Weird Xorg problem

ux&lx · 2009-02-18 16:07:51

Since I moved Arch installation to my new laptop, I'm experiencing some strange problems with my X. Everything works fine after system boot, but once I logout from desktop or kill X with Ctrl+Alt+Del gdm doesn't start anymore and I get Xorg error report with no errors!!

Inxsible · 2009-02-18 16:09:41

did you play around with the inittab file anytime? Make sure you have a respawn of the gdm in it.

skottish · 2009-02-18 16:14:45

Are you using the intel driver by any chance?

ux&lx · 2009-02-18 16:32:12

No i didn't touch the inittab file. Sorry i didn't even say what graphic card i have. It's Nvidia Quadro NVS 140M and i'm using the latest nvidia driver in arch repository.

ux&lx · 2009-02-18 22:03:06

I've checked inittab and i have respawn of gdm in it...

Ranguvar · 2009-02-18 22:06:15

Post xorg.conf please.

Do you have the nv driver installed, even if you're not using it? I once had something similar.

Last edited by Ranguvar (2009-02-18 22:10:29)

ux&lx · 2009-02-18 22:36:46

No I don't. Heres the xorg.conf

# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
# nvidia-xconfig:  version 1.0  (buildmeister@builder63)  Tue Jan  6 10:03:02 PST 2009

# nvidia-settings: X configuration file generated by nvidia-settings
# nvidia-settings:  version 1.0  (buildmeister@builder63)  Tue Jan  6 10:03:55 PST 2009
# Auto-generated by Archie mkxcfg
# Auto-generated by Archie mkxcfg

Section "ServerLayout"

# PS/2 Mouse not detected
# Serial Mouse not detected
    Identifier     "Xorg Configured"
    Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
    InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
    InputDevice    "USB Mouse" "CorePointer"
EndSection

Section "Files"

# Additional fonts: Locale, Gimp, TTF...
#    FontPath     "/usr/share/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/75dpi"
#    FontPath     "/usr/share/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/100dpi"
# True type and type1 fonts are also handled via xftlib, see /etc/X11/XftConfig!
    ModulePath      "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/PEX"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/cyrillic"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/western"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/decoratives"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/truetype"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/openoffice"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/latex-ttf-fonts"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/defoma/CID"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/defoma/TrueType"
EndSection

Section "Module"
    Load           "ddc"  # ddc probing of monitor
    Load           "dbe"
    Load           "extmod"
    Load           "glx"
    Load           "bitmap" # bitmap-fonts
    Load           "freetype"
    Load           "record"
    #   Load  "synaptics"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"

    #Option         "Xinerama" "0"
    Option         "AllowMouseOpenFail" "true"
    #Option         "AutoAddDevices" "False"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier     "Keyboard0"
    Driver         "keyboard"
    Option         "CoreKeyboard"
    Option         "XkbRules" "xorg"
    Option         "XkbModel" "pc105"
    Option         "XkbLayout" "croat"
    Option         "XkbVariant" ""
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier     "Serial Mouse"
    Driver         "mouse"
    Option         "Protocol" "Microsoft"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/ttyS0"
    Option         "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
    Option         "Emulate3Timeout" "70"
    Option         "SendCoreEvents" "true"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier     "PS/2 Mouse"
    Driver         "mouse"
    Option         "Protocol" "auto"
    Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/psaux"
    Option         "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
    Option         "Emulate3Timeout" "70"
    Option         "SendCoreEvents" "true"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier     "USB Mouse"
    Driver         "mouse"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
    Option         "SendCoreEvents" "true"
    Option         "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
    Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
    Option         "Buttons" "5"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"

