and if something changes because YOU played around in the filesystem this can lead to severe issues all the way to render the system unavailable

While this is correct, let's try to watch our text tones. No need to be this way especially when a lot of people are new here.

Yes, let's be careful. However we can say this nicely.

"Please do not delete things unless you want to experience re-installing your system and possibly questioning your choice on switching to Linux"

I would even add "in the future, if you feel confident that the files in question may not be needed, rename them first, update, and if all goes well, then delete them" Still wouldn't recommend it, but still a nice way of putting it.

Why am I saying all of this? Because I feel in a forum called "Newbie Corner" that some soft skills is very necessary to help others who are new to Linux, and we all don't want them to fall into pitfalls of doing things without knowing what it will do (and be the bane of any desktop admin for having to fix their carelessness.)

Have fun, and as stated, please do not delete files/directories as this can be very detrimental to the functioning of your Arch system.

Last edited by dontbejeff (2025-06-22 20:08:14)

Offline

#10 2025-06-23 08:23:55

thommen
Member
From: Poland
Registered: 2017-12-30
Posts: 239

Re: [SOLVED] Wayland/X server update problem aftermath

Made to → https://archlinux.org/news/linux-firmwa … ervention/. There is no Plasma - X11 session, Wayland remains. How to restore X11?

Offline

#11 2025-06-23 08:25:11

skunktrader
Member
From: Brisbane, Australia
Registered: 2010-02-14
Posts: 1,641

Re: [SOLVED] Wayland/X server update problem aftermath

thommen wrote:

Made to → https://archlinux.org/news/linux-firmwa … ervention/. There is no Plasma - X11 session, Wayland remains. How to restore X11?

https://archlinux.org/news/plasma-640-w … re-on-x11/

Offline

#12 2025-06-23 14:47:05

stevenreina
Member
Registered: 2025-06-22
Posts: 2

Re: [SOLVED] Wayland/X server update problem aftermath

dontbejeff wrote:

Let's try to watch our text tones. No need to be this way especially when a lot of people are new here.

It's alright! I don't feel offended, and in fact that is a good signal that I really shouldn't be "messing around" with system files like that. I admit that was pretty much an unintelligent move on my side!
Thank you both though, for the willingness to help out @crypteart @dontbejeff

Offline

#13 2025-06-23 15:19:03

cryptearth
Member
Registered: 2024-02-03
Posts: 1,719

Re: [SOLVED] Wayland/X server update problem aftermath

dontbejeff wrote:

...

registered: yesterday
posts: 1

ok ... *popcorn emoji
come back to me when you gained moderator status - until then: don't be so presumptuous

Offline

#14 2025-06-23 16:49:59

lachesis
Member
Registered: 2012-07-17
Posts: 9

Re: [SOLVED] Wayland/X server update problem aftermath

Here's a direct link to the news:
https://archlinux.org/news/linux-firmwa … ervention/

Always a good idea to read the news before upgrading, or at least if you see an issue.

Offline

#15 2025-06-23 23:15:43

georgerabus
Member
Registered: 2025-02-09
Posts: 1

Re: [SOLVED] Wayland/X server update problem aftermath

How to implement important news alert function when updating the system, like gentoo does?

Offline

#16 2025-06-24 00:10:52

Scimmia
Fellow
Registered: 2012-09-01
Posts: 13,076

Re: [SOLVED] Wayland/X server update problem aftermath

Again, https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 7#p2247257

Offline

#17 2025-06-24 03:18:10

bodrah
Member
Registered: 2024-03-28
Posts: 16

Re: [SOLVED] Wayland/X server update problem aftermath

yue wrote:

I solved the same problem by doing:

# pacman -Rdd linux-firmware
# pacman -Syu linux-firmware

you can refer to the following website:
https://archlinux.org/news/linux-firmwa … ervention/

This worked and I clicked the link but I don't really understand why this is the fix.  Could anyone explain why this is the fix?  Like I said I read the website linked above.

Offline

#18 2025-06-24 10:43:05

JosepF
Member
Registered: 2023-08-28
Posts: 10

Re: [SOLVED] Wayland/X server update problem aftermath

lachesis wrote:

Always a good idea to read the news before upgrading, or at least if you see an issue.

Best tip in the whole thread! Something that each of us should always keep in mind before upgrading, whether we are newbies like me, or intermediate/advanced users.

