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#1 2008-12-01 04:46:17

myusername
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X update broke system

after updating today i got a broken xorg with an error saying that in my xorg config at line 9 RGBPath is not a known value. i cant post my xorg cause im on windows. i need help! i have a paper for school i need to print

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#2 2008-12-01 04:53:19

BKJ
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Re: X update broke system

Just comment out line nine by putting a # in front of it.

Last edited by BKJ (2008-12-01 04:53:33)

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#3 2008-12-01 04:55:35

myusername
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Re: X update broke system

i did...and i got an error...it was just random colors at the top half of my screen. the bottom half was still console

Edit please i really need help guys

Last edited by myusername (2008-12-01 05:30:47)

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#4 2008-12-01 05:53:52

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Re: X update broke system

You should post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log

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#5 2008-12-01 05:55:24

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Re: X update broke system

i cant. im on a different computer i tried to do what they said in this thread http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=59929 but it didnt work. whos stupid idea was it to update the xorg anyway?

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#6 2008-12-01 06:13:46

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Re: X update broke system

myusername wrote:

i cant. im on a different computer i tried to do what they said in this thread http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=59929 but it didnt work. whos stupid idea was it to update the xorg anyway?

The idea was obviously yours, as you issued the command. And you should maybe subscribe to the RSS feed. Or manually check for announcements.

Do get your system running again do:

tail -n 50 /var/log/pacman.log

Look at which xorg packages have been undated in the recent upgrade. Then, find the previous versions of the packages in /var/cache/pacman/pkg/ and install them manually with

pacman -U <pkgname>

Before you start X, back up your xorg log files from /var/log to show them to us.

Good luck.

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#7 2008-12-01 06:38:39

myusername
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Re: X update broke system

for some reason pacman isnt doing anything. no matter what command it is. it just enters it then goes to a new line as if i'd only pressed enter. any ideas?

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#8 2008-12-01 10:01:22

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Re: X update broke system

Yes. Filter your X log like this:

grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log

Then you'll see what the errors are. Just saying 'it doesn't work' doesn't give us anything to work with wink.


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#9 2008-12-01 10:21:22

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Re: X update broke system

thanks ill try it later and post my results

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#10 2008-12-01 10:44:50

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Re: X update broke system

I had a similar problem after removing xorg.conf file all working ok. Waiting for further posts to see what kinds of problems it may give.

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#11 2008-12-01 11:08:40

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Re: X update broke system

kgas wrote:

I had a similar problem after removing xorg.conf file all working ok. Waiting for further posts to see what kinds of problems it may give.

as far as i know (which is usually not that much), if it worked, you are good to go. keep your old xorg.conf just to be on the safe side.

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#12 2008-12-02 00:27:40

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Re: X update broke system

You can use Ctrl-Alt-F2 to get a virtual console. That way you can at least copy/upload your school files.

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#13 2008-12-02 01:37:34

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Re: X update broke system

I'll just post this here since although my symptoms are somewhat different. I'm totally confused here. I have an Intel Corporation Mobile 945. Here's a short log of what I did:

First I tried removing all sections named "InputDevice" and removed RgbPath in "Files." X didn't work. I get a

(EE) Failed to load module "record" (module does not exist, 0)

Removing the "record" module, I now get a

waiting for X server to shut down error setting MTRR (base = 0xc0000000, size = 0x10000000, type = 1) Invalid argument (22)

Reverted back to my original xorg.conf, and added
   Section "ServerFlags"
     Option "AutoAddDevices" "False"
   EndSection

I now have

(EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed

My current xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/m14c9a3dd
Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/d4055fc0a

Edit: A cleanslate xorg.conf using xorgcfg didn't help much either. I still get the MTRR error.

Edit again: Never mind.. a lowly reboot magically fixed things. Now I just need to get my keyboard working as before.. responses seem extremely slow

Last edited by darehanl (2008-12-02 02:01:17)

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#14 2008-12-02 05:21:35

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Re: X update broke system

I also had the same problem but found a way to get the x-server back.
I backed up my existing xorg.conf and did a restart. Then everything worked fine with NO xorg.conf file.
According to the installation guide , the newer xorg versions have an autodetection feature witch helps x-server to work with no xorg.conf file. I guess this works great with the latest computers.


Update:
I found that my arrow keys and some other Fn keys are not working. smile

Last edited by jayanath (2008-12-02 05:56:12)


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Jayanath

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#15 2008-12-02 06:05:07

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#16 2008-12-03 00:50:06

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Re: X update broke system

I got the arrow keys and special keys work on my Lenovo R61. Im still working on the tapping and scrolling with touch pad.

Few hints to make life easier :

1) If your arrow keys are not working, change the keyboard layout.
System->preferences-> keyboard ->layout
and select Evdev-managed keyboard from keyboard models drop down.

2) If your special keys [Fn+brightness, Fn+lock etc] are not working,
cp /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/10-ibm-buttons.fdi /etc/hal/fdi/policy

Good luck with new xorg !!


