Tiling WMs

SLKDK · 2009-02-15 20:45:19

Hi all.

I wanna try something new.
I have tried Xmonad, dwm and awesome (Just really quickly (~5-10 min each)).

I like the way a tiling WM work and would really like to use a tiling WM.

But wich should I go for and stick with? I don't wanna learn programming language just to config it, so I guess Xmonad is gone?
dwm + dmenu works great I think, awesome looks a bit nicer though, but with the little time spend on the WMs I guess I like dwm the most.

Any good advice for a tiling-WM-newcomer? Any good links that could help me become better to tiling WMs?

Best regards

deadlylife · 2009-02-15 20:47:49

I like Awesome, use it for about an hour before you start configure.

SamC · 2009-02-15 20:50:21

Let's see, both awesome and xmonad are out for you, even though you don't actually need to learn any programming. DWM is configured in C, but, again, you don't need to know C to actually use it. Stumpwm is lisp, but it's predecessor, ratpoison, has a pretty simple config file. There are some DWM forks that use things like .XDefaults to hold the configuration options, but I don't know much about them. Also, read this.

Ashren · 2009-02-15 20:53:51

You do not need to learn Haskell to configure XMonad and the documentation is really great - just takes a while to get used to. Look here: http://www.xmonad.org/xmonad-docs/

Dwm is really simple to configure, but you need to edit the header file (config.h) and recompile. The compilation part takes two seconds.

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dwm … ll_package

I usually just have a build dir in my ~ and copy the dwm executable to a dir in my PATH.

So stick with dwm if it fits your needs.

scj · 2009-02-15 20:59:34

Try them all out for a little longer than 10 minutes and you will find out for yourself which one you want to stick with.

moljac024 · 2009-02-15 21:02:51

Ashren wrote:

Dwm is really simple to configure, but you need to edit the header file (config.h) and recompile. The compilation part takes two seconds.

2 seconds ???
That's way too long...

Ashren · 2009-02-15 21:08:20

moljac024 wrote:

Ashren wrote:
Dwm is really simple to configure, but you need to edit the header file (config.h) and recompile. The compilation part takes two seconds.
2 seconds ???
That's way too long...

Figuratively speaking.

 [edgar@archedgar dwm]$ time make
dwm build options:
CFLAGS   = -std=c99 -pedantic -Wall -Os -I. -I/usr/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DVERSION="5.0" -DXINERAMA
LDFLAGS  = -s -L/usr/lib -lc -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lXinerama
CC       = cc

real    0m0.049s
user    0m0.040s
sys    0m0.010s

Satisfied?! Huh! HUH!?

Last edited by Ashren (2009-02-15 21:09:56)

moljac024 · 2009-02-15 21:22:09

Meh, while not as bad as 2 seconds, this isn't all that great either...

Last edited by moljac024 (2009-02-15 21:22:37)

SLKDK · 2009-02-15 21:26:48

Im trying out Awesome again, but Im having a hard time just to find a config file sample to work out from??

BabyDoc · 2009-02-15 21:41:48

SLKDK wrote:

Im trying out Awesome again, but Im having a hard time just to find a config file sample to work out from??

Found this page in the awesome wiki: click
Gigamo here on the forums used to have some nice configs to, I assume it still is that way.

For myself I find dwm to be much easier to configure then awesome. If you really don't want to learn a programming language it's best to stick to dwm imo.

Last edited by BabyDoc (2009-02-15 21:44:37)

initbox · 2009-02-15 21:55:52

Ratpoisoooooooon.

It doesn't annoy you by trying to automatically tile. It is really easy to configure, and basically, you don't really even have to.

Plus, it lets you get rid of the rat, of course.

thayer · 2009-02-16 01:07:13

initbox wrote:

Ratpoisoooooooon.
It doesn't annoy you by trying to automatically tile. It is really easy to configure, and basically, you don't really even have to.
Plus, it lets you get rid of the rat, of course.

The same could be said for dwm and I'm sure a number of other tilers.

yvonney · 2009-02-16 02:55:00

yep, 2 seconds. Changed my entire computing life. dwm new version 5.4.1
when going to new version remember to do abs update.
see wiki. 'dwm' step by step. perfect for me.

anrxc · 2009-02-16 02:58:50

SLKDK wrote:

Im trying out Awesome again, but Im having a hard time just to find a config file sample to work out from??

You got a sample configuration file with your package. But it would be best if you start with man pacman, again.

Ghost1227 · 2009-02-16 03:05:35

If you're using the version of Awesome in community, feel free to borrow my configs

Berticus · 2009-02-16 07:56:04

You don't really need to learn Haskell unless you plan to make your own extensions, just like any other window manager, I suppose. All you need to do is read the extension and configuration libraries. You can use example configuration files to see how to use the libraries, if you have issues deciphering it.

adamlau · 2009-02-16 08:55:26

Once it becomes a bit more robust, scrotwm will be on all of my boxes.

joephantom · 2009-02-17 04:38:54

adamlau wrote:

Once it becomes a bit more robust, scrotwm will be on all of my boxes.

scrotwm is cool .

OpenBSD · 2009-02-17 12:04:50

joephantom wrote:

adamlau wrote:
Once it becomes a bit more robust, scrotwm will be on all of my boxes.
scrotwm is cool .

Yep, I switched to scrotwm.
SVN version has wmname build in (java apps run w/o hack on jre 1.7) and allow to change modkey, stacking works as well.

Good stuff.
Oh, the way it handles dual displays is brilliant.

Vintendo · 2009-02-17 12:26:49

Does it handle them the same way as xmonad?

tjwoosta · 2009-02-17 14:21:03

SLKDK wrote:
Im trying out Awesome again, but Im having a hard time just to find a config file sample to work out from??

if your going to try to use awesome you will definatly want to read the wiki (or at least skim through the important stuff)

http://awesome.naquadah.org/

the awesome config file /etc/xdg/awesome/rc.lua

the default awesome theme file /usr/share/awesome/default/theme

example configs submitted by users for you to examine and learn from http://awesome.naquadah.org/wiki/index. … tion_Files

bgc1954 · 2009-02-17 16:43:48

If you ever get tired of compiling dwm every time you want to change something, you could try wmii--dwm's big brother. It has a wmiirc file which lets you reconfigure things your own way and after using for awhile now I prefer it to dwm. Try it if you like. More info here: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wmii

SLKDK · 2009-02-17 17:48:49

Hi all again.

Still stuck on Awesome I really like it, I think..

I have seen some screenshots with Awesome with a small sysinfo-bar at the bottom (proberly conky?), but how to have margins so the windows don't overlap conky, at the bottom?

Any link to tutorial on how to conky in awesome?

Best regards.

Inxsible · 2009-02-17 19:02:33

I have never used a tiling WM....but I am planning to install it and access it on tty3.

Can someone tell me what scrotwm can do that the others cannot?

Gigamo · 2009-02-17 19:24:20

SLKDK wrote:

Hi all again.
Still stuck on Awesome I really like it, I think..
I have seen some screenshots with Awesome with a small sysinfo-bar at the bottom (proberly conky?), but how to have margins so the windows don't overlap conky, at the bottom?
Any link to tutorial on how to conky in awesome?
Best regards.

That's just another wibox (statusbar). You don't need conky to feed information to it.

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