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#1 2007-10-19 12:07:11

holytrousers
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Win32 Codecs

Hello !
I am new to arch linux, but i like it wink
I am surprised to not having found any topic about win32 codecs, neither on tthe wiki, nor on the forums !
So i i think we should start it here, a detailed howto !
And request a package with win32 codecs in extra or community.
Then create a wiki wink
So what do you think ?

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#2 2007-10-19 12:14:32

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Re: Win32 Codecs

There are codecs in the "codecs" package. Those are the same win32codecs codecs you find elsewhere.

http://www.archlinux.org/packages/searc … =&limit=50

Use the search box on the home page to find packages. You will see a list of packages that match your keyword as well as a detailed description if you click the package name.

Also, you can look for packages using pacman itself by issuing:

pacman -Ss codecs

Replace "codecs" with any keyword you want. If you want to look for package names only, then:

pacman -Sl | grep keyword

Welcome to Arch community, and have a nice arch experience. smile

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#3 2007-10-19 12:28:14

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Re: Win32 Codecs

Thanx for this quick answer, and i am honoured to make part of the community.
But my machine is a 64 amd.
SO maybe thats why the codecs wont setup properly ( package size  0,8 mb, strange isnt it ? )

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#4 2007-10-19 12:30:35

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Re: Win32 Codecs

What codecs are you missing?

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#5 2007-10-19 12:50:00

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Re: Win32 Codecs

well for exmple, kaffeine shows now win32codecs are installed, go to blablabla.
Trying to play a mms stream ( micro$oft ) fails, trying real, fails ...
But playing normal avi is okay

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#6 2007-10-19 14:14:32

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Re: Win32 Codecs

I've never tried mms streams, but maybe you could give mplayer a shot? It has the plugin that works with FireFox, and a kmplayer frontend for KDE. It's not as slick as Kaffeine, but it will play the hell out of most videos. smile

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#7 2007-10-19 14:50:36

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Re: Win32 Codecs

foxbunny wrote:

I've never tried mms streams, but maybe you could give mplayer a shot?

VLC also. MMS is not a codec, it's a protocol, so the Win32 codec package won't help you until playback time.

Last edited by skottish (2007-10-19 14:52:38)

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#8 2007-10-19 15:08:20

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Re: Win32 Codecs

humm, skottish : kaffeine outputs this message : xine: cannot find input plugin for MRL

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#9 2007-10-19 15:35:39

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Re: Win32 Codecs

holytrousers wrote:

humm, skottish : kaffeine outputs this message : xine: cannot find input plugin for MRL

The strange thing is that from what I can tell, Kaffeine should be able to handle MMS. Is this the only error that you're receiving? That error is seriously common, but all of the posts I read so far have to do with CSS encrypted DVDs (lack of libdvdcss installed).

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#10 2007-10-21 02:11:02

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Re: Win32 Codecs

Humm, well here is the detailed message if that could help :
04:10:15 AM: xine: cannot find input plugin for MRL [mms://stream.polskieradio.pl/Program]
04:10:15 AM: xine: input plugin cannot open MRL [mms://stream.polskieradio.pl/Program]
04:10:15 AM: libmmsh: http status not 2xx: >503 Service Unavailable<
04:10:08 AM: xine: found input plugin : mms streaming input plugin

Any ideas ?

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#11 2007-10-21 02:29:10

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Re: Win32 Codecs

I get a similar error when using VLC  to play that stream on Arch64. I have never played a mms stream before so I can't know for sure if it is a software error or a problem with the stream. The "503 Service Unavailable" makes me think the server is broken. Are you sure it works?

access_mms error: error while asking for file -1
access_mms error: error while asking for file -1
access_mms error: cannot connect to server
access_mms error: error: HTTP/1.0 503 Service Unavailable
main error: no suitable access module for `mms://stream.polskieradio.pl/Program'

Last edited by dmartins (2007-10-21 02:30:24)

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#12 2007-10-21 02:48:43

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Re: Win32 Codecs

MMS works fine in VLC and MPlayer, but the link you posted above doesn't work in either. MPlayer is also reporting the 503 error.

Playing mms://stream.polskieradio.pl/Program.
STREAM_ASF, URL: mms://stream.polskieradio.pl/Program
Resolving stream.polskieradio.pl for AF_INET...
Connecting to server stream.polskieradio.pl[195.245.217.7]: 1755...
Connected
read error:: Operation now in progress
pre-header read failed
Resolving stream.polskieradio.pl for AF_INET...
Connecting to server stream.polskieradio.pl[195.245.217.7]: 80...
Server returned 503:Service Unavailable
Failed to parse header.
Failed, exiting.
Resolving stream.polskieradio.pl for AF_INET...
Connecting to server stream.polskieradio.pl[195.245.217.7]: 80...
Cache size set to 320 KBytes
Cache fill:  0.04% (121 bytes)


Exiting... (End of file)

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#13 2007-10-21 04:20:05

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Re: Win32 Codecs

hmm, this stream works under winamp ( windows )
sabotage ?