Cheers,
Jayanath

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#17 2008-12-03 03:28:24

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Re: X update broke system

lenzenmi wrote:
myusername wrote:

after updating today i got a broken xorg with an error saying that in my xorg config at line 9 RGBPath is not a known value. i cant post my xorg cause im on windows. i need help! i have a paper for school i need to print

I had the exact same problem, and the exact same result when I deleted the line from my xorg.conf file.

I finally got my system back up and running, here was the trick

1) Delete xorg.conf
sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf

2) enable hal (This is the part that had me stumped for a long time.  I never had a use for hal before.  If you don't have it, you can add it to your /etc/rc.conf file)
sudo sh /etc/rc.d/hal start

3) startx

Hope it works for you

Thank God I had links installed on my system! I didn't have a xorg.conf file, but your plan-of-action still worked for me. The key is enabling hal. I did it by adding it to my rc.conf daemon list. One console reboot later, and I can use my keyboard and mouse again!

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#18 2008-12-03 19:26:28

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Re: X update broke system

lenzenmi wrote:
myusername wrote:

after updating today i got a broken xorg with an error saying that in my xorg config at line 9 RGBPath is not a known value. i cant post my xorg cause im on windows. i need help! i have a paper for school i need to print

I had the exact same problem, and the exact same result when I deleted the line from my xorg.conf file.

I finally got my system back up and running, here was the trick

1) Delete xorg.conf
sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf

2) enable hal (This is the part that had me stumped for a long time.  I never had a use for hal before.  If you don't have it, you can add it to your /etc/rc.conf file)
sudo sh /etc/rc.d/hal start

3) startx

Hope it works for you

It didn't work for me.

Perhaps, because I first attempted to reverse the update. After it did not succeed, I reupdated it. So my configuration might be more messy than necessary.

This is my log-file:


X.Org X Server 1.5.3
Release Date: 5 November 2008
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.27-ARCH i686
Current Operating System: Linux ragin 2.6.27-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Nov 28 10:56:24 UTC 2008 i686
Build Date: 09 November 2008  07:16:27PM

        Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
        to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
        (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
        (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Wed Dec  3 20:05:41 2008
(EE) Unable to locate/open config file
(II) Loader magic: 0x81d66e0
(II) Module ABI versions:
        X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
        X.Org Video Driver: 4.1
        X.Org XInput driver : 2.1
        X.Org Server Extension : 1.1
        X.Org Font Renderer : 0.6
(II) Loader running on linux
(--) using VT number 7

(--) PCI:*(0@1:0:0) nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] rev 161, Mem @ 0xde000000/0, 0xd0000000/0, BIOS @ 0x????????/131072
(==) Matched nv for the autoconfigured driver
New driver is "nv"
(==) Using default built-in configuration (30 lines)
(==) --- Start of built-in configuration ---
        Section "Device"
                Identifier      "Builtin Default nv Device 0"
                Driver  "nv"
        EndSection
        Section "Screen"
                Identifier      "Builtin Default nv Screen 0"
                Device  "Builtin Default nv Device 0"
        EndSection
        Section "Device"
                Identifier      "Builtin Default fbdev Device 0"
                Driver  "fbdev"
        EndSection
        Section "Screen"
                Identifier      "Builtin Default fbdev Screen 0"
                Device  "Builtin Default fbdev Device 0"
        EndSection
        Section "Device"
                Identifier      "Builtin Default vesa Device 0"
                Driver  "vesa"
        EndSection
        Section "Screen"
                Identifier      "Builtin Default vesa Screen 0"
                Device  "Builtin Default vesa Device 0"
        EndSection
        Section "ServerLayout"
                Identifier      "Builtin Default Layout"
                Screen  "Builtin Default nv Screen 0"
                Screen  "Builtin Default fbdev Screen 0"
                Screen  "Builtin Default vesa Screen 0"
        EndSection
(==) --- End of built-in configuration ---
(==) ServerLayout "Builtin Default Layout"
(**) |-->Screen "Builtin Default nv Screen 0" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "<default monitor>"
(**) |   |-->Device "Builtin Default nv Device 0"
(==) No monitor specified for screen "Builtin Default nv Screen 0".
        Using a default monitor configuration.
(**) |-->Screen "Builtin Default fbdev Screen 0" (1)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "<default monitor>"
(**) |   |-->Device "Builtin Default fbdev Device 0"
(==) No monitor specified for screen "Builtin Default fbdev Screen 0".
        Using a default monitor configuration.
(**) |-->Screen "Builtin Default vesa Screen 0" (2)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "<default monitor>"
(**) |   |-->Device "Builtin Default vesa Device 0"
(==) No monitor specified for screen "Builtin Default vesa Screen 0".
        Using a default monitor configuration.
(==) Automatically adding devices
(==) Automatically enabling devices
(==) No FontPath specified.  Using compiled-in default.
(==) FontPath set to:
        /usr/share/fonts/misc,
        /usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,
        /usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,
        /usr/share/fonts/TTF,
        /usr/share/fonts/Type1
(==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
(II) Cannot locate a core pointer device.
(II) Cannot locate a core keyboard device.
(II) The server relies on HAL to provide the list of input devices.
        If no devices become available, reconfigure HAL or disable AllowEmptyInput.
(WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory)
(II) No APM support in BIOS or kernel
(II) System resource ranges:
        [0] -1  0       0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[b]
        [1] -1  0       0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[b]
        [2] -1  0       0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[b]
        [3] -1  0       0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[b]
        [4] -1  0       0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[b]
        [5] -1  0       0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[b]
(II) LoadModule: "extmod"