 # Warning: This may fry old Monitors
 # Very conservative. May flicker.
#    VertRefresh  50.0 - 62.0 # Extreme conservative. Will flicker. TFT default.
    #  Default modes distilled from
    #      "VESA and Industry Standards and Guide for Computer Display Monitor
    #       Timing", version 1.0, revision 0.8, adopted September 17, 1998.
    #  $XFree86: xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/etc/vesamodes,v 1.4 1999/11/18 16:52:17 tsi Exp $
    # 640x350 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 37.9kHz
    Identifier     "Monitor0"
    VendorName     "Unknown"
    ModelName      "IBM"
    HorizSync       53.2 - 63.9
    VertRefresh     50.0 - 60.0
    ModeLine       "640x350" 31.5 640 672 736 832 350 382 385 445 +hsync -vsync
    ModeLine       "640x400" 31.5 640 672 736 832 400 401 404 445 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "720x400" 35.5 720 756 828 936 400 401 404 446 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "640x480" 25.2 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync
    ModeLine       "640x480" 31.5 640 664 704 832 480 489 491 520 -hsync -vsync
    ModeLine       "640x480" 31.5 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -hsync -vsync
    ModeLine       "640x480" 36.0 640 696 752 832 480 481 484 509 -hsync -vsync
    ModeLine       "800x600" 36.0 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "800x600" 40.0 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "800x600" 50.0 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "800x600" 49.5 800 816 896 1056 600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "800x600" 56.3 800 832 896 1048 600 601 604 631 +hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "1024x768" 44.9 1024 1032 1208 1264 768 768 776 817 +hsync +vsync interlace
    ModeLine       "1024x768" 65.0 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync
    ModeLine       "1024x768" 75.0 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync
    ModeLine       "1024x768" 78.8 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "1024x768" 94.5 1024 1072 1168 1376 768 769 772 808 +hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "1152x864" 108.0 1152 1216 1344 1600 864 865 868 900 +hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "1280x960" 108.0 1280 1376 1488 1800 960 961 964 1000 +hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "1280x960" 148.5 1280 1344 1504 1728 960 961 964 1011 +hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "1280x1024" 108.0 1280 1328 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "1280x1024" 135.0 1280 1296 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "1280x1024" 157.5 1280 1344 1504 1728 1024 1025 1028 1072 +hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "1600x1200" 162.0 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "1600x1200" 175.5 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "1600x1200" 189.0 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "1600x1200" 202.5 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "1600x1200" 229.5 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "1792x1344" 204.8 1792 1920 2120 2448 1344 1345 1348 1394 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "1792x1344" 261.0 1792 1888 2104 2456 1344 1345 1348 1417 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "1856x1392" 218.3 1856 1952 2176 2528 1392 1393 1396 1439 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "1856x1392" 288.0 1856 1984 2208 2560 1392 1393 1396 1500 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "1920x1440" 234.0 1920 2048 2256 2600 1440 1441 1444 1500 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "1920x1440" 297.0 1920 2064 2288 2640 1440 1441 1444 1500 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "1800x1440" 230 1800 1896 2088 2392 1440 1441 1444 1490 +hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "1800x1440" 250 1800 1896 2088 2392 1440 1441 1444 1490 +hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "640x480" 43.16 640 680 744 848 480 481 484 509 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "768x576" 34.96 768 792 872 976 576 577 580 597 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "768x576" 42.93 768 800 880 992 576 577 580 601 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "768x576" 45.51 768 808 888 1008 576 577 580 602 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "768x576" 51.84 768 808 888 1008 576 577 580 605 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "768x576" 62.57 768 816 896 1024 576 577 580 611 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "800x600" 68.18 800 848 936 1072 600 601 604 636 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "1024x768" 113.31 1024 1096 1208 1392 768 769 772 814 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "1152x864" 81.62 1152 1216 1336 1520 864 865 868 895 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "1152x864" 119.65 1152 1224 1352 1552 864 865 868 907 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "1152x864" 143.47 1152 1232 1360 1568 864 865 868 915 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "1280x960" 124.54 1280 1368 1504 1728 960 961 964 1001 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "1280x960" 129.86 1280 1368 1504 1728 960 961 964 1002 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "1280x960" 178.99 1280 1376 1520 1760 960 961 964 1017 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "1280x1024" 190.96 1280 1376 1520 1760 1024 1025 1028 1085 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "1400x1050" 122.61 1400 1488 1640 1880 1050 1051 1054 1087 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "1400x1050" 149.34 1400 1496 1648 1896 1050 1051 1054 1094 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "1400x1050" 155.85 1400 1496 1648 1896 1050 1051 1054 1096 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "1400x1050" 179.26 1400 1504 1656 1912 1050 1051 1054 1103 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "1400x1050" 214.39 1400 1512 1664 1928 1050 1051 1054 1112 -hsync +vsync
    ModeLine       "1600x1200" 280.64 1600 1728 1904 2208 1200 1201 1204 1271 -hsync +vsync
    Option         "DPMS" "true"
#    HorizSync    28.0 - 78.0 # Warning: This may fry very old Monitors
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Card0"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    VendorName     "All"
    BoardName      "All"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Device0"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
    BoardName      "Quadro NVS 140M"
    Option            "NoLogo" "True"

EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier     "Screen0"
    Device         "Device0"
    Monitor        "Monitor0"
    DefaultDepth    24
    Option         "TwinView" "0"
    Option         "metamodes" "1680x1050 +0+0; nvidia-auto-select +0+0"
    Option         "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       24
    EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
    Option         "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection

ux&lx · 2009-02-23 18:21:52

I still didn't manage to solve this problem. Does anyone have an idea on what should I try. X is behaving oddly on this card with the nvidia driver. When I resume from suspend I can't get picture on the monitor as well. I've configured the hibernate script to unload nvidia module but the problem persists....
With this I still have the annoying problem with log off or shutdown of X server...
It is making my OS unusable in some situations. I can't log off from window manager, but instead have to reboot the computer...

Last edited by ux&lx (2009-02-23 20:59:36)

el_ave · 2009-03-02 08:27:15

Exact same problem here. I have a thinkpad t61 with the same video card NVS 140M.
I think I've had this problem since I switched to x64 in mid December last year. I'm rather inclined to think it just coincided with some nvidia driver release then to think this is x64 specific issue but I wonder what does ux&lx run?

ux&lx · 2009-03-02 13:52:08

When I started the topic I used an i686 installation from my old laptop and had that problem. I recently installed 64 bit version and the problem is still present. So el-ave the problem is not in the x86_64 it is probably in the driver.

