Another Ubuntu Convert

esperanto · 2008-07-27 17:51:22

Hello - I've been a Linux user for almost a year... spent six months with Ubuntu, and at that time saw the likes of the buggy Gusty release. I became unsatisified with the project due to the fact that I wasn't getting much better performance than compared to Vista and so I started distro hopping. I tried Debian Sid, which was perhaps too unstable for my taste, Gentoo which overall required way too much effort to run, and then went back to Ubuntu for the release of Hardy... but I knew that there had to be a better overall distro. I kept hearing really positive things about Arch on ubuntuforums.org, so I finally decided to make the switch. So far, I've been amazed - Arch has the bleeding edge packages of Sid, the speed of Gentoo, and the ease of Ubuntu all in one distro. Thanks for building such a great distro, and I hope to be part of this community for a long time.

kensai · 2008-07-27 18:06:54

We are happy to have you in this community as well, may your stay be a pleasant one.

ozar · 2008-07-27 18:09:10

Welcome to the forums!

Hope Arch continues to be a fun and useful experience for you.

11010010110 · 2008-07-27 19:44:10

Wellcome !

wonder · 2008-07-27 19:54:57

welcome to the club

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floke · 2008-07-27 20:07:53

Welcome to Arch.

Barrucadu · 2008-07-27 20:13:07

Welcome to Arch
You can never leave. Never.

skottish · 2008-07-27 20:35:06

Barrucadu wrote:

Welcome to Arch
You can never leave. Never.

Even if there was a choice, esperanto wouldn't leave anyway.

Misfit138 · 2008-07-27 23:43:07

Welcome

esperanto · 2008-07-28 02:22:40

I'm very content on sticking around. Thanks for the warm welcome!

kishd · 2008-07-28 04:49:00

Welcome. Please be aware that ARCH is like the Hotel California.
"You may check out any time you like but you can never leave."

fukawi2 · 2008-07-28 06:12:32

May the force be with you

kalinatek · 2008-07-28 12:56:13

Barrucadu wrote:

Welcome to Arch
You can never leave. Never.

QFT

I have tried probably 20 distributions.

Arch wins. I love pacman. <3

And don't forget the community! Everyone's nice

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cyclotomic · 2008-07-28 15:52:05

esperanto wrote:

I'm very content on sticking around. Thanks for the warm welcome!

Welcome, fellow Buffalonian.

Xiong Chiamiov · 2008-07-31 02:35:45

Welcome. Kubuntu got me started on Linux, but after 6 months it got a bit annoying.

Truth be told, though, I absolutely *hate* using text files for configuration, which Arch does a lot (want to hold a package in pacman? Nope, no pacman command for that; have to use pacman.conf). I haven't yet found anything that suits my likes better than Arch so far, though, so I'm keeping it. Other than that, the only thing I don't like are the pacman options, as they're incredibly cryptic. But major plusses for rolling-releases and the stripped-down-ness.

[don't kill me, please]

esperanto · 2008-08-01 00:38:56

Kubuntu was actually my least favorite flavor of *buntu... very very very bloaty. I've found KDEmod to be a complete 180 degree difference for the better though, so I'm glad because KDE is a nice looking DE.

whaler · 2008-08-01 08:58:33

Xiong Chiamiov wrote:

Welcome. Kubuntu got me started on Linux, but after 6 months it got a bit annoying.
Truth be told, though, I absolutely *hate* using text files for configuration, which Arch does a lot (want to hold a package in pacman? Nope, no pacman command for that; have to use pacman.conf). I haven't yet found anything that suits my likes better than Arch so far, though, so I'm keeping it. Other than that, the only thing I don't like are the pacman options, as they're incredibly cryptic. But major plusses for rolling-releases and the stripped-down-ness.
[don't kill me, please]

I agree. Configuration files are good to have, but they also go against the very idea of automation/ease of use... They will fade away over the next generation, if not sooner

I love Arch. It is the best OS experience I've had, but there are some gotchas. Like you never know what browser you're using - one minute it's Minefield, the next it's Gran Paradiso. Or, when today pacman innocently asked me if I wanted to

:: Replace kde-i18n-nb with extra/kde-l10n-nb? [Y/n] y
:: Replace kde-common with extra/kdebase-workspace? [Y/n] y
:: Replace gwenview with extra/kdegraphics? [Y/n] y
:: Replace arts with extra/kdelibs? [Y/n] y
:: Replace kdeaddons with extra/kdeplasma-addons? [Y/n] y

There I was - trapped in KDE 4...

