System update broke Conky transparency... again.

Leprotto · 2025-10-31 18:14:40

Last edited by Leprotto (2025-10-31 18:33:14)

Scimmia · 2025-10-31 18:18:19

Have you verified that rebuilding fixes it? Have you looked at stdout/stderr? Have you opened a ticket on the bug tracker?

Posting here asking that it be rebuilt will do nothing.

Leprotto · 2025-10-31 18:38:19

Sorry i edited the post since rebuilding from source changed nothing.
Still i rember the last time this issue showed it was due to a library compatibility.

This is my stdout when i launch conky:

conky --daemonize
conky: desktop window (0x350) is root window
conky: window type - normal
conky: drawing to created window (0x1200002)
conky: drawing to double buffer
conky: forked to background, pid is 1003575
conky: FOUND: wayland
conky: FOUND: x11
conky: FOUND: file
conky: FOUND: ncurses
conky: FOUND: console
conky: 'KDE' wayland session running

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seth · 2025-10-31 19:37:53

Is this about https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=309570 ?
https://imgur.com/SVyo0ip looks translucent while https://imgur.com/a/0V4yhZL is completely transparent - neither fits the subject (depending on the definition of "broken")

Leprotto · 2025-11-02 01:59:27

Yes indeed, it already happened last year.
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=300117

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seth · 2025-11-02 09:01:27

Lepretto wrote:

Yes indeed, it already happened last year.

the other thread wrote:

lines and the lines of frames (downspeedgraph) disappeared

How does that relate in any way shape or form to anything else here?

==> https://deepl.com/

Looking at your screenshots again: is the problem the missing bitmap (?) archlinux icon?
(Is that part of an overall background image)

Please at least post your conkyrc so we can get an idea what you're expecting.

Leprotto · 2025-11-02 12:21:16

seth wrote:

Lepretto wrote:
Yes indeed, it already happened last year.
the other thread wrote:
lines and the lines of frames (downspeedgraph) disappeared
How does that relate in any way shape or form to anything else here?
==> https://deepl.com/
Looking at your screenshots again: is the problem the missing bitmap (?) archlinux icon?
(Is that part of an overall background image)
Please at least post your conkyrc so we can get an idea what you're expecting.

It's the missing Archlinux icon and i had the same exact issue the last year, after a kwin update.

This is my conkyrc:

https://pastebin.com/fEBvNSWi

Leprotto · 2025-11-02 13:24:23

Another hint i have just found. I have no issues on X11, just wayland.

seth · 2025-11-02 15:51:16

I have no issues on X11, just wayland.

That's almost expected.
How does conky behave w/ another compositor like sway or weston?

    own_window = true,
    own_window_class = 'Conky',
    own_window_type = 'normal',
    own_window_hints = 'undecorated,below,skip_taskbar,skip_pager',
    own_window_transparent = true,
    own_window_argb_visual = true,
    own_window_argb_value = 200,

So the background also should™ be almost opaque - you're not defining a color though, maybe conky then goes for 0x00000000 (ie, transparent instead of 0xff000000)?

Leprotto · 2025-11-03 12:11:37

I removed own_window_argb_value because it's not necessary for full transparency.
Another thing i've noticed is the logo image shows if i set own_window_type to 'desktop' or 'dock', but obviously non of those settings are good.

seth · 2025-11-03 13:17:58

seth wrote:

How does conky behave w/ another compositor like sway or weston?

and see the other thread, https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=309570 notably if this is not a problem w/ the other compositors.

Leprotto · 2025-11-03 14:14:12

seth wrote:

seth wrote:
How does conky behave w/ another compositor like sway or weston?
and see the other thread, https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=309570 notably if this is not a problem w/ the other compositors.

I don't have other compositors so i cannot tell.
But i managed to workaround the issue with a lua script which makes use of cairo_xlib to draw the image.

lua script

Last edited by Leprotto (2025-11-03 14:15:26)

seth · 2025-11-03 14:23:40

https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/weston/
https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/sway/

Edit

makes use of cairo_xlib to draw the image

So the problem seems with cairos wayland backend?

Last edited by seth (2025-11-03 14:24:39)

Leprotto · 2025-11-03 15:49:03

seth wrote:

https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/weston/
https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/sway/

I mean, wouldn't that mess my kde configs?

Seth wrote:

Edit
makes use of cairo_xlib to draw the image
So the problem seems with cairos wayland backend?

Do conky makes use of cairo wayland backend by default to draw images?

seth · 2025-11-03 16:09:06

You're using weston or sway *instead* of KDE - they don't related.
You can install and run multiple environments at the same time.

Conky uses cairo - if explicitly using cairo_xlib works but the other cairo_surface_create_* or cairo_draw_image don't then I'd guess that cairo_xlib is otherwise not involved.

Leprotto · 2025-11-03 18:12:20

seth wrote:

You're using weston or sway *instead* of KDE - they don't related.
You can install and run multiple environments at the same time.
Conky uses cairo - if explicitly using cairo_xlib works but the other cairo_surface_create_* or cairo_draw_image don't then I'd guess that cairo_xlib is otherwise not involved.

What about the linux community old adagio "never install more than one DE at a time or, at least, make sure to create a new user for every DE. Otherwise it could cause configuration conflicts, break applications and lead to unexpected behavior?"

seth · 2025-11-03 20:19:57

What about the linux community old adagio "never install more than one DE at a time"

What linux community and how old?
Reddit? Post 2020?

This is bullshit.
On rare occasion one big fat DE *might* have reconfigured settings that another big fat DE wanted to use but I cannot even recall the last that such happened and it's nothing you'd see frequently and certainly not with simple wayland compositors or X11 WMs.

Leprotto · 2025-11-03 22:10:38

Ok i can at least confirm that Weston doesn't have this issue.

seth · 2025-11-03 22:24:39

Probably same as https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=309570
=> https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?compon … esolution=---

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