Nezmer · 2009-03-02 16:59:05

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Card0"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    VendorName     "All"
    BoardName      "All"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Device0"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
    BoardName      "Quadro NVS 140M"
    Option            "NoLogo" "True"

EndSection

Is It normal to have 2 entries for the NVIDIA device .
I can see you have input hotplugging enabled . Why don't you try a minimal xorg.conf :

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Device0"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
    BoardName      "Quadro NVS 140M"
    Option            "NoLogo" "True"

EndSection

ux&lx · 2009-03-02 19:57:11

Yeah, that was a mistake made by copying some content from a different file but I removed the first entry ages ago and the problem persists. I even tryed with Option "AutoAddDevices" "False", but in this case my keyboard and mouse don't work...

Inxsible · 2009-03-02 20:07:32

nvidia has a good config utility called nvidia-xconfig. From the VC do

nvidia-xconfig

using the root. It goes without saying that you should backup your current xorg.conf before doing this, although the utility does back it up for you, you might want to name it so that you remember.

It will generate a new xorg.conf. I have always found that a xorg generated by nvidia-xcofig works better than one by hwd -a or Xorg -- configure if you have an nvidia card

Last edited by Inxsible (2009-03-02 20:08:03)

Nezmer · 2009-03-02 20:13:26

My suggestion was to try xorg.conf with this section only .

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Device0"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
    BoardName      "Quadro NVS 140M"
    Option            "NoLogo" "True"

EndSection

Maybe you should double check that you have nvidia-utils installed too .

Last edited by Nezmer (2009-03-02 20:13:47)

ux&lx · 2009-03-02 21:02:13

I tried both approaches, but they don't solve the problem. The xorg.conf from earlier was generated using nvidia-xconfig but was modified with some things later on. I tried the pure file generaed by it and the problem was still present.

Inxsible · 2009-03-02 21:19:37

ux&lx wrote:

I tried both approaches, but they don't solve the problem. The xorg.conf from earlier was generated using nvidia-xconfig but was modified with some things later on. I tried the pure file generaed by it and the problem was still present.

And you have followed the wiki for the HAL and PolicyKit issues correct?

Teshadael · 2009-03-02 21:49:28

I'm having the same problem as the OP. I do not use a login manager, though. When I boot up, I type startx and it runs fine. But if I Ctrl+Alt+Backspace back to the console then try startx again without a reboot, I just get a blank screen.
I also have a different video card from the OP, an integrated ATI 3100 for which I am using Catalyst.

Inxsible · 2009-03-02 21:52:32

Teshadael wrote:

I'm having the same problem as the OP. I do not use a login manager, though. When I boot up, I type startx and it runs fine. But if I Ctrl+Alt+Backspace back to the console then try startx again without a reboot, I just get a blank screen.
I also have a different video card from the OP, an integrated ATI 3100 for which I am using Catalyst.

The latest Xorg 1.6 release has now disabled the Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to kill X. You can re-enable it of course by an option in the Xorg.conf. I dont rbr the option right now. At work on a windows machine

Search the forums, there are threads on it.

Last edited by Inxsible (2009-03-02 21:53:00)

Teshadael · 2009-03-02 23:50:52

Inxsible wrote:

Teshadael wrote:
I'm having the same problem as the OP. I do not use a login manager, though. When I boot up, I type startx and it runs fine. But if I Ctrl+Alt+Backspace back to the console then try startx again without a reboot, I just get a blank screen.
I also have a different video card from the OP, an integrated ATI 3100 for which I am using Catalyst.
The latest Xorg 1.6 release has now disabled the Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to kill X. You can re-enable it of course by an option in the Xorg.conf. I dont rbr the option right now. At work on a windows machine
Search the forums, there are threads on it.

Well I'm still on 1.5, but that's not the issue anyway...I can get out of X ok, it's getting back into it without a reboot.

Ranguvar · 2009-03-03 00:57:59

Try with the xf86-video-nv driver, and try with an xorg.conf generated by hwd -xa (try modifying that config too, and try the nv driver with tweaked nvidia-xconfig and with tweaked hwd... also try with Xorg -configure).

ux&lx · 2009-03-24 21:29:51

I've tryed everything and this problem is still present. The only thing I didn't try is to disable X hotpluging. How can I do this? I've read some post that this could be the problem with intel wireless firware or thinkpad-acpi module. I anyone familiar with this maybe?

ux&lx · 2009-03-25 19:37:21

I've installed Zenwalk to test if the problem will occur on it and it didn't. Truth is that X takes longer than usual to respawn but it works. Then I used xorg.conf from Zenwalk on Arch to see what will happen and unfortunately nothing changed. Seems like the problem is not in the configuration file. There seems to be no solution for this

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