NOT the way to go, Arch'ers! A one-liner warning would have been in order, mildly put.

KDE 4 is better than I had expected, however. Actually it is very user-friendly, although I miss a few customization options. Guess I will stick with Arch a while longer...

Garns · 2008-08-01 10:39:06

whaler wrote:

:: Replace kde-i18n-nb with extra/kde-l10n-nb? [Y/n] y
:: Replace kde-common with extra/kdebase-workspace? [Y/n] y
:: Replace gwenview with extra/kdegraphics? [Y/n] y
:: Replace arts with extra/kdelibs? [Y/n] y
:: Replace kdeaddons with extra/kdeplasma-addons? [Y/n] y
There I was - trapped in KDE 4...
NOT the way to go, Arch'ers! A one-liner warning would have been in order, mildly put.

I count 5 lines there . Not to mention frontpage news, some ML Discussions and countless forum threads.

I agree. Configuration files are good to have, but they also go against the very idea of automation/ease of use... They will fade away over the next generation, if not sooner

To my knowledge, I don't have any great prophetic qualities, but I highly doubt that. We might see more GUI frontends for configuration and we might see some more changes to "more machine readable" formats *shudder* .

ruscook · 2008-08-01 11:00:00

esperanto wrote:

......So far, I've been amazed - Arch has the bleeding edge packages of Sid, the speed of Gentoo, and the ease of Ubuntu all in one distro. Thanks for building such a great distro, and I hope to be part of this community for a long time.

A great description, and part of the reason I've been on Arch for the past year as well. It works on my old 256MB email machine and on my dual core 2GB machine and with the new gnome is very snappy (although I'm trying out KDE4.1 at the moment on my dual core).

Welcome to the party!

Russ

odf · 2008-08-02 18:08:14

Welcome, I'm also a Ubuntu convert

whaler · 2008-08-25 22:08:37

Garns wrote:

whaler wrote:
:: Replace kde-i18n-nb with extra/kde-l10n-nb? [Y/n] y
:: Replace kde-common with extra/kdebase-workspace? [Y/n] y
:: Replace gwenview with extra/kdegraphics? [Y/n] y
:: Replace arts with extra/kdelibs? [Y/n] y
:: Replace kdeaddons with extra/kdeplasma-addons? [Y/n] y
There I was - trapped in KDE 4...
NOT the way to go, Arch'ers! A one-liner warning would have been in order, mildly put.
I count 5 lines there . Not to mention frontpage news, some ML Discussions and countless forum threads.
I agree. Configuration files are good to have, but they also go against the very idea of automation/ease of use... They will fade away over the next generation, if not sooner
To my knowledge, I don't have any great prophetic qualities, but I highly doubt that. We might see more GUI frontends for configuration and we might see some more changes to "more machine readable" formats *shudder* .

My point is simply that the user should be explicitly alerted/warned when a major upgrade is about to take place. Not a biggie in most cases, but as it happened, I was not ready for KDE 4 and the subsequent tweaking at that time and would have suspended the upgrade if I had known what was to follow. Perhaps most Linux users are expected to live in OS fora, but I am different

As for predicting the future, just look at the Arch philosophy, or any cell phone. Or - look again at how KDE 4 was delivered to us Arch'ers...

venky80 · 2008-08-25 22:23:25

Me too Ubuntu convert but loving Arch for a long time, I still sometimes use Ubuntu though, just to check out.
recently saw number of packages installed in my ubuntu machine and got shocked there were 1300 packages installed to my KDEMOD 4 which has just 477

rooloo · 2008-08-25 22:41:31

I agree. Configuration files are good to have, but they also go against the very idea of automation/ease of use... They will fade away over the next generation, if not sooner

I doubt it, nor do I wish it. Arch would quickly lose it's appeal. You want GUI's then check out the arch base distro's offering frontend GUI's. That is exactly why they where started.

if you can't find ease in typing a few letters into a text file then you have missed the point of the KISS concept.

voteforpedro36 · 2008-08-26 02:07:27

kishd wrote:

Welcome. Please be aware that ARCH is like the Hotel California.
"You may check out any time you like but you can never leave."

I was going to say that.

mrunion · 2008-08-26 13:43:50

Methinks config files will be in use for a long time hence. GUI access to othem or not, is just icing on the cake. But for me, nothing beats a test-based config file!

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