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#14 2007-10-21 05:21:32

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Re: Win32 Codecs

holytrousers wrote:

hmm, this stream works under winamp ( windows )
sabotage ?

Shit! And grrrr!

Sabotage? maybe. MS has a funny way of intentionally mutating things to their advantage. Emotional insecurity at its best...

Sorry I couldn't help.

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#15 2007-10-21 07:23:37

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Re: Win32 Codecs

skottish wrote:
holytrousers wrote:

hmm, this stream works under winamp ( windows )
sabotage ?

Shit! And grrrr!

Sabotage? maybe. MS has a funny way of intentionally mutating things to their advantage. Emotional insecurity at its best...

Sorry I couldn't help.

Hmm ... maybe it's the divinity of his pants, 'cuz I couldn't get a connection with anything in Linux or Windows. I tried Foobar2000, Quintessential Player, VLC, Windows Media Player, and WinAmp 5.5 Anniversary Edition in Windows.

Last edited by MrWeatherbee (2007-10-21 07:57:48)

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#16 2007-10-21 10:29:23

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Re: Win32 Codecs

Well, my Trousers never lie big_smile
Here is a snapshot of winamp buffering the stream
wmmscu9.th.jpg
And here is the snapshot of winamp playing it :
mms2wt3.th.jpg
Humm, real player plays it too, mediaplayer classic too.
The fact is that i have on windows the klite codecs installled, maybe MrWeatherbee doesnt have the necessary codecs and thats why he cant play them i don't know.

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#17 2007-10-21 10:38:52

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Re: Win32 Codecs

holytrousers wrote:

Well, my Trousers never lie big_smile

Amen. smile

Edit:

Guess I should have also added that I was able to play other streams in Linux and Windows, but just couldn't get

mms://stream.polskieradio.pl/Program

to play no matter what kind of pants I wore.

Here's just one sample of a stream that does play:

mms://wm5.abacast.com/jazztrax

Can you post the 'stream and media' info for the stream if you can obtain it from a player (WinAmp) that plays it? Not sure where to get that in WinAmp as I'm not at a WinAmpified PC right now, but I'm looking for something similar to the info provided by VLC -> Stream and Media Info > Advanced Info Tab.

Thanks.

Last edited by MrWeatherbee (2007-10-21 13:14:10)

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#18 2007-10-21 13:52:03

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Re: Win32 Codecs

God's Holy Trousers !
Folks, i am an idiot !
When Copied The url, i did forget to copy it entirely, as it contains a space at the end of the adress :
mms://stream.polskieradio.pl/Program
and the real url is
mms://stream.polskieradio.pl/Program 3

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#19 2007-10-21 13:53:52

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Re: Win32 Codecs

Sorry terribly sorry smile
Thanx for the efforts !
It is working right now !
Sorry neutral

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#20 2007-10-21 13:55:20

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Re: Win32 Codecs

Humm, so i think that this thread is solved right ?
Are are there any other codecs that are not supported under 64 bits ?

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#21 2007-10-21 14:06:27

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Re: Win32 Codecs

holytrousers wrote:

God's Holy Trousers !
Folks, i am an idiot !
When Copied The url, i did forget to copy it entirely, as it contains a space at the end of the adress :
mms://stream.polskieradio.pl/Program
and the real url is
mms://stream.polskieradio.pl/Program 3

holytrousers wrote:

Sorry terribly sorry smile
Thanx for the efforts !
It is working right now !
Sorry neutral

That's alright. You definitely proved your honesty on this, though ... I bet it was tough making those posts admitting what happened. smile

Anyway, it's working here now, too. I'm listening to, but not understanding, Polish. Every once in a while I here someone say, "democratic", "president", "parliament", and "correspondent".

Have fun.

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#22 2007-10-21 14:15:44

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Re: Win32 Codecs

lol
yeah, polish media usually talk about politics, besides, the elections are near, so ...
but i hear it mainly for the music wink

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#23 2007-10-21 20:59:40

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Re: Win32 Codecs

holytrousers, I'm glad it got it working!

Regarding your question about missing codecs: I have used Arch64 for about 6 months now and I can't recall coming across a media file I couldn't play. You'll find that the win32 codecs are not nearly as much use as they once were. The FFmpeg project has been making excellent progress and has written replacement codecs for a number of the 32 bit binary only codecs provided in the win32codecs packages.

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