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#1 2009-03-15 23:11:22

geckoguykc
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Just installed, performance issue

I just installed Arch on my laptop to try and get some experience with a more DIY type distro, and I'm having performance issues. Compiling my wireless driver from source took over an hour, and it only took about 10 minutes in ubuntu. I noticed that there was very little activity shown on the HD indicator LED. In ubuntu the LED would be lit up constantly when compiling anything. I think it might have something to do with my HD. I saw that having conflicting host names in the configuration files could be an issue so I checked that, but they were the same. I'm really new to this type of distro, so I'm probably missing something really obvious.

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#2 2009-03-16 05:51:50

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Re: Just installed, performance issue

What kind of wireless driver are you using? did you not have an alternative available in the repositories or the AUR?


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#3 2009-03-16 12:41:10

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Re: Just installed, performance issue

To be honest I made the stupid assumption that it was not pre-installed, which it was. tongue

A problem that has become pronounced lately is that pacman hangs when "retrieving packages from core" if I hit Ctrl+C and then run the command again it doesn't hang there. I have to do this everytime I use pacman. Does anyone know how I could fix this?

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#4 2009-03-16 12:59:29

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Re: Just installed, performance issue

Some specific info about your system might be useful here.  I'm still not experienced enough to tell you where to start looking, but some of the basic info would be found by running commands like lspci, lsmod, and such, and it would also help to have files like /etc/rc.conf available.

Anyone with more experience have a particular config you'd suggest we should look at first?

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#5 2009-03-16 15:02:59

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Re: Just installed, performance issue

Perhaps your hostname set wrong?

Check your /etc/rc.conf, the hostname should be set to something you want.  Then check /etc/hosts -- there should be a line in the following format (whitespace doesn't matter):

localhost.localdomain     YOURHOSTNAMEHERE.YOURDOMAINNAMEHEREORSOMERANDOMGARBAGE     localhost     YOURHOSTNAMEHERE

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#6 2009-03-16 15:29:55

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Re: Just installed, performance issue

geckoguykc wrote:

To be honest I made the stupid assumption that it was not pre-installed, which it was. tongue

A problem that has become pronounced lately is that pacman hangs when "retrieving packages from core" if I hit Ctrl+C and then run the command again it doesn't hang there. I have to do this everytime I use pacman. Does anyone know how I could fix this?

What do you mean it hangs? do you get any errors by pacman, or does it just sit there? If the latter, after you run pacman the first time and it hangs open another terminal and run

dmesg | tail

to see if there are any errors. You can also check the /var/logs.


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#7 2009-03-16 15:35:34

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Re: Just installed, performance issue

Oh maybe my etc/hosts is wrong. I was looking on the arch wiki and set it up in the format suggested there.

localhost.localdomain                 localhost         hostname
                                          ^
      I didn't know I was supposed to put anything here.

I'll have to try setting it up that way when I get home.

would my local domain just be the broadcast IP?

No there are no errors, it just sits there saying "retrieving packages from core/extras" and then I interrupt it and start it over and it works fine. I'm hoping that the /etc/hosts change will resolve things.

Also my GNOME crashes when I try to install a new icon theme package. I drag and drop the package onto the appearance window and it crashes. I know this is a valid theme file as I've used it successfully on other distros. I'm worried it could be instability caused by the 2.6.28 kernel, as that is what killed my ubuntu install. Also the reason I started using arch. I need to use that kernel to resolve the ACPI problems my laptop was having with previous kernels.

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#8 2009-03-16 19:08:19

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Re: Just installed, performance issue

Another problem I've noticed(probably something that could be fixed with some configuration..) is that nautilus opens a new window everytime I click on a folder. I don't know how to disable this.

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#9 2009-03-16 19:12:06

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Re: Just installed, performance issue

I think I'll just post a new topic about the gnome problems in the "desktop environments" section.

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#10 2009-03-16 19:30:44

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Re: Just installed, performance issue

geckoguykc wrote:

Another problem I've noticed(probably something that could be fixed with some configuration..) is that nautilus opens a new window everytime I click on a folder. I don't know how to disable this.

