Remote desktop [Solved]

Mur · 2009-03-23 03:30:01

I have three computers, one is arch and the other two are windows. I want to use a remote client to be able to connect to any computer though the internet. I currently have tightVNC setup but i was looking up NX ( http://www.nomachine.com ) and people were talking that the performance and security is greater than TightVNC. I am just wondering if anyone could give any suggestions on a program that could run in both environments, fast and has a user interface or any well explained arguments for or against a certain program.

thanks

Last edited by Mur (2009-03-24 17:55:51)

delacruz · 2009-03-23 03:32:54

use x11vnc just tunnel the data using ssh

Mur · 2009-03-23 03:54:35

Which is exactly what i have, i am trying to find if there are any other solutions that would work better.
(tightVNC uses x11VNC)

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smartboyathome · 2009-03-23 04:11:05

You could try (Free)NX.

Mur · 2009-03-23 04:18:26

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison … p_software
says its not compatible with windows

fukawi2 · 2009-03-23 04:24:04

FreeNX in my experience is certainly faster than VNC.

I'm not aware of anything other than VNC however that is cross-platform, sorry

sand_man · 2009-03-23 04:39:42

FreeNX is a brilliant application. IMO there is none better in remote desktop software.

rine · 2009-03-23 07:06:49

Can you really use FreeNX as you would Windows remote desktop? I just tried it recently and all it gave me wasa X Server and the possibility to open X apps. Basically the same as just cygwin with X Server. I couldn't figure out how to really see my desktop.

sand_man · 2009-03-23 08:40:35

rine wrote:

Can you really use FreeNX as you would Windows remote desktop? I just tried it recently and all it gave me wasa X Server and the possibility to open X apps. Basically the same as just cygwin with X Server. I couldn't figure out how to really see my desktop.

Well I don't know what you were doing wrong there but, yes, you can use it to log into your existing setup. It needs to be set up differently depending on whether you are using a login manager or not.

Ranguvar · 2009-03-23 11:19:39

I say forget about VNC, RDP, etc.... use SSH, and if you want GUI, use X11 forwarding with it. Every modern OS has an X server they can use for this. Windows has Xming.

schuay · 2009-03-23 11:51:21

Ranguvar wrote:

I say forget about VNC, RDP, etc.... use SSH, and if you want GUI, use X11 forwarding with it. Every modern OS has an X server they can use for this. Windows has Xming.

Unfortionately x11 forwarding is slow. Really slow. I haven't tried any linux alternatives (yet), but rdesktop is so much faster..

Ranguvar · 2009-03-23 15:14:17

schuay wrote:

Ranguvar wrote:
I say forget about VNC, RDP, etc.... use SSH, and if you want GUI, use X11 forwarding with it. Every modern OS has an X server they can use for this. Windows has Xming.
Unfortionately x11 forwarding is slow. Really slow. I haven't tried any linux alternatives (yet), but rdesktop is so much faster..

It is? Huh. Gotta try rdesktop then....

schuay · 2009-03-23 15:32:03

Yeah .. I do alot of work using rdesktop, and it's almost indistinguishable to working locally.

X11 forwarding (over the net) on the other hand takes ages/freezes from time to time even while displaying simple windows like pidgin or sylpheed.. Maybe I'm doing something wrong? But from my experiences, I prefer rdesktop.

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evilgold · 2009-03-23 16:27:14

I use XDMCP for remote desktop sometimes. I dont know how well it compares to VNC or RDP, but it works for my purposes. Although i rarely need or want X access if im accessing a machine remotely these days.

Mur · 2009-03-23 16:34:04

Is there any good install guides for rdesktop? I cannot find one.

XDMCP is not a cross platform.

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rine · 2009-03-23 22:31:25

sand_man wrote:

rine wrote:
Can you really use FreeNX as you would Windows remote desktop? I just tried it recently and all it gave me wasa X Server and the possibility to open X apps. Basically the same as just cygwin with X Server. I couldn't figure out how to really see my desktop.
Well I don't know what you were doing wrong there but, yes, you can use it to log into your existing setup. It needs to be set up differently depending on whether you are using a login manager or not.

Guess I'll have to try it again. I'm not using a login manager, just exec awesome in .xinitrc.

Ranguvar wrote:

I say forget about VNC, RDP, etc.... use SSH, and if you want GUI, use X11 forwarding with it. Every modern OS has an X server they can use for this. Windows has Xming.

Well I'm a sysadmin managing two offices in two different buildings. I want to be able to use my desktop from any station as I left it, with websites opened in firefox, lotus notes, some ssh sessions to servers and what not. Of course I could use Xming, Cygwin or so, but then I'll have to start all the applications again.

sand_man · 2009-03-23 22:38:45

I also use rdesktop daily at work and it is also a excellent piece of software but I thought we were talking about Linux remote desktop not Windows RDP.

Ranguvar · 2009-03-24 00:34:35

In other words, you want GNU Screen for the GUI
*wonders about session saving in some DEs, could that be extended so that you can move the session to another PC?*

Mur · 2009-03-24 17:53:55

In conclusion to what i wanted to find out, i figured out that you can view a unix connection with FreeNX using NoMachine NX windows viewer

FreeNX -> http://freenx.berlios.de/
FreeNX Wiki -> http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/FreeNX
NoManchine's Windows viewer -> http://www.nomachine.com/download-packa … rod_Id=601

The NX protocol makes a new connection to your computer so its like logging on with a new user but it is really fast with no lag as i see so far. If you have an existing SSH setup the setup is really simple.

schuay · 2009-03-24 20:15:47

this is not 100% on topic, but i tried freenx today and i couldn't get it to work with my setup..

i have a working ssh setup which only allows logons by my user with a rsa key + passphrase. i haven't found a way to get nxclient to log on using the rsa key - so understandably i get the following message on logon attempts

NX> 203 NXSSH running with pid: 5911
NX> 285 Enabling check on switch command
NX> 285 Enabling skip of SSH config files
NX> 285 Setting the preferred NX options
NX> 200 Connected to address: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx on port: 22
NX> 202 Authenticating user: nx
NX> 208 Using auth method: publickey
NX> 204 Authentication failed.

has anybody been able to get this sort of configuration working?

sand_man · 2009-03-24 21:36:03

Try regenerating the keys.

rine · 2009-03-24 23:05:04

schuay wrote:

this is not 100% on topic, but i tried freenx today and i couldn't get it to work with my setup..
i have a working ssh setup which only allows logons by my user with a rsa key + passphrase. i haven't found a way to get nxclient to log on using the rsa key - so understandably i get the following message on logon attempts
NX> 203 NXSSH running with pid: 5911
NX> 285 Enabling check on switch command
NX> 285 Enabling skip of SSH config files
NX> 285 Setting the preferred NX options
NX> 200 Connected to address: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx on port: 22
NX> 202 Authenticating user: nx
NX> 208 Using auth method: publickey
NX> 204 Authentication failed.
has anybody been able to get this sort of configuration working?

I think I had a similar problem. Something with my /etc/hosts.allow was wrong. sshd: ALL doesn't include localhost or something like that. Sorry, can't really remember it.

Mur · 2009-03-25 00:26:47

my problem with it is that it opens a new window instead of using the same one again

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