Thanks for reminding us, lachesis.
.

Last edited by JosepF (2025-06-24 10:53:28)

Offline

#19 2025-06-24 11:29:13

Whoracle
Member
Registered: 2010-11-02
Posts: 171

Re: [SOLVED] Wayland/X server update problem aftermath

georgerabus wrote:

How to implement important news alert function when updating the system, like gentoo does?

Check informant in the AUR.

Offline

#20 2025-06-25 15:12:20

persist
Member
Registered: 2025-06-25
Posts: 2

Re: [SOLVED] Wayland/X server update problem aftermath

bodrah wrote:
yue wrote:

I solved the same problem by doing:

# pacman -Rdd linux-firmware
# pacman -Syu linux-firmware

you can refer to the following website:
https://archlinux.org/news/linux-firmwa … ervention/

This worked and I clicked the link but I don't really understand why this is the fix.  Could anyone explain why this is the fix?  Like I said I read the website linked above.

the -Rdd Removes the package while ignoring the dependencies, both required by the linux-firmware package, in this case, and requiring the linux-firmware package.

The linux-firmware package is the offending package throwing the error, so by removing it 'surgically' we can reinstall it in place without breaking any of the other packages that are expecting it, or expected by it.

Offline

#21 2025-06-25 17:57:50

Hanabishi
Member
Registered: 2020-08-07
Posts: 45

Re: [SOLVED] Wayland/X server update problem aftermath

georgerabus wrote:

How to implement important news alert function when updating the system, like gentoo does?

Just subscribe to the Arch-announce newsletter.

Offline

#22 2025-06-28 17:52:33

Sudouken
Member
Registered: 2025-06-28
Posts: 5

Re: [SOLVED] Wayland/X server update problem aftermath

dontbejeff wrote:
cryptearth wrote:
stevenreina wrote:

To bypass this problem I just deleted the directories

never EVER do THIS ever again!
files and directories managed by a package should only be modified by it (or the package manager for that matter)
pacman keeps track of folders and files of each package - and if something changes because YOU played around in the filesystem this can lead to severe issues all the way to render the system unavailable

While this is correct, let's try to watch our text tones. No need to be this way especially when a lot of people are new here.

Yes, let's be careful. However we can say this nicely.

Ugh!! Can we not do this please? It's bad enough we have to walk on eggshells with freaking HR at our jobs without having to worry about injuring someone's delicate feelings on our downtime as well. Nothing about what he said was offensive in any way. It was simply a stern and wise warning, and very poignant. We do not need SJWs to be offended on behalf of others who are not. This has become toxic to our society.

@stevenreina: good on you sir.
@cryptearth: great advice, and I appreciated it as well. Cheers!

Offline

#23 2025-06-29 18:38:23

jojo06
Member
Registered: 2023-11-04
Posts: 299

Re: [SOLVED] Wayland/X server update problem aftermath

There was no problem. But now i have mouse cursor in the form of a crosshair on the black screen. Then the cursor starts blinking state. tty did not open at first, now it opens. gdm cannot be started.

journalctl -u gdm.service -b | tail -50

gdm[992]: Gdm: GdmDisplay: Session never registered, failing

I also tried lightdm but it didn't work. I tried to reinstall the packages. I tried that too:

sudo pacman -Syu kwin plasma-workspace
sudo pacman -Rns kwin-x11 plasma-x11-session
sudo systemctl restart gdm

Still same.

Last edited by jojo06 (2025-06-29 20:05:55)

Offline

#24 2025-06-29 21:12:18

jojo06
Member
Registered: 2023-11-04
Posts: 299

Re: [SOLVED] Wayland/X server update problem aftermath

Please help, im stuck. Nothing is working. Tried to X11 and wayland but nope. I cant operate my computer. Nothing working

Offline

#25 2025-06-29 21:38:14

seth
Member
From: Don't DM me only for attention
Registered: 2012-09-03
Posts: 68,978

Re: [SOLVED] Wayland/X server update problem aftermath

Nothing is working.

Read https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=57855 and then post your complete system journal for the boot: 

sudo journalctl -b | curl -F 'file=@-' 0x0.st

How to upload text · How to boot w/o GUI · Disable Windows Fast-Start! · Fix your xinitrc

Online

Pages: 1 2

Topic closed

Board footer

Powered by FluxBB