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libextmod.so
(II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
        compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 1.0.0
        Module class: X.Org Server Extension
        ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 1.1
(II) Loading extension SHAPE
(II) Loading extension MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD
(II) Loading extension BIG-REQUESTS
(II) Loading extension SYNC
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(II) Loading extension XC-MISC
(II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
(II) Loading extension XFree86-Misc
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA
(II) Loading extension DPMS
(II) Loading extension TOG-CUP
(II) Loading extension Extended-Visual-Information
(II) Loading extension XVideo
(II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
(II) Loading extension X-Resource
(II) LoadModule: "dbe"

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdbe.so
(II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
        compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 1.0.0
        Module class: X.Org Server Extension
        ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 1.1
(II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
(II) LoadModule: "glx"

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so
(II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
        compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 1.0.0
        ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 1.1
(==) AIGLX enabled
(==) Exporting typical set of GLX visuals
(II) Loading extension GLX
(II) LoadModule: "freetype"

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/fonts//libfreetype.so
(II) Module freetype: vendor="X.Org Foundation & the After X-TT Project"
        compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 2.1.0
        Module class: X.Org Font Renderer
        ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.6
(II) Loading font FreeType
(II) LoadModule: "dri"

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri.so
(II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
        compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 1.0.0
        ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 1.1
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI
(II) LoadModule: "nv"

(WW) Warning, couldn't open module nv
(II) UnloadModule: "nv"
(EE) Failed to load module "nv" (module does not exist, 0)
(II) LoadModule: "fbdev"

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//fbdev_drv.so
(II) Module fbdev: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
        compiled for 1.4.99.906, module version = 0.4.0
        ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 4.1
(II) LoadModule: "vesa"

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//vesa_drv.so
(II) Module vesa: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
        compiled for 1.4.99.906, module version = 1.3.0
        Module class: X.Org Video Driver
        ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 4.1
(II) FBDEV: driver for framebuffer: fbdev
(II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa
(II) Primary Device is: PCI 01@00:00:0
(II) Loading sub module "fbdevhw"
(II) LoadModule: "fbdevhw"

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/linux//libfbdevhw.so
(II) Module fbdevhw: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
        compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 0.0.2
        ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 4.1
(EE) open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory
(WW) Falling back to old probe method for fbdev
(WW) Falling back to old probe method for vesa
(II) resource ranges after probing:
        [0] -1  0       0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[b]
        [1] -1  0       0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[b]
        [2] -1  0       0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[b]
        [3] -1  0       0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[b]
        [4] -1  0       0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[b]
        [5] -1  0       0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[b]
(II) UnloadModule: "fbdev"
(II) UnloadModule: "fbdevhw"
(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.

Fatal server error:
no screens found

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#19 2008-12-04 00:53:40

Hy Ginsberg
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Re: X update broke system

Hi all -- I also have found X completely not working after an update.  I will try some of the suggestions already mentioned, but I first wanted to report something interesting in my log (/var/log/Xorg.0.log -- hand copied as I am on a neighboring computer):

(WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd' or 'mouse' will be disabled.
(WW) Disabling Mouse0
(WW) Disabling Keyboard0

And indeed I have no mouse or keyboard (which, by the way, is very inconvenient... -- I end up having to hold down the power switch to reboot).

Thanks for any thoughts.

- Hy

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#20 2008-12-04 01:00:41

Hy Ginsberg
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Re: X update broke system

Ahh, answered my own problem.  So that's what "input hotplugging" is...  (see http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xor … tplugging).

- Hy

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#21 2008-12-04 01:26:10

colbert
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Re: X update broke system

I've been without the net at home for about a week and see a huge upgrade in pacman now, but damn I'm scared to do it sad

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#22 2008-12-04 13:55:29

Slurp
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Re: X update broke system

I would wait some weeks...


Stop the world, I get off...

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#23 2008-12-04 15:22:30

jayanath
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Registered: 2008-08-16
Posts: 30

Re: X update broke system

Colbert,
The new xorg 7.4 gave a hard time to many of us. The forums were flooded smile. However the initial chaos seems to be over now.
your update count might be larger but I think the number of packages will further increase with time. Hence if I have some time to deal with tweaking the stuff, I would go ahead with the update.

The good thing with pacman is , you can always rollback your package upgrades.
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=58309.

Good luck !!


Cheers,
Jayanath

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#24 2008-12-09 17:57:11

publius
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Re: X update broke system

Same Problem: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … 45#p461245

Please help. I tried restoring old xorg files from cache. No cigar.

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#25 2008-12-26 00:14:33

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Re: X update broke system

I updated my desktop then rolled back. I've tried following all the instructions I can find but each time something fails. This new hotplugging stuff sounds so good and sounds like it should just work but everyone seems to be having so many problems. Seems like it isn't worth it to me, especially on my desktop.

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