In the preferences you have to select open in browser mode....or something to that effect. I haven't used Gnome in years.


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#11 2009-03-16 23:01:02

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Re: Just installed, performance issue

After some playing with the /etc/hosts things seem to have been fixed.

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#12 2009-03-16 23:29:13

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Re: Just installed, performance issue

Never mind, it has cropped back up again. I'm not really sure I configured /etc/hosts right. exactly what should I put for "localhost.localdomain"?

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#13 2009-03-16 23:32:28

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Re: Just installed, performance issue

Post your /etc/hosts file so we can see


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#14 2009-03-16 23:48:54

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Re: Just installed, performance issue

My hard drive performance is still terrible. When installing anything or copying files, the indicator just lights up every second or so instead of just staying lit.

Here's my /etc/hosts
"127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain     localhost lappy486"

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#15 2009-03-17 06:59:38

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Re: Just installed, performance issue

I'm starting to think that /etc/hosts is seriously the root of all of this. As I get deeper and deeper into my install, things are becomming noticeably slower than other distros. This is supposed to be a telltale sign of improper hotname configuration isn't it?

In rc.conf my hostname is "lappy486" and I want to make an /etc/hosts file that matches it. how do I do this. I have no domain name. I am on a wireless network with dhcp, so no static IP.....how should I make this /etc/hosts work? I desperately want to speed up this system.

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#16 2009-03-17 08:04:37

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Re: Just installed, performance issue

In /etc/hosts correct your entry and make a try

#<ip-address>    <hostname.domain.org>    <hostname>
127.0.0.1              lappy486.localdomain    lappy486

assuming you named the host as lappy486. Ensue the same host name is also in /etc/rc.conf

hope this will solve your hosts issue. :-)

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#17 2009-03-17 11:21:42

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Re: Just installed, performance issue

@geckoguykc, kgas: Those both are incorrect, I'm 90% sure smile Check my post. I'm almost positive that's the right way.

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#18 2009-03-17 12:17:25

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Re: Just installed, performance issue

/etc/hosts

127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain   localhost phantom

/etc/rc.conf in NETWORKING section

HOSTNAME="phantom"

Works fine for me, no slowdowns here.

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#19 2009-03-17 17:13:53

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Re: Just installed, performance issue

Is this right?

localhost.localdomain  lappy486.localdomain localhost lappy486

Am I supposed to put 127.0.0.1 at the beginning?

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#20 2009-03-17 18:22:37

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Re: Just installed, performance issue

Based on the way I have mine, yours should be fine like:

127.0.0.1 lappy486.lappyland localhost.localdomain localhost lappy486

Last edited by Statix (2009-03-17 18:24:54)


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#21 2009-03-17 18:26:22

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Re: Just installed, performance issue

If this doesn't fix it I may just have to reinstall, maybe using the 64 bit cd. I wanted something light and fast, and now it's running very sluggish....

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#22 2009-03-17 18:36:55

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Re: Just installed, performance issue

That seemed to speed it up a little, but  gnome is still slow. Maybe that's just gnome bloating....I'll see how xfce works out. Though the system has sped up, pacman still hangs at "retrieving pagackes" and I have to restart it. This must be some other issue

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#23 2009-03-17 18:52:30

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Re: Just installed, performance issue

Mr.Ranguvar, when I installed arch first time I followed many guides. (raiden/Arch wiki/my-guide) + this video http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid … 0565640601. Since I followed this video and set the config files I keep them as it is till date :-) without any change :-). These settings still works for me. I know what is given in the wiki but left as it is.

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#24 2009-03-17 19:45:16

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Re: Just installed, performance issue

When things seem slow, have you checked the output from dmesg? Weird HD issues tend to dump messages here, if it's a hardware or driver issue anyways.

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#25 2009-03-17 19:59:53

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Re: Just installed, performance issue

My whole Install has become cluttered and xfce doesn't work any better. I'm going to reinstall with x86_64, and base my whole install on xfce and compiz. I'll see what happens.

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